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    Garth Watkins
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    Has anyone ever experienced this, or know of anyone who has. A person whom I work with, had one last week. He was in an arcade playing an MX sim with a buddy when he started getting the siezure , convulsing and afterwards, blacked out. Gave himself a black eye in the process. He going for an MRI scan today just to be on the safe side.

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      Has anyone ever experienced this, or know of anyone who has. A person whom I work with, had one last week. He was in an arcade playing an MX sim with a buddy when he started getting the siezure , convulsing and afterwards, blacked out. Gave himself a black eye in the process. He going for an MRI scan today just to be on the safe side.

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      A man walking before when we came out of the cinema after the Matrix did this. Just fell over and started shaking. You can't do much about it, be sure the victim lies comfortable and doesn't bang his/her head. (you failed there didn't you ;) ) If it's severe I thought you had to put a pil beneath the tongue. No hurries, no worries.

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        A man walking before when we came out of the cinema after the Matrix did this. Just fell over and started shaking. You can't do much about it, be sure the victim lies comfortable and doesn't bang his/her head. (you failed there didn't you ;) ) If it's severe I thought you had to put a pil beneath the tongue. No hurries, no worries.

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        Colin Angus Mackay
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        This http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seizure[^] makes no mention of putting a pill under the tounge. In fact, based on what it does say that you should do I would guess that putting a pill under the tounge is probably the very last thing you want to do as it could obstruct the airway.


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          Has anyone ever experienced this, or know of anyone who has. A person whom I work with, had one last week. He was in an arcade playing an MX sim with a buddy when he started getting the siezure , convulsing and afterwards, blacked out. Gave himself a black eye in the process. He going for an MRI scan today just to be on the safe side.

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          Garth J Lancaster
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          in a former life I was one of the medical profession - it's generally accepted that some seizures can be stimulated by light modulation, sometimes in people who are 'borderline epileptics' - the seizure is basically a petite mal (or in worst cases, grand mal) epileptic fit from the point of view of the brain activity as measured through an eeg ... a well known one for triggering such seizures is disco strobes, and you guessed it, video games .. an MRI may or may not show much, but a referral to and checkout by a decent neurologist/neurosurgeon would be an idea ... .. it may come down to 'avoidance' as the best treatment, since the stimuli for the attack is known and repeatable - filtering sunglasses may help, drugs would be the last choice for a 'known' stimulus like this it could also be the case that a particular set of circumstances had to collide in your friend, tiredness, the video-game, possibly alcohol, and it may never happen again hopefully your friend has a good support network who will look after him, some of this stuff can be scary 'G'

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            A man walking before when we came out of the cinema after the Matrix did this. Just fell over and started shaking. You can't do much about it, be sure the victim lies comfortable and doesn't bang his/her head. (you failed there didn't you ;) ) If it's severe I thought you had to put a pil beneath the tongue. No hurries, no worries.

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            Garth J Lancaster
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            as per what Colin said - if a person has a seizure you dont put your hands in/near their mouths for anything - its a good way to lose a finger or two and the victim wont be at fault since they have no control as you indicate by V. wrote: be sure the victim lies comfortable and doesn't bang his/her head you remove any obstacle they can hurt themselves on or manouver them away from danger and reassure them when they come around - if its really bad they may need to placed on their side and their head/neck supported, to keep their airway open 'G'

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              This http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seizure[^] makes no mention of putting a pill under the tounge. In fact, based on what it does say that you should do I would guess that putting a pill under the tounge is probably the very last thing you want to do as it could obstruct the airway.


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              seems I thought wrong then. Could be that it used be you had to do that, but again I am not sure, seems logical you don't :-D. No hurries, no worries.

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                in a former life I was one of the medical profession - it's generally accepted that some seizures can be stimulated by light modulation, sometimes in people who are 'borderline epileptics' - the seizure is basically a petite mal (or in worst cases, grand mal) epileptic fit from the point of view of the brain activity as measured through an eeg ... a well known one for triggering such seizures is disco strobes, and you guessed it, video games .. an MRI may or may not show much, but a referral to and checkout by a decent neurologist/neurosurgeon would be an idea ... .. it may come down to 'avoidance' as the best treatment, since the stimuli for the attack is known and repeatable - filtering sunglasses may help, drugs would be the last choice for a 'known' stimulus like this it could also be the case that a particular set of circumstances had to collide in your friend, tiredness, the video-game, possibly alcohol, and it may never happen again hopefully your friend has a good support network who will look after him, some of this stuff can be scary 'G'

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                Ahh! The candy sweet for epilespy... Carbamazepine... oh how I love the stuff :sigh: (Just look it up you'll love the comments) I am fine with computers, thank god... otherwise would have a hard time doing my job!... I just find stress and tiredness really brings mine on. Well did now it appears to be undercontrol... which is nice. And only 1 month before I can drive again! :-D Then 2yrs until I can think about drinking again... Alcohol + Carbamazpine = X| (if not death)

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                  seems I thought wrong then. Could be that it used be you had to do that, but again I am not sure, seems logical you don't :-D. No hurries, no worries.

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                  I think you are referring to when someone has a heart condition, they put a nitro-glycerine tablet under their tongue. With a seizure, you're not supposed to do anything, just move objects out of the way so they don't hurt themselves. Regards, Brigg Thorp Senior Software Engineer Timex Corporation

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                    I think you are referring to when someone has a heart condition, they put a nitro-glycerine tablet under their tongue. With a seizure, you're not supposed to do anything, just move objects out of the way so they don't hurt themselves. Regards, Brigg Thorp Senior Software Engineer Timex Corporation

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                    Now you say I do think I was mistaken (it has been 10 years since my last course :|) But nitro-glycerine? Are you sure?? :laugh: No hurries, no worries.

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                      Has anyone ever experienced this, or know of anyone who has. A person whom I work with, had one last week. He was in an arcade playing an MX sim with a buddy when he started getting the siezure , convulsing and afterwards, blacked out. Gave himself a black eye in the process. He going for an MRI scan today just to be on the safe side.

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                      My mother's boyfriend is an epileptic, too. (Is that the right noun?!) He gets one, max two seizures in 2 months. He did not have any until his former wife, his father and his twin brother all died in one week (independently, the deaths were not related to each other). Losing 75% of his family in 5 days obviously sent him over the edge. I thought life sucked when my grandmother died and my stepfather died 6 months later, but HE must have gone through hell, literally. Immediately after the last death he started with 3 seizures in 2 hours, then had around 2 seizures a day for several months and when he met my mother (18 months after "death week") he still had a seizure once per week. He obviously is recovering now, after he met my mother. He almost made my mother leave him, since he did not tell her about his condition (he was afraid she would leave him) and was not in the condition to take a phone-call for hours after each seizure. My mother tried to call him several times and no-one would answer the call. Then, the next day, he would come back and pretend that no-one had left him a call on his answering machine. My mother was about to break up when he had a seizure while at our house, which forced him to talk about it. Since my mother is a teacher, I am a volunteer firefighter and my sister is a "geriatric nurse" ("Altenpflegerin", in German), we all know what to do in the case of an epileptic seizure. Additionally, this has never been any problem to us. That, again, got his seizure count down by 50% somehow. What I want to say is: An epileptic seizure is nothing to be ashamed of, let alone a reason to discriminate against people. They cannot help it and mobbing them (and shame on everyone who does!!!) might even cause harder and more dangerous seizures. Oh, my mother's boyfriend was employed by a large German telecommunication company, which fired him after he had this condition. They later agreed on a respectable settlement, as they would have lost every trial. Cheers Sid

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                        A man walking before when we came out of the cinema after the Matrix did this. Just fell over and started shaking. You can't do much about it, be sure the victim lies comfortable and doesn't bang his/her head. (you failed there didn't you ;) ) If it's severe I thought you had to put a pil beneath the tongue. No hurries, no worries.

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                        V. wrote: pil beneath the tongue I think you are thinking of heart attack, and the nitroglycerin pill. Top 10 Geek Resulutions: 5. To decipher what that big room is, which has the blue ceiling and poor climate control.

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                          Now you say I do think I was mistaken (it has been 10 years since my last course :|) But nitro-glycerine? Are you sure?? :laugh: No hurries, no worries.

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                          Yes, nitro-clycerine. Pretty amazing, huh?

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                            Now you say I do think I was mistaken (it has been 10 years since my last course :|) But nitro-glycerine? Are you sure?? :laugh: No hurries, no worries.

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                            Don't mess with my knowledge man! I was a corpsman (medic) in the military. ;P Some information on Ng can be found here[^] Brigg Thorp Senior Software Engineer Timex Corporation

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                              My mother's boyfriend is an epileptic, too. (Is that the right noun?!) He gets one, max two seizures in 2 months. He did not have any until his former wife, his father and his twin brother all died in one week (independently, the deaths were not related to each other). Losing 75% of his family in 5 days obviously sent him over the edge. I thought life sucked when my grandmother died and my stepfather died 6 months later, but HE must have gone through hell, literally. Immediately after the last death he started with 3 seizures in 2 hours, then had around 2 seizures a day for several months and when he met my mother (18 months after "death week") he still had a seizure once per week. He obviously is recovering now, after he met my mother. He almost made my mother leave him, since he did not tell her about his condition (he was afraid she would leave him) and was not in the condition to take a phone-call for hours after each seizure. My mother tried to call him several times and no-one would answer the call. Then, the next day, he would come back and pretend that no-one had left him a call on his answering machine. My mother was about to break up when he had a seizure while at our house, which forced him to talk about it. Since my mother is a teacher, I am a volunteer firefighter and my sister is a "geriatric nurse" ("Altenpflegerin", in German), we all know what to do in the case of an epileptic seizure. Additionally, this has never been any problem to us. That, again, got his seizure count down by 50% somehow. What I want to say is: An epileptic seizure is nothing to be ashamed of, let alone a reason to discriminate against people. They cannot help it and mobbing them (and shame on everyone who does!!!) might even cause harder and more dangerous seizures. Oh, my mother's boyfriend was employed by a large German telecommunication company, which fired him after he had this condition. They later agreed on a respectable settlement, as they would have lost every trial. Cheers Sid

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                              Garth J Lancaster
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                              sebs2004 wrote: An epileptic seizure is nothing to be ashamed of, let alone a reason to discriminate against people. They cannot help it and mobbing them (and shame on everyone who does!!!) might even cause harder and more dangerous seizures. good point ... hopefully there will always be one sensible person around to tell the mob to rack off and go about their business !! 'G'

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                                Has anyone ever experienced this, or know of anyone who has. A person whom I work with, had one last week. He was in an arcade playing an MX sim with a buddy when he started getting the siezure , convulsing and afterwards, blacked out. Gave himself a black eye in the process. He going for an MRI scan today just to be on the safe side.

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                                mgama
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                                Nope. But I've always wondered about it as you see warnings on video games about it. A couple weeks ago, while driving down a tree lined country road, the was sun shining through the empty tree branches causing an amazing amount of flashing as the sun repeatedly became obstructed by the tree branches in random intervals. This got me wondering if anyone has received photosensitive seizures while driving. Very dangerous!

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                                  Don't mess with my knowledge man! I was a corpsman (medic) in the military. ;P Some information on Ng can be found here[^] Brigg Thorp Senior Software Engineer Timex Corporation

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                                  Well, we learn every day :-D. No hurries, no worries.

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