"Most Stable OS ever": Lie, or mistaken?
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The sample program that someone posted wasn't a stress problem, it was an actual bug in the OS. I ran the program in the debugger and it crashes the OS the second time it executes the print. Really stupid bug. [slaps MS around some] Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.
Actually I played with it today and it appears to crash the first time, and what happens is if you have some tabs, and then an equal number of backspaces (\t\t\b\b) then the second \b also deletes all the text before it, and a third \b will kill the OS, I'm guessing by stepping back too far. It's the combination of \t and ]b, just printing 'test\b\b\b\b\b' won't crash it, but add a \t before the \b's and you're toast. I never meant to imply it wasn't a bug in the OS, only that the existence of such a bug does not make the whole OS unstable. Christian After all, there's nothing wrong with an elite as long as I'm allowed to be part of it!! - Mike Burston Oct 23, 2001
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Wow. Lots of apologists, no calls for accountability. Yes, clearly the bug is in the driver, in the first case. The second case is a simple, legitimate test though. But the bottom line is that this "most stable OS ever" still crashes, and crashes with a great big boom. Engineers are funny at times - as long as we understand why things go wrong, we are sometimes forgiving of that; forgetting that the average user does not give a damn about reasons. It's possible to crash Windows 2K. It's easy to crash Windows 2K. Windows 2K can crash out of the box. And why do I continue to point the finger at MS, even for the video driver? Because they continue to make development harder, more complex, and more reliant on their fragile "component" philosophy. Device driver developers have had to contend with a multitude of different driver models over the past few years. With product life cycles measured in months, a new driver model to contend with every few years.. no wonder bugs happen. Time to get back to work..
Wow. Lots of apologists, no calls for accountability. No Jim, it isn't about being an apologist or not calling for MS to be accountable, it is about living in the real world. 1. Operating systems (all) have bugs. 2. Microsoft will fix the problem. So get off your stupid MS is evil high horse and get a clue about what the computer world is really all about. God, I am getting sick of all this crap. Just more mindless junk coming from people who have no real clue. Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.
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>> A catchy signature should appear here. > > Hey, let us know when you've thought of one...or failing that ask John for ideas. I'm sure he'll > have a couple of suggestions... I already provide plenty of quotable material. He just has to scan back through the lounge or the rant/rave forum and pick the one he likes. :) To hell with those thin-skinned pillow-biters. - Me, 10/03/2001
My current favorite is: The reason I asked is because I want to make sure I target the more correct description of your mental deficiency before I start making fun of it.
