Programming competition
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There was a computer programming competition in China last week. http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2005/Apr/1131800.htm[^] Score: http://icpc.baylor.edu/icpc/finals/Standings.html[^] I went to Waterloo, which came in fourth and was the only I can confirm that there are some very smart people there. It is also ethnicly diverse, with lots of immigrants from Asia there. Maybe Asia's star is starting to rise and we will have to start learning mandarin. Also MIT came in at 29th. I guess that those Bostoners aren't that smart after all.
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There was a computer programming competition in China last week. http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2005/Apr/1131800.htm[^] Score: http://icpc.baylor.edu/icpc/finals/Standings.html[^] I went to Waterloo, which came in fourth and was the only I can confirm that there are some very smart people there. It is also ethnicly diverse, with lots of immigrants from Asia there. Maybe Asia's star is starting to rise and we will have to start learning mandarin. Also MIT came in at 29th. I guess that those Bostoners aren't that smart after all.
There is a post about ACM's competition in this forum, already: http://www.codeproject.com/lounge.asp?forumid=1159&fr=351&select=1080144#xx1080144xx[^] Most people there complained about a decadence of technical skills in North America, based in the rankings. I do not agree with them. These rankings don't mean that much when you see them alone. http://www.codeproject.com/lounge.asp?forumid=1159&fr=376&select=1080506#xx1080506xx[^] But anyone which went to those finals deserves a lot of respect. This competition is the real thing. It is in ACM's contests where you see the big difference between mere code-typers and those which bend the iron. Rui A. Rebelo Computers are useless, they can only provide answers. Pablo Picasso
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There was a computer programming competition in China last week. http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2005/Apr/1131800.htm[^] Score: http://icpc.baylor.edu/icpc/finals/Standings.html[^] I went to Waterloo, which came in fourth and was the only I can confirm that there are some very smart people there. It is also ethnicly diverse, with lots of immigrants from Asia there. Maybe Asia's star is starting to rise and we will have to start learning mandarin. Also MIT came in at 29th. I guess that those Bostoners aren't that smart after all.
JWood wrote: There was a computer programming competition in China last week. It just dawned on me, why they don't make this something that is done over the Internet, rather than in one physical location. And "competition" should mean being able to access reference material, etc. The way you'd do things in the real world. (I always hated memorizing stupid formulas). Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO
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JWood wrote: There was a computer programming competition in China last week. It just dawned on me, why they don't make this something that is done over the Internet, rather than in one physical location. And "competition" should mean being able to access reference material, etc. The way you'd do things in the real world. (I always hated memorizing stupid formulas). Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO
topcoder.com[^] is such a site.
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There was a computer programming competition in China last week. http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2005/Apr/1131800.htm[^] Score: http://icpc.baylor.edu/icpc/finals/Standings.html[^] I went to Waterloo, which came in fourth and was the only I can confirm that there are some very smart people there. It is also ethnicly diverse, with lots of immigrants from Asia there. Maybe Asia's star is starting to rise and we will have to start learning mandarin. Also MIT came in at 29th. I guess that those Bostoners aren't that smart after all.
Never competed in any of the ACM competitions since my interest in computers began after I left school. However, for the IMO (a math variant for high schoolers) and related competitions it was definitely the real deal. Waterloo does have some talented individuals. I think Derek Kisman went there who is a top competitor on http://www.topcoder.com/tc[^] known as SnapDragon. A lot of the people I used to compete with in math competitions do quite well there. Congratulations on the 4th place finish. Where you a member of the team? Regards, Daniel Wilson
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JWood wrote: There was a computer programming competition in China last week. It just dawned on me, why they don't make this something that is done over the Internet, rather than in one physical location. And "competition" should mean being able to access reference material, etc. The way you'd do things in the real world. (I always hated memorizing stupid formulas). Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO
Marc Clifton wrote: It just dawned on me, why they don't make this something that is done over the Internet, rather than in one physical location. And "competition" should mean being able to access reference material, etc. The way you'd do things in the real world. (I always hated memorizing stupid formulas). It is a competition only for university students. Therefore the rules are more alike what you would do in an university exam. But you have a point in the second argument. They already allow to carry printed material and are considering to allow to have 100k of references. Rui A. Rebelo Computers are useless, they can only provide answers. Pablo Picasso
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Marc Clifton wrote: It just dawned on me, why they don't make this something that is done over the Internet, rather than in one physical location. And "competition" should mean being able to access reference material, etc. The way you'd do things in the real world. (I always hated memorizing stupid formulas). It is a competition only for university students. Therefore the rules are more alike what you would do in an university exam. But you have a point in the second argument. They already allow to carry printed material and are considering to allow to have 100k of references. Rui A. Rebelo Computers are useless, they can only provide answers. Pablo Picasso
Rui A. Rebelo wrote: They already allow to carry printed material and are considering to allow to have 100k of references. :) Compressed? I love these "limitations". I wonder who invents them. I wonder how they come up with these numbers. Actually, I don't care. I'm soooo glad I ditched college. Waste of time. :) Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO
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There is a post about ACM's competition in this forum, already: http://www.codeproject.com/lounge.asp?forumid=1159&fr=351&select=1080144#xx1080144xx[^] Most people there complained about a decadence of technical skills in North America, based in the rankings. I do not agree with them. These rankings don't mean that much when you see them alone. http://www.codeproject.com/lounge.asp?forumid=1159&fr=376&select=1080506#xx1080506xx[^] But anyone which went to those finals deserves a lot of respect. This competition is the real thing. It is in ACM's contests where you see the big difference between mere code-typers and those which bend the iron. Rui A. Rebelo Computers are useless, they can only provide answers. Pablo Picasso
Yeh - I had the feeling that it was old news. But it was interesting enough to risk that. My impression is that North Americans sort of depend on a lot of code reuse and building with highly abstracted code calls, which really bites them when they are forced to go back to solve the more fundamental problems. In one way this is good as we reinvent the wheel less, but in addition, we also lose a strong understanding of the subject.
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Rui A. Rebelo wrote: They already allow to carry printed material and are considering to allow to have 100k of references. :) Compressed? I love these "limitations". I wonder who invents them. I wonder how they come up with these numbers. Actually, I don't care. I'm soooo glad I ditched college. Waste of time. :) Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO
Marc Clifton wrote: I'm soooo glad I ditched college. Waste of time. Innncoooominng!!!!
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