I must be missing something...
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In this posting[^], Linus Torvalds, having found out he can't use BitKeeper any more, says "I'll write my own kernel source tracking tool because I can't use the best any more." Errr... ... why is he writing another one? :doh:
Because the developer of BitKeeper is turning it into a commercial offering. http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2005/04/06/torvalds_bitkeeper/
[Cheshire] I can't afford those plastic things to cover the electric sockets so I just draw bunny faces on the electric outlets to scare the kids away from them... [RLtim] Newsflash! Kids aren't afraid of bunnies. [Cheshire] Oh they will be... -Bash.org
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Because the developer of BitKeeper is turning it into a commercial offering. http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2005/04/06/torvalds_bitkeeper/
[Cheshire] I can't afford those plastic things to cover the electric sockets so I just draw bunny faces on the electric outlets to scare the kids away from them... [RLtim] Newsflash! Kids aren't afraid of bunnies. [Cheshire] Oh they will be... -Bash.org
I get why he's moving away from BitKeeper. What I don't get is why he's writing another one. There aren't any existing open-source SCM tools out there? :confused:
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I get why he's moving away from BitKeeper. What I don't get is why he's writing another one. There aren't any existing open-source SCM tools out there? :confused:
Graham Bradshaw wrote: There aren't any existing open-source SCM tools out there? Not that work like BitKeeper. This isn't your traditional SCM user here, this is sort of a pyramid, with a huge base of developers submitting patches, and a small number of Linuses accepting them and merging them into the source.
Shog9
I'm not the Jack of Diamonds... I'm not the six of spades. I don't know what you thought; I'm not your astronaut...
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In this posting[^], Linus Torvalds, having found out he can't use BitKeeper any more, says "I'll write my own kernel source tracking tool because I can't use the best any more." Errr... ... why is he writing another one? :doh:
Graham Bradshaw wrote: I'll write my own kernel source tracking tool because I can't use the best any more The real implication is that whatever Linus writes will be second rate, since the title of "best" has already been taken, according to him. Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO
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Graham Bradshaw wrote: There aren't any existing open-source SCM tools out there? Not that work like BitKeeper. This isn't your traditional SCM user here, this is sort of a pyramid, with a huge base of developers submitting patches, and a small number of Linuses accepting them and merging them into the source.
Shog9
I'm not the Jack of Diamonds... I'm not the six of spades. I don't know what you thought; I'm not your astronaut...
Ah, I see. Thanks for the link. There's some interesting stuff in there, especially the conclusion: From the link In conclusion: Bitkeeper is wrong for free software because it encourages a development model with bad results. Developers would be better off managing their projects in a centralized manner with multiple committers. So, if there's no tool anywhere that supports the way you think development should be done, you could a) just write your own b) think about just *why* there's no tool I suspect that text might be a bit old, given the dates of the references at the bottom. Also, is there only one Linux kernel now? Do RedHat, Novell et al simply wait for Linus to do his stuff? I can't believe they do.
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Ah, I see. Thanks for the link. There's some interesting stuff in there, especially the conclusion: From the link In conclusion: Bitkeeper is wrong for free software because it encourages a development model with bad results. Developers would be better off managing their projects in a centralized manner with multiple committers. So, if there's no tool anywhere that supports the way you think development should be done, you could a) just write your own b) think about just *why* there's no tool I suspect that text might be a bit old, given the dates of the references at the bottom. Also, is there only one Linux kernel now? Do RedHat, Novell et al simply wait for Linus to do his stuff? I can't believe they do.
Also, is there only one Linux kernel now? Do RedHat, Novell et al simply wait for Linus to do his stuff? I can't believe they do. I believe they do. The versions of the Linux kernel that they put in their distros are often older, more stable, versions that Linus has released. But the newer stuff goes into future releases. Or, for the more adventurous, more massochistic soul, you can always download the newer kernels and compile it yourself. ;)
[Cheshire] I can't afford those plastic things to cover the electric sockets so I just draw bunny faces on the electric outlets to scare the kids away from them... [RLtim] Newsflash! Kids aren't afraid of bunnies. [Cheshire] Oh they will be... -Bash.org
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Graham Bradshaw wrote: I'll write my own kernel source tracking tool because I can't use the best any more The real implication is that whatever Linus writes will be second rate, since the title of "best" has already been taken, according to him. Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO
Marc Clifton wrote: The real implication is that whatever Linus writes will be second rate, since the title of "best" has already been taken, according to him. Fits in beautifully with the linux kernel...
Ryan
"Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"
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Graham Bradshaw wrote: There aren't any existing open-source SCM tools out there? Not that work like BitKeeper. This isn't your traditional SCM user here, this is sort of a pyramid, with a huge base of developers submitting patches, and a small number of Linuses accepting them and merging them into the source.
Shog9
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Shog9 wrote: Linuses :laugh: regards, Paul Watson South Africa PMW Photography Gary Wheeler wrote: It's people like you that keep me heading for my big debut on CNN...
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Ah, I see. Thanks for the link. There's some interesting stuff in there, especially the conclusion: From the link In conclusion: Bitkeeper is wrong for free software because it encourages a development model with bad results. Developers would be better off managing their projects in a centralized manner with multiple committers. So, if there's no tool anywhere that supports the way you think development should be done, you could a) just write your own b) think about just *why* there's no tool I suspect that text might be a bit old, given the dates of the references at the bottom. Also, is there only one Linux kernel now? Do RedHat, Novell et al simply wait for Linus to do his stuff? I can't believe they do.
Graham Bradshaw wrote: Also, is there only one Linux kernel now? Do RedHat, Novell et al simply wait for Linus to do his stuff? I can't believe they do. Distribution kernels are made by adding various patches to the baseline ("vanilla") kernel provided by Linus. Depending on the distro policy, they might be either pushing ahead or trailing behind of the baseline kernel development.
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Also, is there only one Linux kernel now? Do RedHat, Novell et al simply wait for Linus to do his stuff? I can't believe they do. I believe they do. The versions of the Linux kernel that they put in their distros are often older, more stable, versions that Linus has released. But the newer stuff goes into future releases. Or, for the more adventurous, more massochistic soul, you can always download the newer kernels and compile it yourself. ;)
[Cheshire] I can't afford those plastic things to cover the electric sockets so I just draw bunny faces on the electric outlets to scare the kids away from them... [RLtim] Newsflash! Kids aren't afraid of bunnies. [Cheshire] Oh they will be... -Bash.org
So, I'm Paying $2499 per server, per year[^], and the kernel of my OS is dependent on one guy, who isn't even on the payroll! :omg:
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Marc Clifton wrote: The real implication is that whatever Linus writes will be second rate, since the title of "best" has already been taken, according to him. Fits in beautifully with the linux kernel...
Ryan
"Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"
"Fits in beautifully with the linux kernel..." - by implication, you think that the windows kernel therefore is "better" ? care to even start to justify that?
using System.Beer;
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"Fits in beautifully with the linux kernel..." - by implication, you think that the windows kernel therefore is "better" ? care to even start to justify that?
using System.Beer;
Perhaps I should have put in the ";P" after all. I thought that people reading the message would have a sense of humour. How silly of me.
Ryan
"Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"
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So, I'm Paying $2499 per server, per year[^], and the kernel of my OS is dependent on one guy, who isn't even on the payroll! :omg: