CPU Overheat
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Hi guys, I have a computer, a clone for 2 years and half and I didn’t have any problem with it. It is an Intel P4 2.4 G with 512 M. Around 5 months ago I start to have a problem with the CPU that is overheating. The idle temperature is around 50 degree C. And if I start to do something like to compile a library, or to copy a big folder it will go up very fast. In around 25 second the temperature is over 70 degree C. I changed the power supply with a new 450W, I installed case fans and nothing is changed. The memory temperature is ok. After that, I contacted INTEL and they said that I have to prove that the CPU is the problem and not the motherboard. Did anybody of you have this problem? Did you have any success to replace the CPU, if it was in the warranty? Florian Szoke
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Hi guys, I have a computer, a clone for 2 years and half and I didn’t have any problem with it. It is an Intel P4 2.4 G with 512 M. Around 5 months ago I start to have a problem with the CPU that is overheating. The idle temperature is around 50 degree C. And if I start to do something like to compile a library, or to copy a big folder it will go up very fast. In around 25 second the temperature is over 70 degree C. I changed the power supply with a new 450W, I installed case fans and nothing is changed. The memory temperature is ok. After that, I contacted INTEL and they said that I have to prove that the CPU is the problem and not the motherboard. Did anybody of you have this problem? Did you have any success to replace the CPU, if it was in the warranty? Florian Szoke
Does the CPU have a fan and heat sink? If no, then I'd install one that is recommended for the chip and board. If yes, then I'd remove them and try cleaning the fins on the heat sink. They are probably filled with dust. Likewise with the fan. I do this twice a year whenever the switch from savings time to standard time occurs. :) Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] Remember that in Texas, Gun Control is hitting what you aim at. [Richard Stringer] Nice sig! [Tim Deveaux on Matt Newman's sig with a quote from me]
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Hi guys, I have a computer, a clone for 2 years and half and I didn’t have any problem with it. It is an Intel P4 2.4 G with 512 M. Around 5 months ago I start to have a problem with the CPU that is overheating. The idle temperature is around 50 degree C. And if I start to do something like to compile a library, or to copy a big folder it will go up very fast. In around 25 second the temperature is over 70 degree C. I changed the power supply with a new 450W, I installed case fans and nothing is changed. The memory temperature is ok. After that, I contacted INTEL and they said that I have to prove that the CPU is the problem and not the motherboard. Did anybody of you have this problem? Did you have any success to replace the CPU, if it was in the warranty? Florian Szoke
Did you check the thermal paste? I saw this behavior in a couple of machines that did not have thermal paste applied. I see dead pixels Yes, even I am blogging now!
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Hi guys, I have a computer, a clone for 2 years and half and I didn’t have any problem with it. It is an Intel P4 2.4 G with 512 M. Around 5 months ago I start to have a problem with the CPU that is overheating. The idle temperature is around 50 degree C. And if I start to do something like to compile a library, or to copy a big folder it will go up very fast. In around 25 second the temperature is over 70 degree C. I changed the power supply with a new 450W, I installed case fans and nothing is changed. The memory temperature is ok. After that, I contacted INTEL and they said that I have to prove that the CPU is the problem and not the motherboard. Did anybody of you have this problem? Did you have any success to replace the CPU, if it was in the warranty? Florian Szoke
Florian Szoke wrote: In around 25 second the temperature is over 70 degree C My 3Ghz P4 currently runs at an idle temp of around that.
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Does the CPU have a fan and heat sink? If no, then I'd install one that is recommended for the chip and board. If yes, then I'd remove them and try cleaning the fins on the heat sink. They are probably filled with dust. Likewise with the fan. I do this twice a year whenever the switch from savings time to standard time occurs. :) Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] Remember that in Texas, Gun Control is hitting what you aim at. [Richard Stringer] Nice sig! [Tim Deveaux on Matt Newman's sig with a quote from me]
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Florian Szoke wrote: In around 25 second the temperature is over 70 degree C My 3Ghz P4 currently runs at an idle temp of around that.
George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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Hi guys, I have a computer, a clone for 2 years and half and I didn’t have any problem with it. It is an Intel P4 2.4 G with 512 M. Around 5 months ago I start to have a problem with the CPU that is overheating. The idle temperature is around 50 degree C. And if I start to do something like to compile a library, or to copy a big folder it will go up very fast. In around 25 second the temperature is over 70 degree C. I changed the power supply with a new 450W, I installed case fans and nothing is changed. The memory temperature is ok. After that, I contacted INTEL and they said that I have to prove that the CPU is the problem and not the motherboard. Did anybody of you have this problem? Did you have any success to replace the CPU, if it was in the warranty? Florian Szoke
The thermal paste on the chip/heatsink connection may have dried up a little bit. The CPU fan might be going bad as well, but you can usually hear it when that happens. My last guess would be defect (not fault) within the chip itself that has gotten worse over time, but that would be a bit harder to prove I bet. Peace! -=- James
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Hi guys, I have a computer, a clone for 2 years and half and I didn’t have any problem with it. It is an Intel P4 2.4 G with 512 M. Around 5 months ago I start to have a problem with the CPU that is overheating. The idle temperature is around 50 degree C. And if I start to do something like to compile a library, or to copy a big folder it will go up very fast. In around 25 second the temperature is over 70 degree C. I changed the power supply with a new 450W, I installed case fans and nothing is changed. The memory temperature is ok. After that, I contacted INTEL and they said that I have to prove that the CPU is the problem and not the motherboard. Did anybody of you have this problem? Did you have any success to replace the CPU, if it was in the warranty? Florian Szoke
Florian Szoke wrote: Did anybody of you have this problem? Did you have any success to replace the CPU, if it was in the warranty? Yes, unfortunately, we have the spare parts to do the proper tests, most home users do not. The only way to prove it is the CPU, is by either replacing everything else, or putting in a new CPU in the same hardware and compare results. The former will still be argued by Intel as not proof "enough" though getting irate can speed the process some. The latter is the only real proof, but then you have already bought another CPU and have no need for the other.... Which generally leaves only a multi-computer shop able to prove to Intel's satisfaction that a CPU can ever be bad. And even then it is difficult. It took months of fighting with Intel with similar tests to prove the I840 motherboards were bad. Eventually we just replaced them with upgraded units for our customers. How much proof required is relative to how much effort to keep you from getting a unit. I agree with others, you can replace the thermal past, clean the heatsink, replace the fan, etc. But even if you do, Intel may not accept that as proof. We make a habit of never using the stock coolers, we always use Overclocking rated coolers, without overclocking they keep the temperature nice and low. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Florian Szoke wrote: In around 25 second the temperature is over 70 degree C My 3Ghz P4 currently runs at an idle temp of around that.
George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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Sounds like you have no such thing as load (clock will throttle around that temperature) ;) or your temp sensor is slightly wrong. FYI I have an Athlon 64 which is a much more comfortable 40° at load...
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Yes I have fan and heat sink for the CPU. And the fan speed it looking good. I will try to clean the heat sink. Thanks Florian Szoke
Do not remove the heatsink unless you have some fresh thermal paste. It is never good to reapply a heatsink without completly removing the thermal compound and applying a thin layer of new compound. John
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Florian Szoke wrote: In around 25 second the temperature is over 70 degree C My 3Ghz P4 currently runs at an idle temp of around that.
George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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Dude.. 70C is a lot. You should seriously have a look at your CPU/Heat sink/fan. -- Schni Schna Schnappi! Schnappi Schnappi Schnapp!
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Florian Szoke wrote: In around 25 second the temperature is over 70 degree C My 3Ghz P4 currently runs at an idle temp of around that.
George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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30C should be about average for idle and maybe up to 45-50C under a heavy load. 70C is way, way too high for a P4 3.0.
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30C should be about average for idle and maybe up to 45-50C under a heavy load. 70C is way, way too high for a P4 3.0.
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No P4 CPU on the planet will run at 30C with air cooling, especially with a stock heatsink. Motherboard heat sensors are notorious for being so far off the mark that it's laughable. You should always use an external sensor if you're want an accurate reading. ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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Hi guys, I have a computer, a clone for 2 years and half and I didn’t have any problem with it. It is an Intel P4 2.4 G with 512 M. Around 5 months ago I start to have a problem with the CPU that is overheating. The idle temperature is around 50 degree C. And if I start to do something like to compile a library, or to copy a big folder it will go up very fast. In around 25 second the temperature is over 70 degree C. I changed the power supply with a new 450W, I installed case fans and nothing is changed. The memory temperature is ok. After that, I contacted INTEL and they said that I have to prove that the CPU is the problem and not the motherboard. Did anybody of you have this problem? Did you have any success to replace the CPU, if it was in the warranty? Florian Szoke
- Get some new thermal compound (arctic silver is the best, but anything will do). Make sure you do NOT buy thermal "adhesive". 2) Remove your heatsink/fan assembly. 3) Clean off both the bottom of the heatsink and the top of the CPU. While you have it off the CPU, also blow out the fins and the fan (get as much dust out as you can). 4) Apply a thin, even layer of thermal compound to the cpu core (or heat spreader). 5) Re-install the heatsink/fan assembly. Take care to install it in the correct orientation. Turn on your machine and watch the temperature. ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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No P4 CPU on the planet will run at 30C with air cooling, especially with a stock heatsink. Motherboard heat sensors are notorious for being so far off the mark that it's laughable. You should always use an external sensor if you're want an accurate reading. ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
I use an external sensor monitored via a Coolermaster Aerogate III* and the P4 3.2 I'm using now is currently running at 31.5C (under moderate stress: WMP + VS.NET). That's about average given the PC has been on for 18 hours today. When it gets to 35C the fans kick in. I don't think it's been above 40C since I bought it. * the CPU sensor is 'glued' onto to the side of the solid copper part of the heatsink with the aid of some Artic Silver 4 compond. I don't remember the name of the heatsink - it was one of those Zalman ones for 478 processors that doesn't have a fan attached (shaped like a chinese fan with a 15mm solid block at the base). I think where you situate your computer has a lot of effect on how well it dissipates heat. This one is on a concrete floor at 4am in the morning so it is very, very cold. The case is completely aluminium and is cold to the touch and the air blowing from the PSU fan is barely lukewarm. The front fans did start up about twenty minutes ago, and are currently on, but for the GPU which is running at 39.5C and must have topped 40C for them to come on). (I don't have a fan on the graphics card anymore either, I modified the Radeon 9700 Pro to use one of those wrap-around Zalman graphics card heatsinks, so that runs at a little higher than it should.) A similar setup with a P4 3.2 running as a server in the computer room averages 40-45C, though thanks to that Folding@Home app it is constantly 50% CPU or more. Unfortunately through bad design that room traps a lot of heat from the sun and has poor air circulation meaning that the same aluminium cases get hot to touch and instead of dissipating heat act like an oven (to the point a couple of times where the heat has built up so much the machine needed to be shut down to recover). That one has topped 70C in the past before the safety shutdown kicked in. :(
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