Does you company pay you for travelling time ?
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Sparked by a similar thread. Anyone got any thoughts about the following ? The international company I work for pays some people for travelling and some people not. We have a rule where if you get a salary above a certain amount, you don't get paid overtime, below it you do get paid. This means that if you have to travel, some people can claim the travelling time as overtime and others can't. eg. I dont' get overtime, my co-worker does (there is about 5% difference in our salaries). The other year we were both sent from the UK to europe for 3 weeks, he could claim some of this time as overtime as we were travelling between countires. Last year I got sent to the USA for a week and got nothing extra for this. This year I went to the USA for another week and again got nothing extra even though when there I worked a 67 hour week. My question is, is this normal or do I just work for a company which likes to treat it's staff like slaves ? Users. Can't live with 'em, can't kill em!
My company pays food, accommodation, bus/taxi fares etc. They will pay up to AU$45/day for food, plus whatever travel fares are necessary. We don't get overtime for travelling. It is written into our contract that travel is part of the job.
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Sparked by a similar thread. Anyone got any thoughts about the following ? The international company I work for pays some people for travelling and some people not. We have a rule where if you get a salary above a certain amount, you don't get paid overtime, below it you do get paid. This means that if you have to travel, some people can claim the travelling time as overtime and others can't. eg. I dont' get overtime, my co-worker does (there is about 5% difference in our salaries). The other year we were both sent from the UK to europe for 3 weeks, he could claim some of this time as overtime as we were travelling between countires. Last year I got sent to the USA for a week and got nothing extra for this. This year I went to the USA for another week and again got nothing extra even though when there I worked a 67 hour week. My question is, is this normal or do I just work for a company which likes to treat it's staff like slaves ? Users. Can't live with 'em, can't kill em!
I'm allowed to claim time off in liew of time spent tavelling outside normal working hours, although in practice I rarely do. I can also claim £5 for each night spent away from home for some reason, but no overtime.
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I would not expect the company to pay overtime if the time sitting on a plane was during normal working hours. If we fly to the USA, we fly out on Sunday so that we can start work Monday in the US, shouldn't the company pay any extra for the employee having to spend a day of their own time travelling. Users. Can't live with 'em, can't kill em!
I see what you mean, especially if you have a family. I think it then comes down to your position in the company. If you are in a managerial position then no, overtime never applies. If you are a grunt in the trenches then some compensation is in order. I often flew weekends, even public holidays, but was never compensated as we were a small company. regards, Paul Watson South Africa PMW Photography Gary Wheeler wrote: It's people like you that keep me heading for my big debut on CNN...
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Sparked by a similar thread. Anyone got any thoughts about the following ? The international company I work for pays some people for travelling and some people not. We have a rule where if you get a salary above a certain amount, you don't get paid overtime, below it you do get paid. This means that if you have to travel, some people can claim the travelling time as overtime and others can't. eg. I dont' get overtime, my co-worker does (there is about 5% difference in our salaries). The other year we were both sent from the UK to europe for 3 weeks, he could claim some of this time as overtime as we were travelling between countires. Last year I got sent to the USA for a week and got nothing extra for this. This year I went to the USA for another week and again got nothing extra even though when there I worked a 67 hour week. My question is, is this normal or do I just work for a company which likes to treat it's staff like slaves ? Users. Can't live with 'em, can't kill em!
I went on business trip twice, and the company "paid" us for the travel time since it was on week-end. They paid for the usual expenses, but extra were to our charges.
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Sparked by a similar thread. Anyone got any thoughts about the following ? The international company I work for pays some people for travelling and some people not. We have a rule where if you get a salary above a certain amount, you don't get paid overtime, below it you do get paid. This means that if you have to travel, some people can claim the travelling time as overtime and others can't. eg. I dont' get overtime, my co-worker does (there is about 5% difference in our salaries). The other year we were both sent from the UK to europe for 3 weeks, he could claim some of this time as overtime as we were travelling between countires. Last year I got sent to the USA for a week and got nothing extra for this. This year I went to the USA for another week and again got nothing extra even though when there I worked a 67 hour week. My question is, is this normal or do I just work for a company which likes to treat it's staff like slaves ? Users. Can't live with 'em, can't kill em!
The Dutch company i work for pay all travel expenses even for getting to and from work everyday. Its no use to me as I ride my push bike but for those who travel from other parts of The Netherlands it is very good. The flip side is we dont get any sick leave.
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Sparked by a similar thread. Anyone got any thoughts about the following ? The international company I work for pays some people for travelling and some people not. We have a rule where if you get a salary above a certain amount, you don't get paid overtime, below it you do get paid. This means that if you have to travel, some people can claim the travelling time as overtime and others can't. eg. I dont' get overtime, my co-worker does (there is about 5% difference in our salaries). The other year we were both sent from the UK to europe for 3 weeks, he could claim some of this time as overtime as we were travelling between countires. Last year I got sent to the USA for a week and got nothing extra for this. This year I went to the USA for another week and again got nothing extra even though when there I worked a 67 hour week. My question is, is this normal or do I just work for a company which likes to treat it's staff like slaves ? Users. Can't live with 'em, can't kill em!
The company I used to work for paid all travel and accommodation expenses + a daily allowance for food. I wasn't paid overtime, but if I was travelling on a weekend or public holiday I still got the food-away-from-home allowance.
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Sparked by a similar thread. Anyone got any thoughts about the following ? The international company I work for pays some people for travelling and some people not. We have a rule where if you get a salary above a certain amount, you don't get paid overtime, below it you do get paid. This means that if you have to travel, some people can claim the travelling time as overtime and others can't. eg. I dont' get overtime, my co-worker does (there is about 5% difference in our salaries). The other year we were both sent from the UK to europe for 3 weeks, he could claim some of this time as overtime as we were travelling between countires. Last year I got sent to the USA for a week and got nothing extra for this. This year I went to the USA for another week and again got nothing extra even though when there I worked a 67 hour week. My question is, is this normal or do I just work for a company which likes to treat it's staff like slaves ? Users. Can't live with 'em, can't kill em!
As i replied to the other thread. We get Accomodation, meals & petrol (All goes on the company credit card) but nothing extra. mostly the travelling is done during work hours, sometimes i will travel back in the evening from where i am (normally about 200 - 300 miles and get home really late) then not go in the next day which should be a travel day. Boss doesn't know about this. Occasionally i have to travel on a Sunday and i dont get any extra or get the time back which is when i really get fed up as i was told the job was Monday to Friday 9 to 5. Jon
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Sparked by a similar thread. Anyone got any thoughts about the following ? The international company I work for pays some people for travelling and some people not. We have a rule where if you get a salary above a certain amount, you don't get paid overtime, below it you do get paid. This means that if you have to travel, some people can claim the travelling time as overtime and others can't. eg. I dont' get overtime, my co-worker does (there is about 5% difference in our salaries). The other year we were both sent from the UK to europe for 3 weeks, he could claim some of this time as overtime as we were travelling between countires. Last year I got sent to the USA for a week and got nothing extra for this. This year I went to the USA for another week and again got nothing extra even though when there I worked a 67 hour week. My question is, is this normal or do I just work for a company which likes to treat it's staff like slaves ? Users. Can't live with 'em, can't kill em!
I suspect its fairly normal. For example: in the UK employees are eligible to claim a tax free travelling allowance of 40p/mile for eligible business travel (which includes to/from work for contract staff). I suspect few companies allow employees to do the same. When they do, they may well offer a lower rate, or include the additional payment in PAYE so you'd pay unnecessary tax/NI on it. Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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Sparked by a similar thread. Anyone got any thoughts about the following ? The international company I work for pays some people for travelling and some people not. We have a rule where if you get a salary above a certain amount, you don't get paid overtime, below it you do get paid. This means that if you have to travel, some people can claim the travelling time as overtime and others can't. eg. I dont' get overtime, my co-worker does (there is about 5% difference in our salaries). The other year we were both sent from the UK to europe for 3 weeks, he could claim some of this time as overtime as we were travelling between countires. Last year I got sent to the USA for a week and got nothing extra for this. This year I went to the USA for another week and again got nothing extra even though when there I worked a 67 hour week. My question is, is this normal or do I just work for a company which likes to treat it's staff like slaves ? Users. Can't live with 'em, can't kill em!
I can charge travel time during a normal work week. I cannot charge overtime (during the week, or weekend) to travel. Thus if you want me to visit, plan on me travelling on Monday, visit T/W/Th, I come home Fri AM. ;) Also, I get a per-deim (daily stipend) depending on the city I am in. ~Nitron.
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I see what you mean, especially if you have a family. I think it then comes down to your position in the company. If you are in a managerial position then no, overtime never applies. If you are a grunt in the trenches then some compensation is in order. I often flew weekends, even public holidays, but was never compensated as we were a small company. regards, Paul Watson South Africa PMW Photography Gary Wheeler wrote: It's people like you that keep me heading for my big debut on CNN...
Funny enough Paul, here at FNB overtime applies to anyone under managerial job grades, as well as all IS personnel. They must have realised IS always works more overtime. His hands felt the grasp of strong white hairs, and he knew he would not survive this fungus.
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No, never heard of this happening. The company should pay travel expenses but I have never heard of a company paying overtime for the time you spend sitting in a plane. regards, Paul Watson South Africa PMW Photography Gary Wheeler wrote: It's people like you that keep me heading for my big debut on CNN...
What I have noticed in SA as the norm (meaning mainstream corporate and government) is to get paid an S&T (sustenance and travel) allowance, normally well in excess of both of those costs, but excluding any accommodation costs. His hands felt the grasp of strong white hairs, and he knew he would not survive this fungus.
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No, never heard of this happening. The company should pay travel expenses but I have never heard of a company paying overtime for the time you spend sitting in a plane. regards, Paul Watson South Africa PMW Photography Gary Wheeler wrote: It's people like you that keep me heading for my big debut on CNN...
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I can charge travel time during a normal work week. I cannot charge overtime (during the week, or weekend) to travel. Thus if you want me to visit, plan on me travelling on Monday, visit T/W/Th, I come home Fri AM. ;) Also, I get a per-deim (daily stipend) depending on the city I am in. ~Nitron.
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erhh.... what is it with that signature with arrows 'n' all.. ? Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert
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Sparked by a similar thread. Anyone got any thoughts about the following ? The international company I work for pays some people for travelling and some people not. We have a rule where if you get a salary above a certain amount, you don't get paid overtime, below it you do get paid. This means that if you have to travel, some people can claim the travelling time as overtime and others can't. eg. I dont' get overtime, my co-worker does (there is about 5% difference in our salaries). The other year we were both sent from the UK to europe for 3 weeks, he could claim some of this time as overtime as we were travelling between countires. Last year I got sent to the USA for a week and got nothing extra for this. This year I went to the USA for another week and again got nothing extra even though when there I worked a 67 hour week. My question is, is this normal or do I just work for a company which likes to treat it's staff like slaves ? Users. Can't live with 'em, can't kill em!
It depends on the situation, but at my company we get a per diem (in addition to regular salary and travel expenses) for being at a customer's site. It certainly makes dealing with difficult customers a little more bearable. :)
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Sparked by a similar thread. Anyone got any thoughts about the following ? The international company I work for pays some people for travelling and some people not. We have a rule where if you get a salary above a certain amount, you don't get paid overtime, below it you do get paid. This means that if you have to travel, some people can claim the travelling time as overtime and others can't. eg. I dont' get overtime, my co-worker does (there is about 5% difference in our salaries). The other year we were both sent from the UK to europe for 3 weeks, he could claim some of this time as overtime as we were travelling between countires. Last year I got sent to the USA for a week and got nothing extra for this. This year I went to the USA for another week and again got nothing extra even though when there I worked a 67 hour week. My question is, is this normal or do I just work for a company which likes to treat it's staff like slaves ? Users. Can't live with 'em, can't kill em!
Well... this is a tough one, I can say we used to get compensation for travel time, now it is only during normal hours. However, I annually go to Siggraph conference which starts on a Saturday (well, registration on Saturday if you want to attend the Sunday courses, which I do). So I am travelling Saturday without compensation, but I could actually charge hours for standing in line for registration and the class on Sunday. However, there is a few noteable problems.... Most people in my profession are paid directly out of tax payer money. This creates somewhat of a worry, taxpayers probably wouldn't appreciate paying for time sitting on the air-craft. On the otherhand, although I don't do the laptop-workaholic business anymore, you don't stop me from thinking. But the tax payer can't know that. They only see wasted time. In the past, there was compensation for travel time outside of normal work hours. I don't know where the answer lies. Part of it is in education of everyone on what it means. If all govt. contractors save money by not paying compensation for travel hours, their stock value increases against the overhead of other companies in 3D graphics which compensate their employees. Some contractors even have what is called "green time" or a "free" hour before every 3 overtime. So if you work for 4 hours past 40 hours a week, you get 40 regular 1 green, and 3 OT. This is the first hour, so if you work 41 hours, you get paid for 40. I know at least one contractor that requires 1 hour of "green" time a week wether you work more than 41 hours is up to you. This increases the value of a contractor on bid to government contracts (we don't do this yet, but others do), and lowers the cost per employee work hour across the company average, increasing the value of the company stock. Non government contractors then get the idea of doing similar operations to reduce cost per man-hour overhead while maintaining the same work, and increasing their stock value as well. I have worked as a truly "exempt" employee in the corporate work-force. I worked 92.5 hours in a week writing W2 magnetic media reporting over a single weekend -- I got paid my usual rate as if I worked 40 hours. Although here not all time is compensated in every way, if the government requires my presence and my work after hours, they are also required to compensate me for it. I think the good of that outweighs loosing a few hours travelling to one coast or another. I have been much worse off in my last job. edit: and OT hours for salaried is c