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Looking and seeing that civilization three has been released I'm tempted to buy a copy. (I'm in the UK at the moment, and it's not for sale here until the 16th I don't think, but it's been release in the US for the last weeek or so...) Don't really play many computer games any more; but I remember many a fond hour of playing the original civ. I bought Alpha Centuri when it came out, but was a bit disappointed. It was just too big (too many units, etc.) which wasn't good for my slowish machine and I think had lost some of the simplicity that the original civ had. I thought they had glossed it up with graphics, but not thinking about gameplay. Anyone had a chance to play civ3 yet? Thoughts? Have fun, Paul Westcott.
Gamespot has a really good review of CivIII. I was quite impressed with it as it goes in depth and makes even a non-turn based fan like me want to go out and get it. Here are the requirements: PII 300 or equivalent 32 MB RAM 4X CD-ROM SVGA 100 MB disk space DirectX v7.0 regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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Gamespot has a really good review of CivIII. I was quite impressed with it as it goes in depth and makes even a non-turn based fan like me want to go out and get it. Here are the requirements: PII 300 or equivalent 32 MB RAM 4X CD-ROM SVGA 100 MB disk space DirectX v7.0 regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
After reading this thread, I went ahead and looked on the Internet for more info about this game. I've heard a lot about the original version(s), but I've never seen it before. It sounded and looked very cool and I have stopped at the computer store on my way home last night to pick this game up. I've played for a few hours. Most of the time, of cause, I've spent learning how it works. Unfortunately, I was a little disappointed. It is not as cool as you might think after reading some of the reviews. UI is not very intuitive - it works, but they did not put too much thought into it. I guess the whole turn-based gameplay idea does not help much ether (this is my first experience with turn-based game like this). Also I've seen a lot of comments on amazon.com that the game is too complex. It did not look too complex to me - just a little awkward. So I will try to play it for a while and see if I get used to it, but my first impression is that it is way overrated. Just my $0.02.
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After reading this thread, I went ahead and looked on the Internet for more info about this game. I've heard a lot about the original version(s), but I've never seen it before. It sounded and looked very cool and I have stopped at the computer store on my way home last night to pick this game up. I've played for a few hours. Most of the time, of cause, I've spent learning how it works. Unfortunately, I was a little disappointed. It is not as cool as you might think after reading some of the reviews. UI is not very intuitive - it works, but they did not put too much thought into it. I guess the whole turn-based gameplay idea does not help much ether (this is my first experience with turn-based game like this). Also I've seen a lot of comments on amazon.com that the game is too complex. It did not look too complex to me - just a little awkward. So I will try to play it for a while and see if I get used to it, but my first impression is that it is way overrated. Just my $0.02.
Konstantin Vasserman wrote: UI is not very intuitive - it works, but they did not put too much thought into it. I guess you have to have played CivI and II. The game is complex and so the UI does the best it can. You cannot just jump in and play like Command & Conquer or Half Life. There is a ton of information that must be conveyed and I guess for Civ fans then the UI is just right as it is both familiar and improved. For newbies the answer is to stick with it. Konstantin Vasserman wrote: I guess the whole turn-based gameplay idea does not help much ether (this is my first experience with turn-based game like this). LOL no wonder... if you are used to and love RTS or FPS then naturally Civ won't be your cup of tea. It is slow, strategic no rush action. Konstantin Vasserman wrote: Also I've seen a lot of comments on amazon.com that the game is too complex You don't play Civ for an action packed, brainless few minutes. You play it for sleepless night after sleepless night figuring out strategies and conquering the Earth. Really CivIII is more of the same as found in CivI and II, only more refined and expanded. If it is your kind of game then you love it, otherwise you hate it. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
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After reading this thread, I went ahead and looked on the Internet for more info about this game. I've heard a lot about the original version(s), but I've never seen it before. It sounded and looked very cool and I have stopped at the computer store on my way home last night to pick this game up. I've played for a few hours. Most of the time, of cause, I've spent learning how it works. Unfortunately, I was a little disappointed. It is not as cool as you might think after reading some of the reviews. UI is not very intuitive - it works, but they did not put too much thought into it. I guess the whole turn-based gameplay idea does not help much ether (this is my first experience with turn-based game like this). Also I've seen a lot of comments on amazon.com that the game is too complex. It did not look too complex to me - just a little awkward. So I will try to play it for a while and see if I get used to it, but my first impression is that it is way overrated. Just my $0.02.
>I've played for a few hours. Most of the time, of cause, I've spent learning >how it works The Civ series is probably the best set of games ever done for the PC, but it does take more than a few hours play to appreciate how good it is, the learning curve can be pretty steep too, I've been playing since the original Civ game and I still haven't mastered it. If you keep at it you'll have some of the best gaming experiences of your life. Of course you'll also be playing till 3am in the morning because you'll find you always want one more turn. Michael :-)
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>I've played for a few hours. Most of the time, of cause, I've spent learning >how it works The Civ series is probably the best set of games ever done for the PC, but it does take more than a few hours play to appreciate how good it is, the learning curve can be pretty steep too, I've been playing since the original Civ game and I still haven't mastered it. If you keep at it you'll have some of the best gaming experiences of your life. Of course you'll also be playing till 3am in the morning because you'll find you always want one more turn. Michael :-)
Michael P Butler wrote: Of course you'll also be playing till 3am in the morning because you'll find you always want one more turn. Not getting any sleep is nothing new for me, so I guess I'll just keep trying to like it and see where it takes me. I liked this comment from one of the amazon.com civ3 reviewers: Hopefully this piece will be everything that Black and White wasn't. I'm cancelling all social occassions in November and scheduling carpal tunnel surgery for January. :)
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i got it last week. i've been playing pretty much non-stop since :) i still haven't won a round, the AI is good. i didn't like Alpha Centauri either, i forget exactly why. my quick review: it's a lot like CivII but with better graphics, better diplomacy, more complex units, better resource management, multiple ways to win, culture is cool - enemy cities will suddenly revolt and join your nation, if they like your culture better, etc.. i think it's a nice update - nothing is radically different, just good improvements throughout. -c
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Hi Chris, I'm a big AOE2 fan. Civ3 sounds very similar but on their website it says that it's turn-based. So much for the similarities. I used to play turn-based strategy games eons ago and they were fun. But when there are dozens of individual units to move it sucks to wait for each opponent(s) to move. I'm interested in what you have to say about this. I may just give this a try. It doesn't look like there's a demo version I can download, is there? Thanks, Alvaro
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Looking and seeing that civilization three has been released I'm tempted to buy a copy. (I'm in the UK at the moment, and it's not for sale here until the 16th I don't think, but it's been release in the US for the last weeek or so...) Don't really play many computer games any more; but I remember many a fond hour of playing the original civ. I bought Alpha Centuri when it came out, but was a bit disappointed. It was just too big (too many units, etc.) which wasn't good for my slowish machine and I think had lost some of the simplicity that the original civ had. I thought they had glossed it up with graphics, but not thinking about gameplay. Anyone had a chance to play civ3 yet? Thoughts? Have fun, Paul Westcott.
Paul Westcott wrote: Anyone had a chance to play civ3 yet? Thoughts? I have played all the civs and alpha centauri. I bought Civ3 the day it came out. This Civ is more like the first civ than any of the other sequels. Granted that it is much more complex than the original, it finally retains the flavor, the "civ feel" that kept me playing the original until the wee hours of the morning. It has been a long time since I have had a game that prompts the "I'll be there in a minute..." and then three hours later, "Oh, crap!" For those that have not played this type of game and are worried about its' complexity/learning curve. Civ3 does have a steep learning curve, but the designers specifically targeted newcomers to the game. The easiest difficulty level is a good introduction to the game, and the tutorial mode really helps with some of the more complex game concepts. I heartily recommend this game. My problem is that I have this game, the XBox arriving Thursday, and Neverwinter Nights coming out later this winter. I will have no time for anything else. -John
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i got it last week. i've been playing pretty much non-stop since :) i still haven't won a round, the AI is good. i didn't like Alpha Centauri either, i forget exactly why. my quick review: it's a lot like CivII but with better graphics, better diplomacy, more complex units, better resource management, multiple ways to win, culture is cool - enemy cities will suddenly revolt and join your nation, if they like your culture better, etc.. i think it's a nice update - nothing is radically different, just good improvements throughout. -c
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Chris Losinger wrote: i didn't like Alpha Centauri either I didn't like Alpha Centauri because I'm not a Sci-fi nut-ball. Those sciences and units and stuff in that game were just too "out there" for me. I couldn't relate. Maybe those Star Trek freaks who walk around dressed as Spock when it's not even Hallowe'en like it. Civ all the way for me. I can't wait to try Civ 3! :omg: Chris Losinger wrote: enemy cities will suddenly revolt and join your nation, if they like your culture better, What if they're controlled by the Taliban? ;P "Die and be damn’d; and figo for thy friendship!" -Pistol, King Henry V, Shakespeare
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Konstantin Vasserman wrote: UI is not very intuitive - it works, but they did not put too much thought into it. I guess you have to have played CivI and II. The game is complex and so the UI does the best it can. You cannot just jump in and play like Command & Conquer or Half Life. There is a ton of information that must be conveyed and I guess for Civ fans then the UI is just right as it is both familiar and improved. For newbies the answer is to stick with it. Konstantin Vasserman wrote: I guess the whole turn-based gameplay idea does not help much ether (this is my first experience with turn-based game like this). LOL no wonder... if you are used to and love RTS or FPS then naturally Civ won't be your cup of tea. It is slow, strategic no rush action. Konstantin Vasserman wrote: Also I've seen a lot of comments on amazon.com that the game is too complex You don't play Civ for an action packed, brainless few minutes. You play it for sleepless night after sleepless night figuring out strategies and conquering the Earth. Really CivIII is more of the same as found in CivI and II, only more refined and expanded. If it is your kind of game then you love it, otherwise you hate it. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
The question is not whether or not I like it(I know I'll like Civ3), it's whether or not my wife will like it. I find that when my wife likes a game I can get more time playing the game with her at my side watching, or playing the game with me( or, God forbid, kicking me off the computer so she can play), and less time with her telling me to "Get off the computer already. You've been playing that 'stupid' game all night." I always try to get my wife interested in my favorite games. It doesn't always work out that way though....:(( "Die and be damn’d; and figo for thy friendship!" -Pistol, King Henry V, Shakespeare
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Chris Losinger wrote: i didn't like Alpha Centauri either I didn't like Alpha Centauri because I'm not a Sci-fi nut-ball. Those sciences and units and stuff in that game were just too "out there" for me. I couldn't relate. Maybe those Star Trek freaks who walk around dressed as Spock when it's not even Hallowe'en like it. Civ all the way for me. I can't wait to try Civ 3! :omg: Chris Losinger wrote: enemy cities will suddenly revolt and join your nation, if they like your culture better, What if they're controlled by the Taliban? ;P "Die and be damn’d; and figo for thy friendship!" -Pistol, King Henry V, Shakespeare
Kevin Ranville wrote: What if they're controlled by the Taliban? then you enslave the men and let the women hold the whips. -c
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