For the naysayers...
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http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7609 But that's all probably propoganda too right? Or is it that these scientists are wrong as well? Maybe they should all go read that book too huh? X|
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http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7609 But that's all probably propoganda too right? Or is it that these scientists are wrong as well? Maybe they should all go read that book too huh? X|
I've come to the conclusion we are knackered. But I''m alright jack, not in my life time, though our children are screwed.
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http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7609 But that's all probably propoganda too right? Or is it that these scientists are wrong as well? Maybe they should all go read that book too huh? X|
A few comments: - This belongs in the soapbox - Your message title conveys no informaion about the subject matter. - Where is a link to the original work? - Was the original work published in a peer reviewed journal? -RANT_ON- It's this type of inflamatory crap passing as scientific reporting that's turned me off from the whole global warming debate. Dire warnings and proclamations of doom don't impress, well researched data published in peer reviewed journals does. I haven't seen any of the global climate simulations run regression analysis on known climatic data. Verify your models and show me the results, then I'll take them seriously. Krakatoa blew 1 cubic mile of dust into the upper atmosphere, along with unknown quantities of CO2 and SO2, dropping the global temperature 1.2C. http://www.drgeorgepc.com/Vocano1883Krakatoa.html[^] This didn't trigger an ice age or a great die off. Instead the weather returned to normal over the course of 5 or 10 years. Please explain why an island being blown off the map doesn't have any long term effects, while a very slight increase in the atmospheric CO2 concentration will lead to disaster (historic levels are 200-300 ppm, the current level is 350 ppm) http://www.cnie.org/pop/CO2/intro.htm[^] http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/trends/co2/vostok.htm[^] Yes, we may be entering a period of warming. Yes, their will be climatic change - there always is. That doesn't mean the world is coming to an end. -RANT OFF-
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A few comments: - This belongs in the soapbox - Your message title conveys no informaion about the subject matter. - Where is a link to the original work? - Was the original work published in a peer reviewed journal? -RANT_ON- It's this type of inflamatory crap passing as scientific reporting that's turned me off from the whole global warming debate. Dire warnings and proclamations of doom don't impress, well researched data published in peer reviewed journals does. I haven't seen any of the global climate simulations run regression analysis on known climatic data. Verify your models and show me the results, then I'll take them seriously. Krakatoa blew 1 cubic mile of dust into the upper atmosphere, along with unknown quantities of CO2 and SO2, dropping the global temperature 1.2C. http://www.drgeorgepc.com/Vocano1883Krakatoa.html[^] This didn't trigger an ice age or a great die off. Instead the weather returned to normal over the course of 5 or 10 years. Please explain why an island being blown off the map doesn't have any long term effects, while a very slight increase in the atmospheric CO2 concentration will lead to disaster (historic levels are 200-300 ppm, the current level is 350 ppm) http://www.cnie.org/pop/CO2/intro.htm[^] http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/trends/co2/vostok.htm[^] Yes, we may be entering a period of warming. Yes, their will be climatic change - there always is. That doesn't mean the world is coming to an end. -RANT OFF-
Im sorry. I thought New Scientist was a reputable publication. Obviously not nearly so informed as you. I googled for your name in the world's scientist lists but couldn't find you there. Maybe you should contact them because obviously you should be there being so brilliant and all. :laugh:
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http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7609 But that's all probably propoganda too right? Or is it that these scientists are wrong as well? Maybe they should all go read that book too huh? X|
Dude - everyone knows killer penguins will do away with us way before the seas fizz away. Sheesh. cheers, Chris Maunder
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Dude - everyone knows killer penguins will do away with us way before the seas fizz away. Sheesh. cheers, Chris Maunder
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Im sorry. I thought New Scientist was a reputable publication. Obviously not nearly so informed as you. I googled for your name in the world's scientist lists but couldn't find you there. Maybe you should contact them because obviously you should be there being so brilliant and all. :laugh:
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Im sorry. I thought New Scientist was a reputable publication. Obviously not nearly so informed as you. I googled for your name in the world's scientist lists but couldn't find you there. Maybe you should contact them because obviously you should be there being so brilliant and all. :laugh:
fakefur wrote: world's scientist lists And these are? Tell you what you will find if you google... You will find a wonderful report by about 18 PhD's, some of them with 2 or 3 per person, telling you that it is impossible to do exact geodetic (elipsoidal with geoidal offsets) in real-time for more than a few objects of interest. The US government gives them about one million a year just to travel and tell everyone that my software cannot exist. Luckily, a few smaller branches keep me around, the ones doing the work. Not everything you find on google is true, no matter how many PhD's are behind their name; many people are just trying to hold the status quo and have no interest in listening to any alternate concepts -- even ones that are proven to exist. Let alone alternative theories where no proof exists on either side. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Dude - everyone knows killer penguins will do away with us way before the seas fizz away. Sheesh. cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote: everyone knows killer penguins will do away with us way before the seas fizz away I'm working on an algorithm to visually detect the killer penguins from their friendlier counterparts. I've noted their eyes are closer together and they walk more like john wayne and less like charlie chaplin. Through repeated analysis and a new budget grant, I'll gladly help prevent the scurge of killer penguins. ;) they also seem to be easily distracted by VB, I don't know why.... _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7609 But that's all probably propoganda too right? Or is it that these scientists are wrong as well? Maybe they should all go read that book too huh? X|
I'm astounded that you'd bother with this again. For anyone who does not remember, this is a guy who finds the sources that suits him, and when people refer to any other equally credible source that does not match his 'voice in the wilderness' point of view, he calls them names. If CP had killfiles, he'd be in mine. Not because I disagree with his view, but because I disagree with his inability to challenge it ( or allow it to be challenged ), and to take part in rational discussion. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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I'm astounded that you'd bother with this again. For anyone who does not remember, this is a guy who finds the sources that suits him, and when people refer to any other equally credible source that does not match his 'voice in the wilderness' point of view, he calls them names. If CP had killfiles, he'd be in mine. Not because I disagree with his view, but because I disagree with his inability to challenge it ( or allow it to be challenged ), and to take part in rational discussion. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
And doesn't know how to make a proper link in his posts. Or too lazy to. Or too rude to. I'd bet on the latter. Absolute faith corrupts as absolutely as absolute power Eric Hoffer The opposite of the religious fanatic is not the fanatical atheist but the gentle cynic who cares not whether there is a god or not. Eric Hoffer
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Im sorry. I thought New Scientist was a reputable publication. Obviously not nearly so informed as you. I googled for your name in the world's scientist lists but couldn't find you there. Maybe you should contact them because obviously you should be there being so brilliant and all. :laugh:
You are one rude, stupid muthahF. Absolute faith corrupts as absolutely as absolute power Eric Hoffer The opposite of the religious fanatic is not the fanatical atheist but the gentle cynic who cares not whether there is a god or not. Eric Hoffer
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Dude - everyone knows killer penguins will do away with us way before the seas fizz away. Sheesh. cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote: killer penguins I'm secretely raising them in the basement... Don't tell the neighbors, and I'll see that they stay clear of your house when I release them.:suss: "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley
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Chris Maunder wrote: everyone knows killer penguins will do away with us way before the seas fizz away I'm working on an algorithm to visually detect the killer penguins from their friendlier counterparts. I've noted their eyes are closer together and they walk more like john wayne and less like charlie chaplin. Through repeated analysis and a new budget grant, I'll gladly help prevent the scurge of killer penguins. ;) they also seem to be easily distracted by VB, I don't know why.... _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Chris Maunder wrote: everyone knows killer penguins will do away with us way before the seas fizz away I'm working on an algorithm to visually detect the killer penguins from their friendlier counterparts. I've noted their eyes are closer together and they walk more like john wayne and less like charlie chaplin. Through repeated analysis and a new budget grant, I'll gladly help prevent the scurge of killer penguins. ;) they also seem to be easily distracted by VB, I don't know why.... _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote: their eyes are closer together and they walk more like john wayne and less like charlie chaplin I've been working on breeding those traits out of them, and have had some excellent results. Rev 6.2005.15 looks particularly good, with the Charlie Chaplin walk, the innocent-looking eyes, and the four-inch venomous fangs inside the tiny beak. I'm still feeding them fish, but in rev 6.2005.19 I'm planning to switch their diet to red meat - pork specifically. That should make them more human-selective, as we're known as "long pig" in cannibal societies. "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley
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A few comments: - This belongs in the soapbox - Your message title conveys no informaion about the subject matter. - Where is a link to the original work? - Was the original work published in a peer reviewed journal? -RANT_ON- It's this type of inflamatory crap passing as scientific reporting that's turned me off from the whole global warming debate. Dire warnings and proclamations of doom don't impress, well researched data published in peer reviewed journals does. I haven't seen any of the global climate simulations run regression analysis on known climatic data. Verify your models and show me the results, then I'll take them seriously. Krakatoa blew 1 cubic mile of dust into the upper atmosphere, along with unknown quantities of CO2 and SO2, dropping the global temperature 1.2C. http://www.drgeorgepc.com/Vocano1883Krakatoa.html[^] This didn't trigger an ice age or a great die off. Instead the weather returned to normal over the course of 5 or 10 years. Please explain why an island being blown off the map doesn't have any long term effects, while a very slight increase in the atmospheric CO2 concentration will lead to disaster (historic levels are 200-300 ppm, the current level is 350 ppm) http://www.cnie.org/pop/CO2/intro.htm[^] http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/trends/co2/vostok.htm[^] Yes, we may be entering a period of warming. Yes, their will be climatic change - there always is. That doesn't mean the world is coming to an end. -RANT OFF-
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Im sorry. I thought New Scientist was a reputable publication. Obviously not nearly so informed as you. I googled for your name in the world's scientist lists but couldn't find you there. Maybe you should contact them because obviously you should be there being so brilliant and all. :laugh:
Have you been a rude, name-calling idiot all your life, or is this a recent development? If the latter, I'm fairly sure that there's a 12-step program for people who suffer from whatever ailment you've acquired. If the former, you provide a strong argument in favor of post-natal abortion. Thank you. Casting aspersions on the beliefs of others by providing carefully selected, poorly supported references, then making personal attacks on those who disagree rather than providing logical, reasoned responses, is the mark of an ignorant imbecile. There is no excuse for such behavior among professionals, though I'm painfully aware that such exchanges occur all the time. We are a community of professionals, and if you can't participate in an appropriate manner, you are cordially invited to find another venue for your childish responses. We welcome reasoned discourse, and even have a forum devoted to such endeavors - It's called the Soapbox. But even there, such infantile responses are not respected, as is entirely proper and appropriate. Go away - shoo, shoo... Find a sandbox where you'll fit in; live long and prosper in your very limited way... We'd appreciate it if you don't reproduce, but that's a lot to hope for; your kind usually does.:mad: "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley
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Dude - everyone knows killer penguins will do away with us way before the seas fizz away. Sheesh. cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote: Dude - everyone knows killer penguins will do away with us way before the seas fizz away. Sheesh Except in Wales, where carnivorous sheep are apparently set to return. :~ Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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Im sorry. I thought New Scientist was a reputable publication. Obviously not nearly so informed as you. I googled for your name in the world's scientist lists but couldn't find you there. Maybe you should contact them because obviously you should be there being so brilliant and all. :laugh:
fakefur wrote: I googled for your name in the world's scientist lists No you didn't.
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