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    Radoslav Bielik
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    Hi everyone, I desperately need help with my notebook - I've installed the Net Traffic Monitor[^] as I'll be using GPRS connection on my notebook while travelling where I have limited traffic. Right after installing, it shows a constant traffic (occassional download of few bytes) even when no additional programs are running, I've also disabled LiveUpdate in norton antivirus. It consumes about 1MB of traffic in 2 minutes, and sometimes it is constantly downloading at 20-30kB/s for some 20 seconds or more (I'm currently connected using WiFi). The NetTrafficMonitor only shows port usage, so I can only see that 96% of all traffic is port 80 - HTTP. Does anyone have any idea on what could it be? Or is there any tool that would show me which programs are currently using the network? Something like the process list in the task manager, but showing network usage of the processes... Does anyone have any experience with this network monitor? Thanks for any clues in advance! Rado PS: The notebook is brand new (WinXP home, used just to browse the net) so there shouldn't be any adware/spyware or anything. The only thing I've installed on it is OpenOffice, MS ActiveSync and the Net Traffic Monitor.


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      Hi everyone, I desperately need help with my notebook - I've installed the Net Traffic Monitor[^] as I'll be using GPRS connection on my notebook while travelling where I have limited traffic. Right after installing, it shows a constant traffic (occassional download of few bytes) even when no additional programs are running, I've also disabled LiveUpdate in norton antivirus. It consumes about 1MB of traffic in 2 minutes, and sometimes it is constantly downloading at 20-30kB/s for some 20 seconds or more (I'm currently connected using WiFi). The NetTrafficMonitor only shows port usage, so I can only see that 96% of all traffic is port 80 - HTTP. Does anyone have any idea on what could it be? Or is there any tool that would show me which programs are currently using the network? Something like the process list in the task manager, but showing network usage of the processes... Does anyone have any experience with this network monitor? Thanks for any clues in advance! Rado PS: The notebook is brand new (WinXP home, used just to browse the net) so there shouldn't be any adware/spyware or anything. The only thing I've installed on it is OpenOffice, MS ActiveSync and the Net Traffic Monitor.


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      Igor Vigdorchik
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      ZoneAlarm warns that a particular program is trying to access the net and blocks it.

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        ZoneAlarm warns that a particular program is trying to access the net and blocks it.

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        Radoslav Bielik
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        Thanks for reminding me of this nice little tool! I'm downloading it right away to try it out.


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          Hi everyone, I desperately need help with my notebook - I've installed the Net Traffic Monitor[^] as I'll be using GPRS connection on my notebook while travelling where I have limited traffic. Right after installing, it shows a constant traffic (occassional download of few bytes) even when no additional programs are running, I've also disabled LiveUpdate in norton antivirus. It consumes about 1MB of traffic in 2 minutes, and sometimes it is constantly downloading at 20-30kB/s for some 20 seconds or more (I'm currently connected using WiFi). The NetTrafficMonitor only shows port usage, so I can only see that 96% of all traffic is port 80 - HTTP. Does anyone have any idea on what could it be? Or is there any tool that would show me which programs are currently using the network? Something like the process list in the task manager, but showing network usage of the processes... Does anyone have any experience with this network monitor? Thanks for any clues in advance! Rado PS: The notebook is brand new (WinXP home, used just to browse the net) so there shouldn't be any adware/spyware or anything. The only thing I've installed on it is OpenOffice, MS ActiveSync and the Net Traffic Monitor.


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          I've downloaded this nice tool (15-day trial): X-NetStat Pro[^] At first, it didn't show anything but (i've just seen the activity but didn't see any process in its list) but after restarting the connection it showed me the svchost.exe process connecting to 208.175.188.61 port 80. Google revealed that it is probably one of the Windows Update servers. I'm not sure what it was trying to download, as it didn't tell me anything, but I have changed the setting from "Download automatically at 3AM" to "Notify me but don't automatically download the updates", I'll yet have to see if it helps, but I didn't see any network activity since changing this. So hopefully it was that. ...Still, I'd be very interested what it has been trying to download, 30MB in a few minutes... not good for my GPRS plan. :) [UPDATE] Aaaargh, it didn't help, it's back again. :sigh: It started to download something this morning and while I was in the kitchen it has already downloaded 90MB. X| What the hell could it be? The X-NetStat only shows network activity but no process with such traffic. What did HP preinstall on this notebook that is doing this??? Or is it the NetTrafficMonitor itself? No clue. :(( [/UPDATE] [UPDATE #2] Now it seems that whichever network monitoring program I launch it will start to generate this traffic. Perhaps it is something internal and not generating any real traffic? When I open the wireless network connection status, which shows the packets sent/received, the numbers do not change. However, when I start Net Traffic Meter, or X-NetStat, or SoftPerfect Traffic Meter, the number of packets received will be continuosly increasing, about 20 packets per second. Nons of them except for the first one will count this into its data amount. :confused::~ [/UPDATE #2]


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            ZoneAlarm warns that a particular program is trying to access the net and blocks it.

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            It XP SP2 not doing this? I use the Norton Personal Security with a similar feature, is ZoneAlarm better and why? Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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              It XP SP2 not doing this? I use the Norton Personal Security with a similar feature, is ZoneAlarm better and why? Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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              Paul Selormey wrote: It XP SP2 not doing this? I use the Norton Personal Security with a similar feature, is ZoneAlarm better and why? I haven't used ZoneAlarm for quite some time, but I think that the major difference was that the ZoneAlarm was also careful about the outgoing traffic, i.e. it would warn when applications you did not approve before would try to send data or open ports for listening. As far as I know, the WinXP SP2 firewall only blocks incoming traffic, and I *think* that it also checks for applications which open ports and act as a server, but does not block outgoing traffic. I'm not familiar with Norton Personal Security, but I guess it will be more advanced than XP SP2 firewall, probably more similar to ZoneAlarm. But remember that I'm not absolutely sure about anything I just said. :) It's just how I think it works. ;)


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                It XP SP2 not doing this? I use the Norton Personal Security with a similar feature, is ZoneAlarm better and why? Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                As far as I know XP's firewall does not block/filter the outcoming traffic. Re Norton v. ZoneAlarm I can't say anything since I never used the Norton. I use ZoneAlarm for 3-4 years already (on the personal computer), never had any problems, it does a very good job and it's free. With respect, Igor.

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                  I've downloaded this nice tool (15-day trial): X-NetStat Pro[^] At first, it didn't show anything but (i've just seen the activity but didn't see any process in its list) but after restarting the connection it showed me the svchost.exe process connecting to 208.175.188.61 port 80. Google revealed that it is probably one of the Windows Update servers. I'm not sure what it was trying to download, as it didn't tell me anything, but I have changed the setting from "Download automatically at 3AM" to "Notify me but don't automatically download the updates", I'll yet have to see if it helps, but I didn't see any network activity since changing this. So hopefully it was that. ...Still, I'd be very interested what it has been trying to download, 30MB in a few minutes... not good for my GPRS plan. :) [UPDATE] Aaaargh, it didn't help, it's back again. :sigh: It started to download something this morning and while I was in the kitchen it has already downloaded 90MB. X| What the hell could it be? The X-NetStat only shows network activity but no process with such traffic. What did HP preinstall on this notebook that is doing this??? Or is it the NetTrafficMonitor itself? No clue. :(( [/UPDATE] [UPDATE #2] Now it seems that whichever network monitoring program I launch it will start to generate this traffic. Perhaps it is something internal and not generating any real traffic? When I open the wireless network connection status, which shows the packets sent/received, the numbers do not change. However, when I start Net Traffic Meter, or X-NetStat, or SoftPerfect Traffic Meter, the number of packets received will be continuosly increasing, about 20 packets per second. Nons of them except for the first one will count this into its data amount. :confused::~ [/UPDATE #2]


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                  I have seen this too! I think its XP's auto update 'feature'. xacc-ide 0.0.15 now with C#, MSIL, C, XML, ASP.NET, Nemerle, MyXaml and HLSL coloring - Screenshots

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                    I have seen this too! I think its XP's auto update 'feature'. xacc-ide 0.0.15 now with C#, MSIL, C, XML, ASP.NET, Nemerle, MyXaml and HLSL coloring - Screenshots

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                    Windows Update is one thing, it really did transfer some data on the background but rather small amounts (tens to hundreds of kilobytes). Seems it's actually some local loop traffic between the network drivers and the traffic meter utility, at least according to the developer, so that no data should be downloaded from the net. In the other tool I have tried (I think the one from SoftPerfect), when I switched the adapter mode from "Promiscuous" to "Owner all" it stopped. The NET Traffic Meter developer said that the problem should be resolved in the next versions. Fortunately, it doesn't occur when monitoring the dial-up GPRS connection, I need it only for that, since with GPRS I must watch for every kilobyte. :)


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                      Hi everyone, I desperately need help with my notebook - I've installed the Net Traffic Monitor[^] as I'll be using GPRS connection on my notebook while travelling where I have limited traffic. Right after installing, it shows a constant traffic (occassional download of few bytes) even when no additional programs are running, I've also disabled LiveUpdate in norton antivirus. It consumes about 1MB of traffic in 2 minutes, and sometimes it is constantly downloading at 20-30kB/s for some 20 seconds or more (I'm currently connected using WiFi). The NetTrafficMonitor only shows port usage, so I can only see that 96% of all traffic is port 80 - HTTP. Does anyone have any idea on what could it be? Or is there any tool that would show me which programs are currently using the network? Something like the process list in the task manager, but showing network usage of the processes... Does anyone have any experience with this network monitor? Thanks for any clues in advance! Rado PS: The notebook is brand new (WinXP home, used just to browse the net) so there shouldn't be any adware/spyware or anything. The only thing I've installed on it is OpenOffice, MS ActiveSync and the Net Traffic Monitor.


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                      If it ever happens again this is pretty much all you'll need to see what's going on. http://www.diamondcs.com.au/portexplorer/[^]

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