We know who the traitor is...
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I suspect he will be "accountable" just in the same way Rumsfeld was in the Abu Ghraib case: find some Joe Smith to blame.
Diego Moita wrote: find some Joe Smith to blame Joe Smith? You mean, the park's handyman, where I live? Who'd have guessed? :rolleyes: yes, his name really is Joe Smith! Marc My website
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Diego Moita wrote: find some Joe Smith to blame Joe Smith? You mean, the park's handyman, where I live? Who'd have guessed? :rolleyes: yes, his name really is Joe Smith! Marc My website
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I suspect he will be "accountable" just in the same way Rumsfeld was in the Abu Ghraib case: find some Joe Smith to blame.
Diego Moita wrote: just in the same way Rumsfeld was in the Abu Ghraib case Wasn't he given a medal? Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me
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Karl Rove outed Valerie Plame: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8525978/site/newsweek/[^] ... even more good stuff here: http://www.rawstory.org/[^] Of course, most intelligent Americans knew this already, it just took a few years for the wheels of justice to grind this far. Just as we also knew that the trumped-up "war on terror" would result in more terrorism, not less: http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/LondonFreePress/News/2005/07/10/1124818-sun.html[^] I'm not even gonna mention WMDs... well, I guess I just did.
Jim, Forget the WMD's ... the one's who vouched on that are now seen as clowns all over the world ... Politics is not an easy profession and hence quite well paid too ... but the perks are what really count in that occupation ... the power etc. ... everyone does a little for themselves and their families ... the trick is to COVER it up so that the whole country is not ridiculed ... that is where the WMD's boomeranged and will be ridiculed in history books FOREVER ... Now what Clinton did was not good either but atleast there were no unnecessary deaths of 20 year olds in a FAKE war in Iraq. Getting to the War on Terror in Iraq ... how do we measure success out there? ... I mean what is it that we want ? ...
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Karl Rove outed Valerie Plame: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8525978/site/newsweek/[^] ... even more good stuff here: http://www.rawstory.org/[^] Of course, most intelligent Americans knew this already, it just took a few years for the wheels of justice to grind this far. Just as we also knew that the trumped-up "war on terror" would result in more terrorism, not less: http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/LondonFreePress/News/2005/07/10/1124818-sun.html[^] I'm not even gonna mention WMDs... well, I guess I just did.
it'll be a treat to see just how finely all those self-proclaimed patriots can parse the applicable laws and how delicately they can finesse the ethical issues as they try to defend Karl and his boss - and they will. to double the fun, every time they open their mouths, apply The Hillary Test: would they parse, mince, duck and weave as carefully to prove the accused's innocence if Hillary Clinton was accused of outing a CIA agent who was working on national security matters, just to try to discredit the agent's husband ? of course we all know the answer, but it'll be a delight to see them prove it over and over again. dance, my pretties. dance! Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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Diego Moita wrote: just in the same way Rumsfeld was in the Abu Ghraib case Wasn't he given a medal? Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me
I gotta admit man. You have style. :omg:
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it'll be a treat to see just how finely all those self-proclaimed patriots can parse the applicable laws and how delicately they can finesse the ethical issues as they try to defend Karl and his boss - and they will. to double the fun, every time they open their mouths, apply The Hillary Test: would they parse, mince, duck and weave as carefully to prove the accused's innocence if Hillary Clinton was accused of outing a CIA agent who was working on national security matters, just to try to discredit the agent's husband ? of course we all know the answer, but it'll be a delight to see them prove it over and over again. dance, my pretties. dance! Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
Here's a response you can predict from at least one CP regular: (can you guess who?) Rove is a right-wing capitalist like me. He's no Marxist. This means that it doesn't matter how dirty, corrupt, unethical, or sinister he is. He's got my full support. The left is simply trying to bring him down because he's a conservative. :sigh: Alvaro
Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is. -- GWB, 1999.
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Here's a response you can predict from at least one CP regular: (can you guess who?) Rove is a right-wing capitalist like me. He's no Marxist. This means that it doesn't matter how dirty, corrupt, unethical, or sinister he is. He's got my full support. The left is simply trying to bring him down because he's a conservative. :sigh: Alvaro
Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is. -- GWB, 1999.
It isn't difficult, is it? :rolleyes: Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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Here's a response you can predict from at least one CP regular: (can you guess who?) Rove is a right-wing capitalist like me. He's no Marxist. This means that it doesn't matter how dirty, corrupt, unethical, or sinister he is. He's got my full support. The left is simply trying to bring him down because he's a conservative. :sigh: Alvaro
Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is. -- GWB, 1999.
gee... i wonder who that could be... a perfect example - Party before Country. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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it'll be a treat to see just how finely all those self-proclaimed patriots can parse the applicable laws and how delicately they can finesse the ethical issues as they try to defend Karl and his boss - and they will. to double the fun, every time they open their mouths, apply The Hillary Test: would they parse, mince, duck and weave as carefully to prove the accused's innocence if Hillary Clinton was accused of outing a CIA agent who was working on national security matters, just to try to discredit the agent's husband ? of course we all know the answer, but it'll be a delight to see them prove it over and over again. dance, my pretties. dance! Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
Chris Losinger wrote: dance, my pretties. dance! I've already started seeing a few articles and quotes here and there (though nothing from the white house) although avoiding the issue of the crime, commending him for not "lying" in his past statements. Karl Rove always said "I never revealed her 'name' to the press." As his statements now show, when he revealed her to the press, he referred to her as "the wife of ..." therefore he never said her "name." That dance is awfully familiar and suprisingly similar to the side they make fun of. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Chris Losinger wrote: dance, my pretties. dance! I've already started seeing a few articles and quotes here and there (though nothing from the white house) although avoiding the issue of the crime, commending him for not "lying" in his past statements. Karl Rove always said "I never revealed her 'name' to the press." As his statements now show, when he revealed her to the press, he referred to her as "the wife of ..." therefore he never said her "name." That dance is awfully familiar and suprisingly similar to the side they make fun of. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote: "I never revealed her 'name' to the press." If he had (or did) that would be illegal. Otherwise it is a debate of intent of the law versus the actual law. But fear not, once we can properly define, "IS" we'll get on to the weightier things. Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me
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it'll be a treat to see just how finely all those self-proclaimed patriots can parse the applicable laws and how delicately they can finesse the ethical issues as they try to defend Karl and his boss - and they will. to double the fun, every time they open their mouths, apply The Hillary Test: would they parse, mince, duck and weave as carefully to prove the accused's innocence if Hillary Clinton was accused of outing a CIA agent who was working on national security matters, just to try to discredit the agent's husband ? of course we all know the answer, but it'll be a delight to see them prove it over and over again. dance, my pretties. dance! Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
Chris Losinger wrote: The Hillary Test: would they parse, mince, duck and weave as carefully to prove the accused's innocence if Hillary Clinton was accused of outing a CIA agent who was working on national security matters, just to try to discredit the agent's husband ? There is only one set of rules and both side use the same set. But you knew that. Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me
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Chris Losinger wrote: The Hillary Test: would they parse, mince, duck and weave as carefully to prove the accused's innocence if Hillary Clinton was accused of outing a CIA agent who was working on national security matters, just to try to discredit the agent's husband ? There is only one set of rules and both side use the same set. But you knew that. Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me
what, no defense of Rove? come on man, don't let me down. Mike Gaskey wrote: There is only one set of rules and both side use the same set. But you knew that. i'll bookmark this one, too. :) Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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Jeffry J. Brickley wrote: "I never revealed her 'name' to the press." If he had (or did) that would be illegal. Otherwise it is a debate of intent of the law versus the actual law. But fear not, once we can properly define, "IS" we'll get on to the weightier things. Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me
Mike Gaskey wrote: Otherwise it is a debate of intent of the law versus the actual law ah... that's the stuff. Mike Gaskey wrote: But fear not, once we can properly define, "IS" we'll get on to the weightier things even better! you get my 5. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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it'll be a treat to see just how finely all those self-proclaimed patriots can parse the applicable laws and how delicately they can finesse the ethical issues as they try to defend Karl and his boss - and they will. to double the fun, every time they open their mouths, apply The Hillary Test: would they parse, mince, duck and weave as carefully to prove the accused's innocence if Hillary Clinton was accused of outing a CIA agent who was working on national security matters, just to try to discredit the agent's husband ? of course we all know the answer, but it'll be a delight to see them prove it over and over again. dance, my pretties. dance! Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
Democrats give other Democrats the benefit of the doubt and give no such leeway to Republicans. Republicans give other Republicans the benefit of the doubt and give no such leeway to Democrats. Why don't we all try to let the investigation finish before jumping to conclusions for once.
"Live long and prosper." - Spock
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Mike Gaskey wrote: Otherwise it is a debate of intent of the law versus the actual law ah... that's the stuff. Mike Gaskey wrote: But fear not, once we can properly define, "IS" we'll get on to the weightier things even better! you get my 5. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
Chris Losinger wrote: ah... that's the stuff. Chris Losinger wrote: even better! I aim to please. Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me
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what, no defense of Rove? come on man, don't let me down. Mike Gaskey wrote: There is only one set of rules and both side use the same set. But you knew that. i'll bookmark this one, too. :) Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
Chris Losinger wrote: i'll bookmark this one, too. Someone needs to develop a good, "bookmark manager". Reckon? Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me
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Democrats give other Democrats the benefit of the doubt and give no such leeway to Republicans. Republicans give other Republicans the benefit of the doubt and give no such leeway to Democrats. Why don't we all try to let the investigation finish before jumping to conclusions for once.
"Live long and prosper." - Spock
Jason Henderson
blogJason Henderson wrote: Why don't we all try to let the investigation finish before jumping to conclusions for once. yeah, let's start with this one. :laugh: the WH is already knee-deep in its own public lies on this one. nobody needs to wait for the investigation to finish to have fun with that. sure, i'll wait for the verdict before deciding that Rove is guilty of any crime. but with what we publically know, he's already failed the ethical test. and so has McClellan. and, unless W is a complete idiot, we can assume he's known about all of this for years - and Rove still works there. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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Jeffry J. Brickley wrote: "I never revealed her 'name' to the press." If he had (or did) that would be illegal. Otherwise it is a debate of intent of the law versus the actual law. But fear not, once we can properly define, "IS" we'll get on to the weightier things. Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me
Saying that a person's wife is something may not technically be 'giving her name', but it's much too close for comfort. The intent of the law would seem to be to protect the identity of clandestine agents. Identifying someone by a unique relationship is as much revealing 'identity' as spelling out their name. If Rove did this, then he should pay the price. That said, I favor waiting for the special prosecutor to actually file specific charges (should he determine that a crime was indeed committed) rather than reacting to yet another media frenzy. Absolute faith corrupts as absolutely as absolute power Eric Hoffer The opposite of the religious fanatic is not the fanatical atheist but the gentle cynic who cares not whether there is a god or not. Eric Hoffer
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Here's a response you can predict from at least one CP regular: (can you guess who?) Rove is a right-wing capitalist like me. He's no Marxist. This means that it doesn't matter how dirty, corrupt, unethical, or sinister he is. He's got my full support. The left is simply trying to bring him down because he's a conservative. :sigh: Alvaro
Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is. -- GWB, 1999.
Actually, I don't even need to do that much. Rove is not only not a traitor, he hasn't even broken the law - even he did whay you guys are claiming he did, which he didn't. Why would Rove let Cooper reveal him as the source, but not Miller? Millter and the times are obviously trying to cover up the real source because they don't want any of us to know who it is. It if were, in fact, Rove, they would have been shouting it from the rafters during the election. BTW, if any of you lefties want to find a traitor, you need go no further than your bathroom mirror. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."