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    mango_lier
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    worked for four days to build power point presentation with 121 slides to present the status of current projects. And they gave me 15 minutes time slot to tell them everything. I miss the days when I was coding...

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      worked for four days to build power point presentation with 121 slides to present the status of current projects. And they gave me 15 minutes time slot to tell them everything. I miss the days when I was coding...

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      Nish Nishant
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      7.43 seconds per slide - wasn't that good enough for the manager-types who I presume listened to your talk? ;-)

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        7.43 seconds per slide - wasn't that good enough for the manager-types who I presume listened to your talk? ;-)

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        mango_lier
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        Most of the time was spent on just one slide, the rest ended up as backup material. Anyway, got funding for all the projects except one, development team saved for another 12 months.

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          worked for four days to build power point presentation with 121 slides to present the status of current projects. And they gave me 15 minutes time slot to tell them everything. I miss the days when I was coding...

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          Michael P Butler
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          mango_lier wrote: And they gave me 15 minutes time slot to tell them everything. I don't know anything about your projects and presentation, but anything that needed 121 slides was always going to be overkill. As in development, making presentations is always about Keeping it Simple. There is a very informative Don Box video here[^] Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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            mango_lier wrote: And they gave me 15 minutes time slot to tell them everything. I don't know anything about your projects and presentation, but anything that needed 121 slides was always going to be overkill. As in development, making presentations is always about Keeping it Simple. There is a very informative Don Box video here[^] Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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            I knew that going in, that is why I had my dashboard slide:). However, you have to be prepared when you are going in to ask for $500,000 for another year. Nice guy this Don Box fellow, met him once at Microsoft.

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              worked for four days to build power point presentation with 121 slides to present the status of current projects. And they gave me 15 minutes time slot to tell them everything. I miss the days when I was coding...

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              SimonS
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              mango_lier wrote: 121 slides That is the most frightening thing I have ever read. Hopefully the intended audience was not developers. :~ Cheers, Simon sig ::
              "Don't try to be like Jackie. There is only one Jackie.... Study computers instead.", Jackie Chan on career choices.
              article :: animation mechanics in SVG blog:: brokenkeyboards
              "Most of us are programmers, but a few use VB", Christian Graus

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                I knew that going in, that is why I had my dashboard slide:). However, you have to be prepared when you are going in to ask for $500,000 for another year. Nice guy this Don Box fellow, met him once at Microsoft.

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                Daniel Turini
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                OTOH, if you took 5 minutes per slide, your presentation would take 10 hours, non-stop. One thing that is fundamental with presentations is rehearsal. If you don't rehearsal your presentation, you won't notice its weak points until it's too late. mango_lier wrote: However, you have to be prepared when you are going in to ask for $500,000 for another year. The bigger the decision, the faster it'll be taken. They'll decide $500,000 in 5 minutes. Present 5~10 slides and be prepared to answer any detailed question about any project. I see dead pixels Yes, even I am blogging now!

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                  mango_lier wrote: 121 slides That is the most frightening thing I have ever read. Hopefully the intended audience was not developers. :~ Cheers, Simon sig ::
                  "Don't try to be like Jackie. There is only one Jackie.... Study computers instead.", Jackie Chan on career choices.
                  article :: animation mechanics in SVG blog:: brokenkeyboards
                  "Most of us are programmers, but a few use VB", Christian Graus

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                  Death by PowerPoint :( Even my daughters junior school shows them how to create PP slides. When she brings the work home I dread what fantastic effect they have learned this week. It is the spawn of Satan and should be expunged from the very fabric of society. Cue unnecessary text slide from the left. Have -----> a ----------> nice ----------------->day I still remember having to write your own code in FORTRAN rather than be a cut and paste merchant being pampered by colour coded Intellisense - ahh proper programming - those were the days :)

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                    worked for four days to build power point presentation with 121 slides to present the status of current projects. And they gave me 15 minutes time slot to tell them everything. I miss the days when I was coding...

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                    Ray Kinsella
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                    121 Slides ... should you not be using Gant Charts for this ? Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire"

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                      worked for four days to build power point presentation with 121 slides to present the status of current projects. And they gave me 15 minutes time slot to tell them everything. I miss the days when I was coding...

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                      Ryan Roberts
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                      Tufte's essay on powerpoint is brilliant (http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.09/ppt2.html[^]) I really should get round to reading the book

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                        Death by PowerPoint :( Even my daughters junior school shows them how to create PP slides. When she brings the work home I dread what fantastic effect they have learned this week. It is the spawn of Satan and should be expunged from the very fabric of society. Cue unnecessary text slide from the left. Have -----> a ----------> nice ----------------->day I still remember having to write your own code in FORTRAN rather than be a cut and paste merchant being pampered by colour coded Intellisense - ahh proper programming - those were the days :)

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                        Graham Bradshaw
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                        Baconbutty wrote: It is the spawn of Satan and should be expunged from the very fabric of society No, it's just a tool, albeit one that is often used badly. If I choose to dig over a 2 acre plot with a teaspoon, that's a bad use of the tool, but not a reason to get rid of teaspoons.

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                          Tufte's essay on powerpoint is brilliant (http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.09/ppt2.html[^]) I really should get round to reading the book

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                          Michael A Barnhart
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                          "Such misuse ignores the most important rule of speaking: Respect your audience." Well said. I do not mind getting old. It beats all the other options that I can think of.

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                            mango_lier wrote: 121 slides That is the most frightening thing I have ever read. Hopefully the intended audience was not developers. :~ Cheers, Simon sig ::
                            "Don't try to be like Jackie. There is only one Jackie.... Study computers instead.", Jackie Chan on career choices.
                            article :: animation mechanics in SVG blog:: brokenkeyboards
                            "Most of us are programmers, but a few use VB", Christian Graus

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                            Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                            If its that long, its usually business types who demand way more detail than they are prepared to listen to. The last time I had to prepare a presentation anywhere near that size it was for GEC-Marconi Avionics. Fortunately, I didn't have to present the thing. X| Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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                              worked for four days to build power point presentation with 121 slides to present the status of current projects. And they gave me 15 minutes time slot to tell them everything. I miss the days when I was coding...

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                              Did you know how much time was allocated for the presentation before you started work? My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips

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                                Baconbutty wrote: It is the spawn of Satan and should be expunged from the very fabric of society No, it's just a tool, albeit one that is often used badly. If I choose to dig over a 2 acre plot with a teaspoon, that's a bad use of the tool, but not a reason to get rid of teaspoons.

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                                Graham Bradshaw wrote: No, it's just a tool, albeit one that is often used badly. Well, yeah, but the iron maiden was a tool as well, and there just weren't a lot of people looking for good uses back in its day. :) If you build a teaspoon with an extra long handle to make it easier to dig large plots, you have a tool that is unfit for use as a teaspoon, while encoraging uses that are much less productive.

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                                  Alexander Kent
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                                  121 slides is no joke- i dont know about its content but i think you could & should have cut that in half ~Alexander Kent

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                                    Graham Bradshaw wrote: No, it's just a tool, albeit one that is often used badly. Well, yeah, but the iron maiden was a tool as well, and there just weren't a lot of people looking for good uses back in its day. :) If you build a teaspoon with an extra long handle to make it easier to dig large plots, you have a tool that is unfit for use as a teaspoon, while encoraging uses that are much less productive.

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                                    code frog 0
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                                    Shog9 wrote: yeah, but the iron maiden was a tool Dang good music at that!

                                    I know you can't become if you only say what you would have done and you'll miss a million miles of fun." - Len Work hard, play hard. Don't forget who you are and don't forget where you're from. Do all these things well and you won't have to wonder where you are going.

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                                      code frog 0
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                                      121 slides in PP is nothing. How you deliver it is everything. I've seen large PP presentations. 100+ slides. 10 were actually discussed and the rest could be downloaded by *whoever* later and they could have as much or little as they want. At least it wasn't 666 slides in the presentation! BOO!-HISS!:omg:

                                      I know you can't become if you only say what you would have done and you'll miss a million miles of fun." - Len Work hard, play hard. Don't forget who you are and don't forget where you're from. Do all these things well and you won't have to wonder where you are going.

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                                        Death by PowerPoint :( Even my daughters junior school shows them how to create PP slides. When she brings the work home I dread what fantastic effect they have learned this week. It is the spawn of Satan and should be expunged from the very fabric of society. Cue unnecessary text slide from the left. Have -----> a ----------> nice ----------------->day I still remember having to write your own code in FORTRAN rather than be a cut and paste merchant being pampered by colour coded Intellisense - ahh proper programming - those were the days :)

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                                        Gary R Wheeler
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                                        I have you ever looked at a PowerPoint presentation created by a junior high school kid? My daughter uses it. I looked at one of her presentations last year. I almost projectile-regurgitated when I realized she used a different theme for every slide X|. Fortunately, the teacher graded on content.


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