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    So I was travelling from Clapham Common to Ealing Broadway, a rather tortous trip to tell the truth*, staring out the carriages windows at the black void of the underground tunnels (I had forgotten my book and there were no handy free newspapers lying around). All I could see were the kilometres of cabling carrying high voltage and the odd sickening moment as the wall came within a foot of the window. Apart from that I might as well have been inside a black ping pong ball. All of this got me thinking. Advertising is big on the underground, in fact every time I come into Clapham Common a half naked women stares out at me from a poster trying to, not very successfully, sell me a Wonderbra. Everywhere you go there is advertising, every square inch is plastered with everything from Les Miserables to Intel to Wonderbra to Ben and Jerry's adverts. Well almost everywhere, the very place you spend most of your time staring at does not have any advertising. Where? The tunnel walls! Then it hit me. Not only would that be a great place to put a normal advert, but the movement of the train could mean full motion adverts! Like on the telly! Only a bit cruder of course. Remember the days when you got a small flip-book, drew a bunch of pictures of a woman getting undressed onto the pages and then flicked it back and forth? It looked like a crude animation. So couldn't they do the same thing on the walls of the underground? Well that was my idea for the day. I have to do a bit more research into the mechanics and feasibility of it but if one day you spot full motion naked women or other titilating adverts on the tunnel walls you will know who to thank, or hate... :-D * I could not resist :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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      So I was travelling from Clapham Common to Ealing Broadway, a rather tortous trip to tell the truth*, staring out the carriages windows at the black void of the underground tunnels (I had forgotten my book and there were no handy free newspapers lying around). All I could see were the kilometres of cabling carrying high voltage and the odd sickening moment as the wall came within a foot of the window. Apart from that I might as well have been inside a black ping pong ball. All of this got me thinking. Advertising is big on the underground, in fact every time I come into Clapham Common a half naked women stares out at me from a poster trying to, not very successfully, sell me a Wonderbra. Everywhere you go there is advertising, every square inch is plastered with everything from Les Miserables to Intel to Wonderbra to Ben and Jerry's adverts. Well almost everywhere, the very place you spend most of your time staring at does not have any advertising. Where? The tunnel walls! Then it hit me. Not only would that be a great place to put a normal advert, but the movement of the train could mean full motion adverts! Like on the telly! Only a bit cruder of course. Remember the days when you got a small flip-book, drew a bunch of pictures of a woman getting undressed onto the pages and then flicked it back and forth? It looked like a crude animation. So couldn't they do the same thing on the walls of the underground? Well that was my idea for the day. I have to do a bit more research into the mechanics and feasibility of it but if one day you spot full motion naked women or other titilating adverts on the tunnel walls you will know who to thank, or hate... :-D * I could not resist :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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      Paul Watson wrote: Then it hit me. Not only would that be a great place to put a normal advert, but the movement of the train could mean full motion adverts! Like on the telly! Only a bit cruder of course. They are already used here, In Athens Gr. You can see a full motion Ad. on the tunnel walls, following the train for almost 10 secs .

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        Paul Watson wrote: Then it hit me. Not only would that be a great place to put a normal advert, but the movement of the train could mean full motion adverts! Like on the telly! Only a bit cruder of course. They are already used here, In Athens Gr. You can see a full motion Ad. on the tunnel walls, following the train for almost 10 secs .

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        ioannhs_s wrote: They are already used here, In Athens Gr. You can see a full motion Ad. on the tunnel walls, following the train for almost 10 secs . :omg: great! Does it work well? When did it start? Do people like or dislike them? Are there naked ladies in them? Any clue if the company doing them has a patent or similar such thing out on them? I have never been to Athens, but here is one more reason to visit :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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          ioannhs_s wrote: They are already used here, In Athens Gr. You can see a full motion Ad. on the tunnel walls, following the train for almost 10 secs . :omg: great! Does it work well? When did it start? Do people like or dislike them? Are there naked ladies in them? Any clue if the company doing them has a patent or similar such thing out on them? I have never been to Athens, but here is one more reason to visit :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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          It really works. I'm not sure when it started. No earlier than summer time I think. I Can not tell how people fill about this, but the first time you see it, it's quite an experience. No, not naked girls yet! It's a Coca Cola Ad. Not a clue about the company or patents

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            So I was travelling from Clapham Common to Ealing Broadway, a rather tortous trip to tell the truth*, staring out the carriages windows at the black void of the underground tunnels (I had forgotten my book and there were no handy free newspapers lying around). All I could see were the kilometres of cabling carrying high voltage and the odd sickening moment as the wall came within a foot of the window. Apart from that I might as well have been inside a black ping pong ball. All of this got me thinking. Advertising is big on the underground, in fact every time I come into Clapham Common a half naked women stares out at me from a poster trying to, not very successfully, sell me a Wonderbra. Everywhere you go there is advertising, every square inch is plastered with everything from Les Miserables to Intel to Wonderbra to Ben and Jerry's adverts. Well almost everywhere, the very place you spend most of your time staring at does not have any advertising. Where? The tunnel walls! Then it hit me. Not only would that be a great place to put a normal advert, but the movement of the train could mean full motion adverts! Like on the telly! Only a bit cruder of course. Remember the days when you got a small flip-book, drew a bunch of pictures of a woman getting undressed onto the pages and then flicked it back and forth? It looked like a crude animation. So couldn't they do the same thing on the walls of the underground? Well that was my idea for the day. I have to do a bit more research into the mechanics and feasibility of it but if one day you spot full motion naked women or other titilating adverts on the tunnel walls you will know who to thank, or hate... :-D * I could not resist :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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            That's a pretty old concept Paul..i saw it on Discovery long time back. Even to show a still picture they have to strech it over a series of slides which have are then put on the walls of the tunnel so that while moving at a normal speed through the tunnel it seems like ur looking at a still picture..they have to carefully calculate how to split up the pictures depending on the speed of the train.. I think it's already implemented in the London Underground.

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              That's a pretty old concept Paul..i saw it on Discovery long time back. Even to show a still picture they have to strech it over a series of slides which have are then put on the walls of the tunnel so that while moving at a normal speed through the tunnel it seems like ur looking at a still picture..they have to carefully calculate how to split up the pictures depending on the speed of the train.. I think it's already implemented in the London Underground.

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              Sijin Joseph wrote: That's a pretty old concept Paul..i saw it on Discovery long time back. Oh I know that the mechanism is a very old concept but I never thought, or have heard of, anyone actually using it on the underground. I know for a fact that it is not implemented in the London Underground (over the last year and a bit I have probably touched every tube station in London and never seen anything on the tube walls). Plus I asked around and they said no. ioannhs_s tells me that it is on the Athens underground. Still, while maybe not original, it is a good idea for the underground :) Sijin Joseph wrote: they have to carefully calculate how to split up the pictures depending on the speed of the train.. Oh I am sure it is pretty difficult stuff. Everything from not having adverts in "go slow" areas, to figuring out how to lay adverts over a very rough and bumpy wall. Also tubes are hardly reliable. Lots of issues, but lots of promise :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                Sijin Joseph wrote: That's a pretty old concept Paul..i saw it on Discovery long time back. Oh I know that the mechanism is a very old concept but I never thought, or have heard of, anyone actually using it on the underground. I know for a fact that it is not implemented in the London Underground (over the last year and a bit I have probably touched every tube station in London and never seen anything on the tube walls). Plus I asked around and they said no. ioannhs_s tells me that it is on the Athens underground. Still, while maybe not original, it is a good idea for the underground :) Sijin Joseph wrote: they have to carefully calculate how to split up the pictures depending on the speed of the train.. Oh I am sure it is pretty difficult stuff. Everything from not having adverts in "go slow" areas, to figuring out how to lay adverts over a very rough and bumpy wall. Also tubes are hardly reliable. Lots of issues, but lots of promise :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                Paul Watson wrote: over the last year and a bit I have probably touched every tube station in London So how often do you get over to the UK Paul? I am not too far off (south by 50 miles). I feel a drinking binge coming on....but I don't drink* * When I say I don't drink, I mean alcohol, water;orange juice etc is not included, I do need some liquid...otherwise I would be a dehydrated husk or a Koala bear by now. :-D Roger Allen Sonork 100.10016

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                  It really works. I'm not sure when it started. No earlier than summer time I think. I Can not tell how people fill about this, but the first time you see it, it's quite an experience. No, not naked girls yet! It's a Coca Cola Ad. Not a clue about the company or patents

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                  ioannhs_s wrote: No, not naked girls yet! It's a Coca Cola Ad. :laugh: :-D :laugh: :-D :laugh: Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org Nish is a BIG fan of Goran Ivanisevic

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                    Paul Watson wrote: over the last year and a bit I have probably touched every tube station in London So how often do you get over to the UK Paul? I am not too far off (south by 50 miles). I feel a drinking binge coming on....but I don't drink* * When I say I don't drink, I mean alcohol, water;orange juice etc is not included, I do need some liquid...otherwise I would be a dehydrated husk or a Koala bear by now. :-D Roger Allen Sonork 100.10016

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                    Roger Allen wrote: So how often do you get over to the UK Paul? Well in the last year I have been to London 5 times for about 3 weeks at a time. First time was grand, and the second and third. Fourth and fifth have been a bit "god, not the tubes again!". I could never live in this city, would drive me nuts. I am leaving back for lovely Cape Town this thursday. Roger Allen wrote: feel a drinking binge coming on....but I don't drink* * When I say I don't drink, I mean alcohol, water;orange juice etc is not included, I do need some liquid...otherwise I would be a dehydrated husk or a Koala bear by now. Ahhhh, one of those h20aholics... have you gone to the HA and admitted your vice? :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                      Roger Allen wrote: So how often do you get over to the UK Paul? Well in the last year I have been to London 5 times for about 3 weeks at a time. First time was grand, and the second and third. Fourth and fifth have been a bit "god, not the tubes again!". I could never live in this city, would drive me nuts. I am leaving back for lovely Cape Town this thursday. Roger Allen wrote: feel a drinking binge coming on....but I don't drink* * When I say I don't drink, I mean alcohol, water;orange juice etc is not included, I do need some liquid...otherwise I would be a dehydrated husk or a Koala bear by now. Ahhhh, one of those h20aholics... have you gone to the HA and admitted your vice? :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                      I just got back from London and did the Clapham Common to Ealing Broadway trip myself....kind of funny how you mentioned that...(I was staying in Ealing and had to play a game of aussie rules football at Clapham Common)...actually I noticed all the advertisements as well..they sure do cram them in....not nearly as many here in Toronto:)

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                        So I was travelling from Clapham Common to Ealing Broadway, a rather tortous trip to tell the truth*, staring out the carriages windows at the black void of the underground tunnels (I had forgotten my book and there were no handy free newspapers lying around). All I could see were the kilometres of cabling carrying high voltage and the odd sickening moment as the wall came within a foot of the window. Apart from that I might as well have been inside a black ping pong ball. All of this got me thinking. Advertising is big on the underground, in fact every time I come into Clapham Common a half naked women stares out at me from a poster trying to, not very successfully, sell me a Wonderbra. Everywhere you go there is advertising, every square inch is plastered with everything from Les Miserables to Intel to Wonderbra to Ben and Jerry's adverts. Well almost everywhere, the very place you spend most of your time staring at does not have any advertising. Where? The tunnel walls! Then it hit me. Not only would that be a great place to put a normal advert, but the movement of the train could mean full motion adverts! Like on the telly! Only a bit cruder of course. Remember the days when you got a small flip-book, drew a bunch of pictures of a woman getting undressed onto the pages and then flicked it back and forth? It looked like a crude animation. So couldn't they do the same thing on the walls of the underground? Well that was my idea for the day. I have to do a bit more research into the mechanics and feasibility of it but if one day you spot full motion naked women or other titilating adverts on the tunnel walls you will know who to thank, or hate... :-D * I could not resist :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                        Paul Watson wrote: Remember the days when you got a small flip-book, drew a bunch of pictures of a woman getting undressed onto the pages and then flicked it back and forth? It looked like a crude animation. No, but this explains a lot.... :laugh: Christian After all, there's nothing wrong with an elite as long as I'm allowed to be part of it!! - Mike Burston Oct 23, 2001

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                          So I was travelling from Clapham Common to Ealing Broadway, a rather tortous trip to tell the truth*, staring out the carriages windows at the black void of the underground tunnels (I had forgotten my book and there were no handy free newspapers lying around). All I could see were the kilometres of cabling carrying high voltage and the odd sickening moment as the wall came within a foot of the window. Apart from that I might as well have been inside a black ping pong ball. All of this got me thinking. Advertising is big on the underground, in fact every time I come into Clapham Common a half naked women stares out at me from a poster trying to, not very successfully, sell me a Wonderbra. Everywhere you go there is advertising, every square inch is plastered with everything from Les Miserables to Intel to Wonderbra to Ben and Jerry's adverts. Well almost everywhere, the very place you spend most of your time staring at does not have any advertising. Where? The tunnel walls! Then it hit me. Not only would that be a great place to put a normal advert, but the movement of the train could mean full motion adverts! Like on the telly! Only a bit cruder of course. Remember the days when you got a small flip-book, drew a bunch of pictures of a woman getting undressed onto the pages and then flicked it back and forth? It looked like a crude animation. So couldn't they do the same thing on the walls of the underground? Well that was my idea for the day. I have to do a bit more research into the mechanics and feasibility of it but if one day you spot full motion naked women or other titilating adverts on the tunnel walls you will know who to thank, or hate... :-D * I could not resist :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                          I'd never heard of this before, but reading the subsequent posts it's been done. I think we need someting really revolutionary -- like an ad on the moon. :eek: "das leid schlaft in der maschine" -Einstürzende Neubauten

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                            So I was travelling from Clapham Common to Ealing Broadway, a rather tortous trip to tell the truth*, staring out the carriages windows at the black void of the underground tunnels (I had forgotten my book and there were no handy free newspapers lying around). All I could see were the kilometres of cabling carrying high voltage and the odd sickening moment as the wall came within a foot of the window. Apart from that I might as well have been inside a black ping pong ball. All of this got me thinking. Advertising is big on the underground, in fact every time I come into Clapham Common a half naked women stares out at me from a poster trying to, not very successfully, sell me a Wonderbra. Everywhere you go there is advertising, every square inch is plastered with everything from Les Miserables to Intel to Wonderbra to Ben and Jerry's adverts. Well almost everywhere, the very place you spend most of your time staring at does not have any advertising. Where? The tunnel walls! Then it hit me. Not only would that be a great place to put a normal advert, but the movement of the train could mean full motion adverts! Like on the telly! Only a bit cruder of course. Remember the days when you got a small flip-book, drew a bunch of pictures of a woman getting undressed onto the pages and then flicked it back and forth? It looked like a crude animation. So couldn't they do the same thing on the walls of the underground? Well that was my idea for the day. I have to do a bit more research into the mechanics and feasibility of it but if one day you spot full motion naked women or other titilating adverts on the tunnel walls you will know who to thank, or hate... :-D * I could not resist :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                            Something awful like that has been tried in Berlin, the now german capital. The Berlin Underground ("U-Bahn"), which sometimes runs on steel viaducts above the earth (hence "Underground"), was equipped with a test installation between two sub-terranean stations, namely "Zoologischer Garten" and "Hansaplatz" on line 9. This test installation was composed of a rather longish white screen, attached to the tunnel wall, together with hundreds of image projectors. These projectors were supposed to flash an image for a short moment to the screen, this being synchronized with the train's movement, thus rendering the impression of a moving image. Before they came to the conclusive idea to use it for garbage, er, commercials, they tried to impress the unimpressed crowd by showing short artistic movies. Well, this "impression of moving images" thing remembered me of early 20th century cinema technology, with the addition of colour. They finally realized that this won't be the hammer application of the next millennium, partly due to heavy synchronization problems, partly due to people's unwillingness to stare out of a train's windows to a badly lit, flickering and not well-focused moving image. Besides, this stretch of tunnel (northbound from "Zoologischer Garten") is mostly used by low-pay commuters going to their homes north of Berlin's centre. Now overhead LC displays were installed inside the trains, showing so-called information and - you bet: commercials. The information is produced by one of the lower-quality tabloids (there are so many in Berlin that there's actually a quality comparison in tabloids) and is as informative as US television. The commercials mainly consist of commercials by the Berlin public transport (BVG), in which happy people (something you'll nearly never notice inside a public transport in Berlin, except when narcotics are involved) are showing their tickets to a ticket inspector. At least this "information" that is presented there goes without sound, but I doubt that this will remain this way ... If large-scale flat panel displays were less expensive, they'd be replacing the train's windows by them, thus creating wholly new possibilities for people selling really dark glasses. And soundproof headphones.

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                              I'd never heard of this before, but reading the subsequent posts it's been done. I think we need someting really revolutionary -- like an ad on the moon. :eek: "das leid schlaft in der maschine" -Einstürzende Neubauten

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                              Daniel Ferguson wrote: like an ad on the moon. Funny you say that. One of the first sci-fi books I read had a short story about a group of scientists who went up to the moon. They took along with them a kind of ejector machine filled with some or other phospherence. Their plan was to send out a vast cloud of this phospherence and as the sunlight hit the chemical it would luminesce and be visible from Earth. Well all went to plan but some sneaky bribed scientist put a kind of "stencil" over the mouth of this machine and everyone on Earth saw this huge "Drink Coca Cola" advert. Without the atmosphere the "ad" stayed up for ages. I loved that story, naturally the author told it much better than I. :) I am not sure but I think it was Robert Silverberg who wrote the story. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                                I just got back from London and did the Clapham Common to Ealing Broadway trip myself....kind of funny how you mentioned that...(I was staying in Ealing and had to play a game of aussie rules football at Clapham Common)...actually I noticed all the advertisements as well..they sure do cram them in....not nearly as many here in Toronto:)

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                                Ed Worsfold wrote: play a game of aussie rules football You mean "aussie no rules football" :-D Nearly broke my neck the first time I played that game! Ed Worsfold wrote: actually I noticed all the advertisements as well..they sure do cram them in....not nearly as many here in Toronto Well apart from TV adverts are pretty sparse in Cape Town as well, thankfully. I can actually look at a beautiful building and not have a huge billboard obstructing my view. IMHO all the ad's make the underground look really tatty, well more so than it already is :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                                  Paul Watson wrote: Remember the days when you got a small flip-book, drew a bunch of pictures of a woman getting undressed onto the pages and then flicked it back and forth? It looked like a crude animation. No, but this explains a lot.... :laugh: Christian After all, there's nothing wrong with an elite as long as I'm allowed to be part of it!! - Mike Burston Oct 23, 2001

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                                  ****Christian Graus wrote: No, but this explains a lot You never did that when you were a kid then Christian? Boy, you never lived! :-D The first flip-books had Ninjas doing fly-kicks and what not. As soon as we realised that a: women were desirable, b: we were too young to buy Playboy and c: we could make our own flip-books.... well the rest is history really :laugh: regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                                    ****Christian Graus wrote: No, but this explains a lot You never did that when you were a kid then Christian? Boy, you never lived! :-D The first flip-books had Ninjas doing fly-kicks and what not. As soon as we realised that a: women were desirable, b: we were too young to buy Playboy and c: we could make our own flip-books.... well the rest is history really :laugh: regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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                                    Paul Watson wrote: The first flip-books had Ninjas doing fly-kicks and what not. As soon as we realised that a: women were desirable, b: we were too young to buy Playboy and c: we could make our own flip-books.... well the rest is history really No, I did the following: a/ watched the 'French Postcards' series on my Apple ][ b/ found shops in remote areas so poor they would sell pr0n to anyone because they needed the money c/ find kids whose parents read pr0n and pay them to steal it for me d/ steal it myself. While you were looking at line drawings, I was looking at chicks who were nekkid !!! Christian After all, there's nothing wrong with an elite as long as I'm allowed to be part of it!! - Mike Burston Oct 23, 2001

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                                      Paul Watson wrote: The first flip-books had Ninjas doing fly-kicks and what not. As soon as we realised that a: women were desirable, b: we were too young to buy Playboy and c: we could make our own flip-books.... well the rest is history really No, I did the following: a/ watched the 'French Postcards' series on my Apple ][ b/ found shops in remote areas so poor they would sell pr0n to anyone because they needed the money c/ find kids whose parents read pr0n and pay them to steal it for me d/ steal it myself. While you were looking at line drawings, I was looking at chicks who were nekkid !!! Christian After all, there's nothing wrong with an elite as long as I'm allowed to be part of it!! - Mike Burston Oct 23, 2001

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                                      ****Christian Graus wrote: While you were looking at line drawings, I was looking at chicks who were nekkid !!! Ahhh, that explains a lot ;) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge

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