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Code Project wrote: Welcome to the Lounge! The Lounge is a place where you can discuss anything that takes your fancy. If you just want to laze about and discuss things that don't quite fit elsewhere, then this is the place. Posting Guideline: The Lounge is rated PG. If you're about to post something you wouldn't want your kid sister to read then don't post it. Do not post programming questions (use the programming forums for that) and please don't post ads. Where does it say political discussions, or religious discussions for that matter (I don't go there), are off limits or some how offensive to the community's sensibilities? Code Project wrote: The Lounge is rated PG. Doesn't that mean "parental guidance" in the movie industry? In other words the discussion could be adult in nature if they are carried out without being overtly offensive. I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
Oh Jeez. Can you not even do simple logic... JimmyRopes quoting from the posting guidlines wrote: "discuss things that don't quite fit elsewhere" JimmyRopes wrote: Where does it say political discussions, or religious discussions for that matter (I don't go there), are off limits or some how offensive to the community's sensibilities? Within the context of Code Project they are accptable, with in the context of the Lounge they are NOT acceptable. The Soapbox is for political or religious discussions, stuff rated higher than PG etc. Therefore it (a political message) does fit somewhere else. Excerpt from algorithm to decide whethere to post in the Lounge:
public bool ShouldIPostInTheLounge(string message)
{
if ((MessageIsPolitical(message)) ||
(MessageIsReligious(message)) ||
(MessageIsProgrammingQuestion(message)) ||
(MessageIsRated12OrAbove(message)))
{
return false;
}
// Other rules here.....
}Does this help?
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote: Well, the soapbox is there, so it political discussions have somewhere to fit in already. Not all political discussions are rants. Some people are able to present considered political argumants without the need to resort to ranting. Others cannot and should limit their participation in any discussion, political or otherwise, to the soapbox. Code Project wrote: The Code Project discussion boards - The Soapbox - off-topic rants If you want to get something off your chest then do it here - but enter at your own risk. The soapbox is a place for ranting and not necessarily for civilized political discussions. If I want to rant I will go to the soapbox, if I want to discuss things in a civilized manner I will go to the lounge. A subtlety that apparently is lost. I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
JimmyRopes wrote: if I want to discuss things in a civilized manner I will go to the lounge. A subtlety that apparently is lost. So keep to subjects that can be discussed in a civilised manner already! Sheesh...
My: Blog | Photos "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucious
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Oh Jeez. Can you not even do simple logic... JimmyRopes quoting from the posting guidlines wrote: "discuss things that don't quite fit elsewhere" JimmyRopes wrote: Where does it say political discussions, or religious discussions for that matter (I don't go there), are off limits or some how offensive to the community's sensibilities? Within the context of Code Project they are accptable, with in the context of the Lounge they are NOT acceptable. The Soapbox is for political or religious discussions, stuff rated higher than PG etc. Therefore it (a political message) does fit somewhere else. Excerpt from algorithm to decide whethere to post in the Lounge:
public bool ShouldIPostInTheLounge(string message)
{
if ((MessageIsPolitical(message)) ||
(MessageIsReligious(message)) ||
(MessageIsProgrammingQuestion(message)) ||
(MessageIsRated12OrAbove(message)))
{
return false;
}
// Other rules here.....
}Does this help?
My: Blog | Photos "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucious
Colin Angus Mackay wrote: Well, the soapbox is there, so it political discussions have somewhere to fit in already. Not all political discussions are rants. Some people are able to present considered political arguments without the need to resort to ranting. Others cannot and should limit their participation in any discussion, political or otherwise, to the soapbox. Colin Angus Mackay wrote: Oh Jeez. Can you not even do simple logic... Don't be condescending. If you insist on ranting you should go to the soapbox where these kinds of comments belong. Colin Angus Mackay wrote: Within the context of Code Project they are acceptable, with in the context of the Lounge they are NOT acceptable. It is very presumptuous that you are taking it on yourself to speak for the 2.2M members of code project. It might be a revelation to you but not everyone has the same opinion as you do about what is appropriate and what is not. Colin Angus Mackay wrote: The Soapbox is for political or religious discussions, stuff rated higher than PG etc. Therefore it (a political message) does fit somewhere else. Nowhere does it state that "The Soapbox is for political or religious discussions". Why are you trying to impose your assumptions on the rest of us. Colin Angus Mackay wrote: Excerpt from algorithm to decide whethere to post in the Lounge: public bool ShouldIPostInTheLounge(string message) { if ((MessageIsPolitical(message)) || (MessageIsReligious(message)) || (MessageIsProgrammingQuestion(message)) || (MessageIsRated12OrAbove(message))) { return false; } // Other rules here..... } There you go being condescending again. It is very presumptuous that you should state these rules like they are engraved in stone. I for one do not believe that political discussion is necessarily adult in nature. The earlier young people are engaged in issues that affect their lives, in an age appropriate manner, the earlier they can start to consider the issues that are important to them for the rest of their lives. Religious messages are taught to young children every Friday, if you believe in Islam, Saturday, if you believe in Judaism, and Sunday if you believe in Christianity. Sorry to all the Hindu, Jainist, Buddhist, Taoist, etc., brethren for not mentioning you, you are not forgotten but for the p
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JimmyRopes wrote: if I want to discuss things in a civilized manner I will go to the lounge. A subtlety that apparently is lost. So keep to subjects that can be discussed in a civilised manner already! Sheesh...
My: Blog | Photos "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucious
Colin Angus Mackay wrote: So keep to subjects that can be discussed in a civilised manner already! Sheesh... I am! I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote: Well, the soapbox is there, so it political discussions have somewhere to fit in already. Not all political discussions are rants. Some people are able to present considered political arguments without the need to resort to ranting. Others cannot and should limit their participation in any discussion, political or otherwise, to the soapbox. Colin Angus Mackay wrote: Oh Jeez. Can you not even do simple logic... Don't be condescending. If you insist on ranting you should go to the soapbox where these kinds of comments belong. Colin Angus Mackay wrote: Within the context of Code Project they are acceptable, with in the context of the Lounge they are NOT acceptable. It is very presumptuous that you are taking it on yourself to speak for the 2.2M members of code project. It might be a revelation to you but not everyone has the same opinion as you do about what is appropriate and what is not. Colin Angus Mackay wrote: The Soapbox is for political or religious discussions, stuff rated higher than PG etc. Therefore it (a political message) does fit somewhere else. Nowhere does it state that "The Soapbox is for political or religious discussions". Why are you trying to impose your assumptions on the rest of us. Colin Angus Mackay wrote: Excerpt from algorithm to decide whethere to post in the Lounge: public bool ShouldIPostInTheLounge(string message) { if ((MessageIsPolitical(message)) || (MessageIsReligious(message)) || (MessageIsProgrammingQuestion(message)) || (MessageIsRated12OrAbove(message))) { return false; } // Other rules here..... } There you go being condescending again. It is very presumptuous that you should state these rules like they are engraved in stone. I for one do not believe that political discussion is necessarily adult in nature. The earlier young people are engaged in issues that affect their lives, in an age appropriate manner, the earlier they can start to consider the issues that are important to them for the rest of their lives. Religious messages are taught to young children every Friday, if you believe in Islam, Saturday, if you believe in Judaism, and Sunday if you believe in Christianity. Sorry to all the Hindu, Jainist, Buddhist, Taoist, etc., brethren for not mentioning you, you are not forgotten but for the p
JimmyRopes wrote: Don't be condescending. I get the impression that you actually understand the rule, but you want to continue the argument because you don't want to be seen as having lost. If that is not the case then I apologies for being condesending, I was getting frustrated with what appeared to me as a circular argument. JimmyRopes wrote: It is a very presumptuous that you should state these rules like they are engraved in stone. I'm a software developer, that's how I codify stuff and code can be changed so it isn't "engraved in stone" JimmyRopes wrote: The earlier young people are engaged in issues that affect their lives, in an age appropriate manner, the earlier they can start to consider the issues that are important to them for the rest of their lives. I agree with you on that point. However, it has been a long standing rule that political and religious discussions do not go in the Lounge. I've made the mistake in the past and I've apologiesed and adhered to the forum etiquette after that. No big deal. I don't pee in the street because I know that it is not acceptable, and I don't discuss politics or religion or tell dirty jokes here in the Lounge because it isn't acceptable here. JimmyRopes wrote: When you get voted into the position of spokesman for the rest of CP then you can talk with some authority, until then please do not confuse your opinions with the sentiment of the rest of us. You are right, I'm not a spokesman for CP. However, I know what the rules are and I've tried to explain them, but you want to impose your rules on the rest of us. JimmyRopes wrote: If others have similar opinions they should state them also. That is what it means to me to discuss things. Discussion is not a monologue where you state things and everyone is supposed to believe it. If you look back through the forum archives you will see this discussion on what can and cannot be discussed in the Lounge arise again and again. And on each occastion the result is: No politics, no religion, no smutty jokes and so on because they go in the Soapbox. In fact in the Soapbox was set up for that very reason, because people in the Lounge wanted to relax and have a bit of fun and did not want to have to read politics or religion or anything that might inflame them and spoil the relaxation they sought. So, I hope you now understand where things are at, a
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Edbert P. wrote: And most political discussions may go into the direction where I don't want my kid sister to read. The operative word is
may. Are you implying that CPers are not capable of holding a civilized discussion on a controvercial topic in a forum whose stated purpose is to hold civilized discussions? To ban political discussion because of whatmayhappen is overly repressive and I find it reprehensible. I think therefore I am. -- Rene Descartes JimmyRopesI agree with all of your points.
"One must learn from the bite of the fire to leave it alone." - Native American Proverb
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote: Well, the soapbox is there, so it political discussions have somewhere to fit in already. Not all political discussions are rants. Some people are able to present considered political arguments without the need to resort to ranting. Others cannot and should limit their participation in any discussion, political or otherwise, to the soapbox. Colin Angus Mackay wrote: Oh Jeez. Can you not even do simple logic... Don't be condescending. If you insist on ranting you should go to the soapbox where these kinds of comments belong. Colin Angus Mackay wrote: Within the context of Code Project they are acceptable, with in the context of the Lounge they are NOT acceptable. It is very presumptuous that you are taking it on yourself to speak for the 2.2M members of code project. It might be a revelation to you but not everyone has the same opinion as you do about what is appropriate and what is not. Colin Angus Mackay wrote: The Soapbox is for political or religious discussions, stuff rated higher than PG etc. Therefore it (a political message) does fit somewhere else. Nowhere does it state that "The Soapbox is for political or religious discussions". Why are you trying to impose your assumptions on the rest of us. Colin Angus Mackay wrote: Excerpt from algorithm to decide whethere to post in the Lounge: public bool ShouldIPostInTheLounge(string message) { if ((MessageIsPolitical(message)) || (MessageIsReligious(message)) || (MessageIsProgrammingQuestion(message)) || (MessageIsRated12OrAbove(message))) { return false; } // Other rules here..... } There you go being condescending again. It is very presumptuous that you should state these rules like they are engraved in stone. I for one do not believe that political discussion is necessarily adult in nature. The earlier young people are engaged in issues that affect their lives, in an age appropriate manner, the earlier they can start to consider the issues that are important to them for the rest of their lives. Religious messages are taught to young children every Friday, if you believe in Islam, Saturday, if you believe in Judaism, and Sunday if you believe in Christianity. Sorry to all the Hindu, Jainist, Buddhist, Taoist, etc., brethren for not mentioning you, you are not forgotten but for the p
JimmyRopes wrote: Not all political discussions are rants. Some people are able to present considered political arguments without the need to resort to ranting. True. It all depends on the individual(s) involved.
"One must learn from the bite of the fire to leave it alone." - Native American Proverb
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I agree with all of your points.
"One must learn from the bite of the fire to leave it alone." - Native American Proverb
Thank you David. I have to admit that I was feeling a bit lonely and a bit frustrated that people seemed to think that I want to have a political or religious discussion; I do not. I am only giving my opinion that the lounge rules specifically do not prohibit these discussions and I think it a bit presumptuous that the person that posted the original question was admonished for posting against an unwritten rule that he somehow was supposed to know. I like your signature line and have to say that it has new meaning for me. Thank you again for your comment. I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
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Thank you David. I have to admit that I was feeling a bit lonely and a bit frustrated that people seemed to think that I want to have a political or religious discussion; I do not. I am only giving my opinion that the lounge rules specifically do not prohibit these discussions and I think it a bit presumptuous that the person that posted the original question was admonished for posting against an unwritten rule that he somehow was supposed to know. I like your signature line and have to say that it has new meaning for me. Thank you again for your comment. I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
JimmyRopes wrote: I like your signature line and have to say that it has new meaning for me. Thanks. My other one is being used by Alok.
"One must learn from the bite of the fire to leave it alone." - Native American Proverb
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That signature is hilarious :-D regards, Paul Watson South Africa Colib and WebTwoZero. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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paulb wrote: I hate abbreviations. Hate speech and rants belong in the soapbox. Pls del ths msg ;) Steve T
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JimmyRopes wrote: Not all political discussions are rants. Some people are able to present considered political arguments without the need to resort to ranting. True. It all depends on the individual(s) involved.
"One must learn from the bite of the fire to leave it alone." - Native American Proverb
JimmyRopes wrote: Not all political discussions are rants. Some people are able to present considered political arguments without the need to resort to ranting. DavidCrow wrote: True. It all depends on the individual(s) involved. True, but still boring as hell => not in the Lounge :) Never forget: "Stay kul and happy" (I.A.)
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