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    feline_dracoform
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    since my old 17" CRT monitor would no longer turn its self on reliably i have invested in a new 19" LCD monitor, a "Samsung SyncMaster 193p Plus". initial results show that this is a very nice monitor. however i am having some problems with readability of fonts and ClearType. most of the time ClearType seems to be a good idea, but some of the time i am ending up with text i can hardly read, and other times i am ending up with fuzzy text with the impression of a colour band down the sides of the letters. posting this message in firefox is a good example. the post title text looks clear and sharp, while the post text looks fuzzy around the edges. am i supposed to just learn to live with fuzzy text? it is very uncomfortable, so this is not really an option for me. if i turn off clear type i end up with lots of places where the font is very hard to read. i am hoping i can fix this via windows settings, but what about web sites, and program dialog boxes? VMWare 5 is an easy example. when restoring a snap shot i get a warning message, asking for me to confirm. turning clear type on or off makes no difference to the text in this dialog, and using my current colour scheme (which i like) the text is distinctly hard to read. it was fine on my old CRT monitor. *sigh* sometimes i hate computers, since they seem to make everything so hard. zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness -- modified at 15:37 Sunday 23rd October, 2005

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      since my old 17" CRT monitor would no longer turn its self on reliably i have invested in a new 19" LCD monitor, a "Samsung SyncMaster 193p Plus". initial results show that this is a very nice monitor. however i am having some problems with readability of fonts and ClearType. most of the time ClearType seems to be a good idea, but some of the time i am ending up with text i can hardly read, and other times i am ending up with fuzzy text with the impression of a colour band down the sides of the letters. posting this message in firefox is a good example. the post title text looks clear and sharp, while the post text looks fuzzy around the edges. am i supposed to just learn to live with fuzzy text? it is very uncomfortable, so this is not really an option for me. if i turn off clear type i end up with lots of places where the font is very hard to read. i am hoping i can fix this via windows settings, but what about web sites, and program dialog boxes? VMWare 5 is an easy example. when restoring a snap shot i get a warning message, asking for me to confirm. turning clear type on or off makes no difference to the text in this dialog, and using my current colour scheme (which i like) the text is distinctly hard to read. it was fine on my old CRT monitor. *sigh* sometimes i hate computers, since they seem to make everything so hard. zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness -- modified at 15:37 Sunday 23rd October, 2005

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      Graham Bradshaw
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      Are you running at the native resolution of the monitor (1280 x 1024 I believe). If not, the screen will look awful. LCD monitors are only designed to operate at one resolution. We have LCD monitors in the office, and with ClearType on, they look great, much better than a high-quality CRT.

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        since my old 17" CRT monitor would no longer turn its self on reliably i have invested in a new 19" LCD monitor, a "Samsung SyncMaster 193p Plus". initial results show that this is a very nice monitor. however i am having some problems with readability of fonts and ClearType. most of the time ClearType seems to be a good idea, but some of the time i am ending up with text i can hardly read, and other times i am ending up with fuzzy text with the impression of a colour band down the sides of the letters. posting this message in firefox is a good example. the post title text looks clear and sharp, while the post text looks fuzzy around the edges. am i supposed to just learn to live with fuzzy text? it is very uncomfortable, so this is not really an option for me. if i turn off clear type i end up with lots of places where the font is very hard to read. i am hoping i can fix this via windows settings, but what about web sites, and program dialog boxes? VMWare 5 is an easy example. when restoring a snap shot i get a warning message, asking for me to confirm. turning clear type on or off makes no difference to the text in this dialog, and using my current colour scheme (which i like) the text is distinctly hard to read. it was fine on my old CRT monitor. *sigh* sometimes i hate computers, since they seem to make everything so hard. zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness -- modified at 15:37 Sunday 23rd October, 2005

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        leppie
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        I saw a ClearType 'tuner' app on Microsoft downloads, helped a little on my lappie. xacc-ide 0.0.99-preview7 now with C#, C, C++, IL, XML, Nemerle, IronPython, Perl, Caml, SML, Ruby, Flex, Yacc, Java, Javascript, Lua, Prolog and Boo highlighting support!

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        • F feline_dracoform

          since my old 17" CRT monitor would no longer turn its self on reliably i have invested in a new 19" LCD monitor, a "Samsung SyncMaster 193p Plus". initial results show that this is a very nice monitor. however i am having some problems with readability of fonts and ClearType. most of the time ClearType seems to be a good idea, but some of the time i am ending up with text i can hardly read, and other times i am ending up with fuzzy text with the impression of a colour band down the sides of the letters. posting this message in firefox is a good example. the post title text looks clear and sharp, while the post text looks fuzzy around the edges. am i supposed to just learn to live with fuzzy text? it is very uncomfortable, so this is not really an option for me. if i turn off clear type i end up with lots of places where the font is very hard to read. i am hoping i can fix this via windows settings, but what about web sites, and program dialog boxes? VMWare 5 is an easy example. when restoring a snap shot i get a warning message, asking for me to confirm. turning clear type on or off makes no difference to the text in this dialog, and using my current colour scheme (which i like) the text is distinctly hard to read. it was fine on my old CRT monitor. *sigh* sometimes i hate computers, since they seem to make everything so hard. zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness -- modified at 15:37 Sunday 23rd October, 2005

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          What Graham said, clear type is only going to make a slight difference, if *anything* is fuzzy right away you probably have the wrong resolution set in windows and missed all those countless other discussions here over the years from people who said "Hey why is my shiny new LCD monitor so fuzzy" and were told the same thing;P. (Your native resolution is probably 1280X1024) If it's *still* fuzzy after setting native resolution there is probably something seriously wrong.


          "Hello, hello, what's all this shouting, we'll have no trouble here! This is a Local Shop for Local People, there's nothing for you here!" -Edward Tattsyrup

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            since my old 17" CRT monitor would no longer turn its self on reliably i have invested in a new 19" LCD monitor, a "Samsung SyncMaster 193p Plus". initial results show that this is a very nice monitor. however i am having some problems with readability of fonts and ClearType. most of the time ClearType seems to be a good idea, but some of the time i am ending up with text i can hardly read, and other times i am ending up with fuzzy text with the impression of a colour band down the sides of the letters. posting this message in firefox is a good example. the post title text looks clear and sharp, while the post text looks fuzzy around the edges. am i supposed to just learn to live with fuzzy text? it is very uncomfortable, so this is not really an option for me. if i turn off clear type i end up with lots of places where the font is very hard to read. i am hoping i can fix this via windows settings, but what about web sites, and program dialog boxes? VMWare 5 is an easy example. when restoring a snap shot i get a warning message, asking for me to confirm. turning clear type on or off makes no difference to the text in this dialog, and using my current colour scheme (which i like) the text is distinctly hard to read. it was fine on my old CRT monitor. *sigh* sometimes i hate computers, since they seem to make everything so hard. zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness -- modified at 15:37 Sunday 23rd October, 2005

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            What most people do when moving to a larger monitor is keep the old screen resolution. They try native, but the text is too small, so they move back to the lower screen resolution. The better way is to just always use/test in native resolutions as was mentioned. If the text on the screen is difficult to read, go to the advanced display settings and adjust the DPI up until it is confortable to read. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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            • F feline_dracoform

              since my old 17" CRT monitor would no longer turn its self on reliably i have invested in a new 19" LCD monitor, a "Samsung SyncMaster 193p Plus". initial results show that this is a very nice monitor. however i am having some problems with readability of fonts and ClearType. most of the time ClearType seems to be a good idea, but some of the time i am ending up with text i can hardly read, and other times i am ending up with fuzzy text with the impression of a colour band down the sides of the letters. posting this message in firefox is a good example. the post title text looks clear and sharp, while the post text looks fuzzy around the edges. am i supposed to just learn to live with fuzzy text? it is very uncomfortable, so this is not really an option for me. if i turn off clear type i end up with lots of places where the font is very hard to read. i am hoping i can fix this via windows settings, but what about web sites, and program dialog boxes? VMWare 5 is an easy example. when restoring a snap shot i get a warning message, asking for me to confirm. turning clear type on or off makes no difference to the text in this dialog, and using my current colour scheme (which i like) the text is distinctly hard to read. it was fine on my old CRT monitor. *sigh* sometimes i hate computers, since they seem to make everything so hard. zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness -- modified at 15:37 Sunday 23rd October, 2005

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              Steve McLenithan
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              First make sure you're using the correct native resolution. Second, check the documentation on the supported refresh rates. My LCD actually supports 60, 70, & 75. I was having problems with "scan lines" and fuzzy text until I switched it from 60 to 70 (75 looked bad too).

              Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.

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                What Graham said, clear type is only going to make a slight difference, if *anything* is fuzzy right away you probably have the wrong resolution set in windows and missed all those countless other discussions here over the years from people who said "Hey why is my shiny new LCD monitor so fuzzy" and were told the same thing;P. (Your native resolution is probably 1280X1024) If it's *still* fuzzy after setting native resolution there is probably something seriously wrong.


                "Hello, hello, what's all this shouting, we'll have no trouble here! This is a Local Shop for Local People, there's nothing for you here!" -Edward Tattsyrup

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                John Cardinal wrote:

                If it's *still* fuzzy after setting native resolution there is probably something seriously wrong.

                Yeah - it's called "Windows". ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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