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  • P Paul Watson

    BMW vs. Mercedes Windows vs. Mac Burger King vs. McDonalds Christianity vs. Islam Bush vs. Kerry Slashdot vs. Digg and on CP the C++ chaps outweigh the VB chaps. So VB is therefore crap. You won't get an unbiased VB opinion here. Not even from me as I used to do VB. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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    Nish Nishant
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    Paul Watson wrote:

    and on CP the C++ chaps outweigh the VB chaps. So VB is therefore crap. You won't get an unbiased VB opinion here. Not even from me as I used to do VB.

    Funnily, you might notice how the C#ers are more passionate about bashing VB than C++ers!

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    • P Paul Watson

      BMW vs. Mercedes Windows vs. Mac Burger King vs. McDonalds Christianity vs. Islam Bush vs. Kerry Slashdot vs. Digg and on CP the C++ chaps outweigh the VB chaps. So VB is therefore crap. You won't get an unbiased VB opinion here. Not even from me as I used to do VB. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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      Ahh - so it is mainly just a "religious" thingy. --------------------------- 127.0.0.1 - Sweet 127.0.0.1

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      • A Alsvha

        Granted I do program VB.Net - although not by choice, but it is what we use - but I'm very interested and perplexed by the general dislike towards VB/VB.Net by a number of posters of this site.... Why is that? Something which can be explained? --------------------------- 127.0.0.1 - Sweet 127.0.0.1

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        krism42
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        It doesn't help that the only VB programmer I've known in real life was an arrogant twit who knew nothing. He was also something of a lying, backstabbing weasel. Did I mention that he was arrogant? *shudder* Probably the most arrogant person I've ever met. It's also that VB is often used to do a project "quickly" instead of "the right way."

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          Paul Watson wrote:

          and on CP the C++ chaps outweigh the VB chaps. So VB is therefore crap. You won't get an unbiased VB opinion here. Not even from me as I used to do VB.

          Funnily, you might notice how the C#ers are more passionate about bashing VB than C++ers!

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          Alsvha
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          Proberly because of the closeness of the two languages, "they" feel the need to differentiate themselves more fiercely whereas the C++'ers can do it simply by the langauge elements. :D --------------------------- 127.0.0.1 - Sweet 127.0.0.1

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          • M Marc Clifton

            Alsvha wrote:

            Why is that? Something which can be explained?

            Because many people have experienced that: a) Anything "B" is a terrible language to do anything professional in b) Any "B" language is intended for the "B"giner c) People who code in a "B" language often don't understand important concepts you will find in a "C" language I, for one, have experienced item c over and over again. I have found incredibly poor programming practices, no abstraction, a gross tendency to cut & paste rather than re-use, etc. And yet, these programmers seem to always be employed, in industries like medical insurance management. As a language, I find VB ugly, syntactically confusing, and to some extent belittling in how it coddles (when what I want is coding, not coddling). Marc VS2005 Tips & Tricks -- contributions welcome!

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            Alsvha
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            Marc Clifton wrote:

            As a language, I find VB ugly, syntactically confusing, and to some extent belittling in how it coddles

            This is my main dislike of VB as well (or rather VB.Net, cause I've never tried "old" VB other then VBScript in legacy asp). I actually dislike how verbose it is. --------------------------- 127.0.0.1 - Sweet 127.0.0.1

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            • M Marc Clifton

              Alsvha wrote:

              Why is that? Something which can be explained?

              Because many people have experienced that: a) Anything "B" is a terrible language to do anything professional in b) Any "B" language is intended for the "B"giner c) People who code in a "B" language often don't understand important concepts you will find in a "C" language I, for one, have experienced item c over and over again. I have found incredibly poor programming practices, no abstraction, a gross tendency to cut & paste rather than re-use, etc. And yet, these programmers seem to always be employed, in industries like medical insurance management. As a language, I find VB ugly, syntactically confusing, and to some extent belittling in how it coddles (when what I want is coding, not coddling). Marc VS2005 Tips & Tricks -- contributions welcome!

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              Gary Thom
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              Well said. And I think quoting you in signature form once more is appropriate. :-D Gary Marc Clifton: "In other words, VB is like a bad parent. It can really screw up your childhood."

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              • A Alsvha

                Proberly because of the closeness of the two languages, "they" feel the need to differentiate themselves more fiercely whereas the C++'ers can do it simply by the langauge elements. :D --------------------------- 127.0.0.1 - Sweet 127.0.0.1

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                Alsvha wrote:

                Proberly because of the closeness of the two languages, "they" feel the need to differentiate themselves more fiercely whereas the C++'ers can do it simply by the langauge elements.

                Yeah, C# and VB are pretty similar - which perhaps is why in C# 3.0 they added some complicated looking syntax so people don't confuse it with VB :-)

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                • P Paul Watson

                  BMW vs. Mercedes Windows vs. Mac Burger King vs. McDonalds Christianity vs. Islam Bush vs. Kerry Slashdot vs. Digg and on CP the C++ chaps outweigh the VB chaps. So VB is therefore crap. You won't get an unbiased VB opinion here. Not even from me as I used to do VB. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                  BMW Windows Burger King null null null C# Charlie if(!curlies){ return; }

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    Alsvha wrote:

                    Why is that? Something which can be explained?

                    Because many people have experienced that: a) Anything "B" is a terrible language to do anything professional in b) Any "B" language is intended for the "B"giner c) People who code in a "B" language often don't understand important concepts you will find in a "C" language I, for one, have experienced item c over and over again. I have found incredibly poor programming practices, no abstraction, a gross tendency to cut & paste rather than re-use, etc. And yet, these programmers seem to always be employed, in industries like medical insurance management. As a language, I find VB ugly, syntactically confusing, and to some extent belittling in how it coddles (when what I want is coding, not coddling). Marc VS2005 Tips & Tricks -- contributions welcome!

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                    Turtle Hand
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                    6 years of VB, then a switch to C# and C++. I don't like VB syntax anymore, tt's too verbose and doesn't visually flow as cleanly as C#. It's good to be alive

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Alsvha wrote:

                      Why is that? Something which can be explained?

                      Because many people have experienced that: a) Anything "B" is a terrible language to do anything professional in b) Any "B" language is intended for the "B"giner c) People who code in a "B" language often don't understand important concepts you will find in a "C" language I, for one, have experienced item c over and over again. I have found incredibly poor programming practices, no abstraction, a gross tendency to cut & paste rather than re-use, etc. And yet, these programmers seem to always be employed, in industries like medical insurance management. As a language, I find VB ugly, syntactically confusing, and to some extent belittling in how it coddles (when what I want is coding, not coddling). Marc VS2005 Tips & Tricks -- contributions welcome!

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                      Marc Soleda
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                      Amen, I'd added that it's also syntactically ugly and ambigous ... ... she said you are the perfect stranger she said baby let's keep it like this... Dire Straits

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