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Hello everybody, I want to know under which license source code in codeproject is available. Does every submitter decide whether source code could be used freely in commercial products, or exists a common agreement, that EVERY sourcecode which is available under codeproject could be used freely? I searched hints in FAQs and also on the dependent sites, which contains code I like to use. Should I contact the submitter for that? Please give me an answer to this question. Thanks. Norman-Timo -- modified at 2:59 Wednesday 14th December, 2005
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Hello everybody, I want to know under which license source code in codeproject is available. Does every submitter decide whether source code could be used freely in commercial products, or exists a common agreement, that EVERY sourcecode which is available under codeproject could be used freely? I searched hints in FAQs and also on the dependent sites, which contains code I like to use. Should I contact the submitter for that? Please give me an answer to this question. Thanks. Norman-Timo -- modified at 2:59 Wednesday 14th December, 2005
DISCLAIMER: I am not a lawyer and have nothing to do with CP except being a member and contributing what I can. Please do not take my words as gospel truth. Now we can get to your question. :) If people post code on CP, it's safe to assume you can use it for personal purposes. However, if you plan to use it in public, either commercially or for non-profit use, it's always better to ask the person who wrote the code. Not only will you avoid future hassles, but you're also being polite and considerate. And of course, any author would be happy to know if others are using his work. Cheers, Vikram.
"When I read in books about a "base class", I figured this was the class that was at the bottom of the inheritence tree. It's the "base", right? Like the base of a pyramid." - Marc Clifton.
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Hello everybody, I want to know under which license source code in codeproject is available. Does every submitter decide whether source code could be used freely in commercial products, or exists a common agreement, that EVERY sourcecode which is available under codeproject could be used freely? I searched hints in FAQs and also on the dependent sites, which contains code I like to use. Should I contact the submitter for that? Please give me an answer to this question. Thanks. Norman-Timo -- modified at 2:59 Wednesday 14th December, 2005
There's no common license. As Vikram said, it's always polite to ask the author. If the licensing terms aren't explicitly stated in the article, then it's plain good sense.
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Hello everybody, I want to know under which license source code in codeproject is available. Does every submitter decide whether source code could be used freely in commercial products, or exists a common agreement, that EVERY sourcecode which is available under codeproject could be used freely? I searched hints in FAQs and also on the dependent sites, which contains code I like to use. Should I contact the submitter for that? Please give me an answer to this question. Thanks. Norman-Timo -- modified at 2:59 Wednesday 14th December, 2005
By default all articles and associated source code are copyrighted to the author. That happens whether they say so or not (however CodeProject do put a copyright notice at the bottom of the page anyway). All the articles and code I submit to Code Project I do so for educational purposes. I don't expect the code to be useful on its own, but it should demonstrate a technique that is useful. I obviously cannot speak for other authors. At the end of the day you should always ask the author for permission. As to the article itself (which is slighty OT): I take my rights as an author seriously and I now post at the bottom of the article exactly where I've authorised it to appear. I have sent emails to people to remove copyright violations from their website and it has worked - so far I've never had to escalate it. I hope this helps.
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By default all articles and associated source code are copyrighted to the author. That happens whether they say so or not (however CodeProject do put a copyright notice at the bottom of the page anyway). All the articles and code I submit to Code Project I do so for educational purposes. I don't expect the code to be useful on its own, but it should demonstrate a technique that is useful. I obviously cannot speak for other authors. At the end of the day you should always ask the author for permission. As to the article itself (which is slighty OT): I take my rights as an author seriously and I now post at the bottom of the article exactly where I've authorised it to appear. I have sent emails to people to remove copyright violations from their website and it has worked - so far I've never had to escalate it. I hope this helps.
My: Blog | Photos "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucious
The problem is that any code you release here will be used by someone, somewhere for commercial use. You cannot stop this, so I generally think that if you release any source code then you should expect (allow) it to be used commercially, because someone will - and they probably won't ask for permission. regards,
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The problem is that any code you release here will be used by someone, somewhere for commercial use. You cannot stop this, so I generally think that if you release any source code then you should expect (allow) it to be used commercially, because someone will - and they probably won't ask for permission. regards,
No - the actions of dishonest people should not impact the rights and responsibilities of honest people. I agree with above that you should: * seek permission to use any substantial code from this or any other site in a commercial product * acknowledge the original author and also acknowledge any help you get Most authors will give permission for their code to be used in a comercial product if asked and the "please and thankyou" transactions guarantees that they will be more likely to improve that article as and when they can and that benefits us all. Also : if you use code from here without permission you expose your employer to a (admintedly small) litigation risk. Most employers take a very dim view of this so in the long run it isn't worth doing. '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd
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No - the actions of dishonest people should not impact the rights and responsibilities of honest people. I agree with above that you should: * seek permission to use any substantial code from this or any other site in a commercial product * acknowledge the original author and also acknowledge any help you get Most authors will give permission for their code to be used in a comercial product if asked and the "please and thankyou" transactions guarantees that they will be more likely to improve that article as and when they can and that benefits us all. Also : if you use code from here without permission you expose your employer to a (admintedly small) litigation risk. Most employers take a very dim view of this so in the long run it isn't worth doing. '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd
I suspect that most honest developers would ask as they would not like their own work 'stolen' but in reality I think that most people would just use the code anyway, which is why I do not set any restrictions on any source code I release, except that they should not remove the copyright message (which they probably will anyway). -- modified at 5:02 Wednesday 14th December, 2005
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The problem is that any code you release here will be used by someone, somewhere for commercial use. You cannot stop this, so I generally think that if you release any source code then you should expect (allow) it to be used commercially, because someone will - and they probably won't ask for permission. regards,
Darka wrote:
any code you release here will be used by someone, somewhere for commercial use
The code I release here would not be suitable for commercial use. As I've said already, the code I release is for educational pursposes. It has no commercial benefit other than a learning tool. I realise that others might post code that is more pluggable than the code I post and that is up to them whether they want to do that or not. My comments about taking my rights seriously were in regard to the article itself because that takes me much longer to put together than the code.
Darka wrote:
I generally think that if you release any source code then you should expect (allow) it to be used commercially, because someone will - and they probably won't ask for permission
So, by that token musicians should just give away their work because someone will copy it anyway, so they might as well just allow it to begin with.
My: Blog | Photos "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucious
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Darka wrote:
any code you release here will be used by someone, somewhere for commercial use
The code I release here would not be suitable for commercial use. As I've said already, the code I release is for educational pursposes. It has no commercial benefit other than a learning tool. I realise that others might post code that is more pluggable than the code I post and that is up to them whether they want to do that or not. My comments about taking my rights seriously were in regard to the article itself because that takes me much longer to put together than the code.
Darka wrote:
I generally think that if you release any source code then you should expect (allow) it to be used commercially, because someone will - and they probably won't ask for permission
So, by that token musicians should just give away their work because someone will copy it anyway, so they might as well just allow it to begin with.
My: Blog | Photos "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucious
Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
My comments about taking my rights seriously were in regard to the article itself because that takes me much longer to put together than the code
I like many others do take rights seriously, just stating that I am sure that many others do not.
Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
So, by that token musicians should just give away their work because someone will copy it anyway, so they might as well just allow it to begin with.
Of course not, just stating that people will use the code in a commercial product whether you want them to or not.
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DISCLAIMER: I am not a lawyer and have nothing to do with CP except being a member and contributing what I can. Please do not take my words as gospel truth. Now we can get to your question. :) If people post code on CP, it's safe to assume you can use it for personal purposes. However, if you plan to use it in public, either commercially or for non-profit use, it's always better to ask the person who wrote the code. Not only will you avoid future hassles, but you're also being polite and considerate. And of course, any author would be happy to know if others are using his work. Cheers, Vikram.
"When I read in books about a "base class", I figured this was the class that was at the bottom of the inheritence tree. It's the "base", right? Like the base of a pyramid." - Marc Clifton.
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The problem is that any code you release here will be used by someone, somewhere for commercial use. You cannot stop this, so I generally think that if you release any source code then you should expect (allow) it to be used commercially, because someone will - and they probably won't ask for permission. regards,
I agree, except for the word 'allow'. Cheers, Vikram.
"When I read in books about a "base class", I figured this was the class that was at the bottom of the inheritence tree. It's the "base", right? Like the base of a pyramid." - Marc Clifton.
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Hello everybody, I want to know under which license source code in codeproject is available. Does every submitter decide whether source code could be used freely in commercial products, or exists a common agreement, that EVERY sourcecode which is available under codeproject could be used freely? I searched hints in FAQs and also on the dependent sites, which contains code I like to use. Should I contact the submitter for that? Please give me an answer to this question. Thanks. Norman-Timo -- modified at 2:59 Wednesday 14th December, 2005
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Hello everybody, I want to know under which license source code in codeproject is available. Does every submitter decide whether source code could be used freely in commercial products, or exists a common agreement, that EVERY sourcecode which is available under codeproject could be used freely? I searched hints in FAQs and also on the dependent sites, which contains code I like to use. Should I contact the submitter for that? Please give me an answer to this question. Thanks. Norman-Timo -- modified at 2:59 Wednesday 14th December, 2005
It's good manners to ask the author plus you might get additional information on the software. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
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Hello everybody, I want to know under which license source code in codeproject is available. Does every submitter decide whether source code could be used freely in commercial products, or exists a common agreement, that EVERY sourcecode which is available under codeproject could be used freely? I searched hints in FAQs and also on the dependent sites, which contains code I like to use. Should I contact the submitter for that? Please give me an answer to this question. Thanks. Norman-Timo -- modified at 2:59 Wednesday 14th December, 2005
Norman-Timo wrote:
I want to know under which license source code in codeproject is available. Does every submitter decide whether source code could be used freely in commercial products, or exists a common agreement, that EVERY sourcecode which is available under codeproject could be used freely?
read the submission guidelines. http://www.codeproject.com/info/submit.asp I'm quoting an excerpt.
Submission Guidelines:
If you post to CodeProject then you retain copyright of your article and code. You also give CodeProject permission to use it in a fair manner and also permit other developers to use the sourcecode associated with your articles in their own applications as long as they do not remove your copyright notices or try and take credit for your work.
The last phrase could use clarifying. Does it mean you must include using CoderY's CopmponentX in your documentation somewhere, or just that you can't start selling your own ImprovedComponentX to other developers.
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I suspect that most honest developers would ask as they would not like their own work 'stolen' but in reality I think that most people would just use the code anyway, which is why I do not set any restrictions on any source code I release, except that they should not remove the copyright message (which they probably will anyway). -- modified at 5:02 Wednesday 14th December, 2005
Darka wrote:
in reality I think that most people would just use the code anyway
Then they are common criminals and had better not work for me. They would be umemployeed very quickly if I found out.
Darka wrote:
which is why I do not set any restrictions on any source code I release
Well, unless you state no restriction. Then the permissions are unknown. And would have to be address prior to usage. "Simplicity is more complicated than you think. But it’s well worth it” (Ron Jeffries)
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Hello everybody, I want to know under which license source code in codeproject is available. Does every submitter decide whether source code could be used freely in commercial products, or exists a common agreement, that EVERY sourcecode which is available under codeproject could be used freely? I searched hints in FAQs and also on the dependent sites, which contains code I like to use. Should I contact the submitter for that? Please give me an answer to this question. Thanks. Norman-Timo -- modified at 2:59 Wednesday 14th December, 2005
Just a side note, you need to make sure just how long you can use the code in a commercial app. There have been a few project that start off here on CP as freely licensed for public and commercial apps and then a little while down the road the author changes the licensing model to restrict commercial apps and then you are dead in the water or at the very least could face some legal wranglings. I personally, seldom if every, use any code that is not licensed under BSD just to free myself from future problems. Rocky <>< Latest Post: SQL2005 Server Managemnet Studio timeouts! Blog: www.RockyMoore.com/TheCoder/[^]
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Hello everybody, I want to know under which license source code in codeproject is available. Does every submitter decide whether source code could be used freely in commercial products, or exists a common agreement, that EVERY sourcecode which is available under codeproject could be used freely? I searched hints in FAQs and also on the dependent sites, which contains code I like to use. Should I contact the submitter for that? Please give me an answer to this question. Thanks. Norman-Timo -- modified at 2:59 Wednesday 14th December, 2005
Hello everyboy, I didn't thought that my question effected so much response. But now I know there's no common license system for CP posted source code. And I got the mention, that I better have to ask author before I use his source in commercial products ;-) I wanted to clarify that fact. Before I illegally use code, I would ask the author, of course. Thanx for replyments, very good community here :-) Norman-Timo