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I wanna develop an Operating system!

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  • O Owner drawn

    vikas amin wrote:

    Why dont u keep it OwnerX? or say nanX?

    Nope. MyNam will be replaced with my name minus the last letter.

    vikas amin wrote:

    The name of the OS should be somthing related to the operation of ur OS.

    How is Linux related to it's operation.

    vikas amin wrote:

    R U going to do this single handed?

    Yeap no partnerships. He he.;P

    Love Forgives--Love Gives--Jesus is Love :)

    --Owner Drawn --Nothing special --Defeat is temporary but surrender is permanent --Never say quits --Jesus is Lord

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    vikas amin
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    I am not interested but its difficult as i tried it. anthing without a productive result ends up in grave :cool: Vikas Amin Embin Technology Bombay vikas.amin@embin.com

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    • J J Dunlap

      Write it in .NET! :-D

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      S Douglas
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      J. Dunlap wrote:

      Write it in .NET

      To late already been done. Singularity[^] Although it would be nice to see a fully functional managed OS.


      ZeePain! wrote:

      This seems like one of those programs that started small, grew incrementally, building internal pressure, and finally barfed all over its source code sneakers. Or something.

      thedailywtf.com[^]

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        Michael P Butler wrote:

        It'll help change your mind.

        :zzz:

        Love Forgives--Love Gives--Jesus is Love :)

        --Owner Drawn --Nothing special --Defeat is temporary but surrender is permanent --Never say quits --Jesus is Lord

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        Anders Molin
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        It's actually a great book :) - Anders

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        • O Owner drawn

          vikas amin wrote:

          I dont think that u would like to do that single handed .

          Had Linus Torvalds thought like that then there would have been no Linux today. Hmm... I am thinking of a name for my OS. Linus --> Linux Hmm...:doh: MyNamX:cool::rose:

          Love Forgives--Love Gives--Jesus is Love :)

          --Owner Drawn --Nothing special --Defeat is temporary but surrender is permanent --Never say quits --Jesus is Lord

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          Rohde
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          Owner drawn wrote:

          Had Linus Torvalds thought like that then there would have been no Linux today.

          Well, Linus didn't start from scratch as you seem to want to do. And there's no need for you to do that. Why don't you take a look at Minix, or Darwin, or OpenSolaris, and look for ways to extend one of those. Then along the way you can change the core to suit your needs - just like Linus did with Minix which eventually became Linux.

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            It's actually a great book :) - Anders

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            Michael P Butler
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            Anders Molin wrote:

            It's actually a great book

            It is a wonderful read. Sadly, I lent my copy to a former workmate and never got it back. It's my favourite book about Microsoft. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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              vikas amin wrote:

              I dont think that u would like to do that single handed .

              Had Linus Torvalds thought like that then there would have been no Linux today. Hmm... I am thinking of a name for my OS. Linus --> Linux Hmm...:doh: MyNamX:cool::rose:

              Love Forgives--Love Gives--Jesus is Love :)

              --Owner Drawn --Nothing special --Defeat is temporary but surrender is permanent --Never say quits --Jesus is Lord

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              Daniel Grunwald
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              Owner drawn wrote:

              Had Linus Torvalds thought like that then there would have been no Linux today.

              Linus just wrote the kernel. The rest of the OS (C compiler, command line tools, etc.) were already done by the GNU project. Do you really want to write your own OS? Own memory management, own threading support? Own C runtime? Own compiler(s)? Own user interface? Own applications (like file manager etc.)? Nobody can do ALL of that.

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                Owner drawn wrote:

                Had Linus Torvalds thought like that then there would have been no Linux today.

                Linus just wrote the kernel. The rest of the OS (C compiler, command line tools, etc.) were already done by the GNU project. Do you really want to write your own OS? Own memory management, own threading support? Own C runtime? Own compiler(s)? Own user interface? Own applications (like file manager etc.)? Nobody can do ALL of that.

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                Owner drawn
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                Daniel Grunwald wrote:

                Linus just wrote the kernel.

                Just want to do this. It's fun. Thanks for the suggestions. You'll get a copy.:-D

                Love Forgives--Love Gives--Jesus is Love :)

                --Owner Drawn --Nothing special --Defeat is temporary but surrender is permanent --Never say quits --Jesus is Lord

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                  Owner drawn wrote:

                  Had Linus Torvalds thought like that then there would have been no Linux today.

                  Well, Linus didn't start from scratch as you seem to want to do. And there's no need for you to do that. Why don't you take a look at Minix, or Darwin, or OpenSolaris, and look for ways to extend one of those. Then along the way you can change the core to suit your needs - just like Linus did with Minix which eventually became Linux.

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                  Owner drawn
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                  This is what I wanted. I wanted suggestions before I start off. I liked yours. Thanks mate.

                  Rohde wrote:

                  Why don't you take a look at Minix, or Darwin, or OpenSolaris, and look for ways to extend one of those

                  I am doing that. Breaking my head over them. Any books you can suggest. I would love it.

                  Love Forgives--Love Gives--Jesus is Love :)

                  --Owner Drawn --Nothing special --Defeat is temporary but surrender is permanent --Never say quits --Jesus is Lord

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                  • L Lost User

                    Owner drawn wrote:

                    Once done I will be sending a copy to all of you.

                    I wont be holding my breath I have taken a vow of poverty. If you want to really piss me off, send me money.

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                    Gary Thom
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                    Josh Gray wrote:

                    I have taken a vow of poverty. If you want to really piss me off, send me money.

                    I love it :laugh: Gary Flickr Photos[^]

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                    • S S Douglas

                      J. Dunlap wrote:

                      Write it in .NET

                      To late already been done. Singularity[^] Although it would be nice to see a fully functional managed OS.


                      ZeePain! wrote:

                      This seems like one of those programs that started small, grew incrementally, building internal pressure, and finally barfed all over its source code sneakers. Or something.

                      thedailywtf.com[^]

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                      Super Lloyd
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                      I'm afraid Singularity will never make it out of the lab... It's a competitor to Windows from Microsoft you're talking about...

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                        :wtf: He he Any tips? Hmmm... I am expecting lot's of fireworks.:sigh: Once done I will be sending a copy to all of you.:):-D:laugh:

                        Love Forgives--Love Gives--Jesus is Love :)

                        --Owner Drawn --Nothing special --Defeat is temporary but surrender is permanent --Never say quits --Jesus is Lord

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                        RaviBee
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                        If you're serious, check out this[^] book for starters. Browsing through thru the Linux source code can also be educational, though not easy. /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                          :wtf: He he Any tips? Hmmm... I am expecting lot's of fireworks.:sigh: Once done I will be sending a copy to all of you.:):-D:laugh:

                          Love Forgives--Love Gives--Jesus is Love :)

                          --Owner Drawn --Nothing special --Defeat is temporary but surrender is permanent --Never say quits --Jesus is Lord

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                          Jeremy Falcon
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                          Don't listen to the nay-sayers. After all, Linux started with just one person. I say however, its gonna require a lot of study, and I mean A LOT. And plenty of work -- too much for one person in fact. It's best to either start a group or join one if you want to make a full-fledged OS. If you're looking to join one, then this project would surely love help and you can learn so much from then. http://www.reactos.org/xhtml/en/index.html[^] Jeremy Falcon

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                            Owner drawn wrote:

                            Had Linus Torvalds thought like that then there would have been no Linux today.

                            Well, Linus didn't start from scratch as you seem to want to do. And there's no need for you to do that. Why don't you take a look at Minix, or Darwin, or OpenSolaris, and look for ways to extend one of those. Then along the way you can change the core to suit your needs - just like Linus did with Minix which eventually became Linux.

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                            Rohde
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                            Well, if you'd like to build your own kernel. Which I guess you'd want to at some point. The book "Hackin the Linux Kernel" is quite good. Of course it's specific to Linux but you will learn a helluva lot about the organization of an OS kernel even if your own design is very different from Linux/Unix/Minix/Solaris/Darwin. And you also need all the theoretical knowledge you can get from books like Tannenbaum's "Modern Operating Systems", or Silberschatz's "Operating System Concepts". I like the latter, but many enjoy, well love even, Tannenbaum so your mileage may wary. I've heard good stuf about Stalling's "Operating Systems : Internals and Design Principles" as well, but I have not read it so I cannot really comment on that one. There's also "Writing Your Own Toy OS" to get you started: Writing Your Own Toy OS (Part I) http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue77/krishnakumar.html[^] Writing Your Own Toy OS (PART II) http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue79/krishnakumar.html[^] Writing your own Toy OS - Part III http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue82/raghu.html[^] -- modified at 8:23 Thursday 5th January, 2006

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                              I'm afraid Singularity will never make it out of the lab... It's a competitor to Windows from Microsoft you're talking about...

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                              S Douglas
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                              Super Lloyd wrote:

                              It's a competitor to Windows

                              The chanel9 presentations I saw showed an OS that wasn’t capable of really anything. They have a few hard coded apps to do specific tasks (no UI) and not much of a framework to extend it. I just think the idea is interesting that’s all.


                              ZeePain! wrote:

                              This seems like one of those programs that started small, grew incrementally, building internal pressure, and finally barfed all over its source code sneakers. Or something.

                              thedailywtf.com[^]

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                                Super Lloyd wrote:

                                It's a competitor to Windows

                                The chanel9 presentations I saw showed an OS that wasn’t capable of really anything. They have a few hard coded apps to do specific tasks (no UI) and not much of a framework to extend it. I just think the idea is interesting that’s all.


                                ZeePain! wrote:

                                This seems like one of those programs that started small, grew incrementally, building internal pressure, and finally barfed all over its source code sneakers. Or something.

                                thedailywtf.com[^]

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                                Super Lloyd
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                                sfdougl wrote:

                                The chanel9 presentations I saw showed an OS that wasn’t capable of really anything

                                Well you've got to start somewhere.... And the same channel9 video I saw as well plus a few paper I read too explained clearly that was a complete OS kernel, it was already capable of: - managing device (interruption)(including keyboard, screen, mouse , network card, hard drives and had an extensible C# driver framework) - was able to launch and kill process & thread and manage their resources. What else are you expecting from an OS Kernel? Everything else is user level addition...

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                                  :wtf: He he Any tips? Hmmm... I am expecting lot's of fireworks.:sigh: Once done I will be sending a copy to all of you.:):-D:laugh:

                                  Love Forgives--Love Gives--Jesus is Love :)

                                  --Owner Drawn --Nothing special --Defeat is temporary but surrender is permanent --Never say quits --Jesus is Lord

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                                  Jonathan Darka
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                                  Owner drawn wrote:

                                  Once done I will be sending a copy to all of you

                                  That's all I need, another virus ! :~

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                                    sfdougl wrote:

                                    The chanel9 presentations I saw showed an OS that wasn’t capable of really anything

                                    Well you've got to start somewhere.... And the same channel9 video I saw as well plus a few paper I read too explained clearly that was a complete OS kernel, it was already capable of: - managing device (interruption)(including keyboard, screen, mouse , network card, hard drives and had an extensible C# driver framework) - was able to launch and kill process & thread and manage their resources. What else are you expecting from an OS Kernel? Everything else is user level addition...

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                                    S Douglas
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                                    Super Lloyd wrote:

                                    What else are you expecting from an OS Kernel?

                                    :) A full OS Seriously, Im sure that some of the code base from this project will end up in Windows, or at least concepts.


                                    ZeePain! wrote:

                                    This seems like one of those programs that started small, grew incrementally, building internal pressure, and finally barfed all over its source code sneakers. Or something.

                                    thedailywtf.com[^]

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                                      J. Dunlap wrote:

                                      Write it in .NET

                                      To late already been done. Singularity[^] Although it would be nice to see a fully functional managed OS.


                                      ZeePain! wrote:

                                      This seems like one of those programs that started small, grew incrementally, building internal pressure, and finally barfed all over its source code sneakers. Or something.

                                      thedailywtf.com[^]

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                                      J Dunlap
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                                      That's what I was thinking of when I said it. I think it's awesome. I watched the whole video when it came out, and that's somewhat rare for me because I don't have a lot of time on my hands. Build .NET into the OS and you have some major performance improvements and a lot of new possibilities. I doubt that Singularity will be developed into anything fully functional though, but I hope I'm wrong.

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                                        My take was "stop telling me to quit smoking". But it could be anything. I'm getting paranoid reading the forums nowdays, re-reading each word, adding likely letters to try and make sense of it all. Maybe it's "never say quilts"?

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                                        Blake Miller
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                                        Maybe it is 'never sew quilts', which would truly be a shame. Marriage slows down your coding, a baby slows it down even more!

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                                        • P ProffK

                                          How about selling coffee to humans? Then you have a business model that may be realised by about 2020. The DJ's took pills to stay awake and play for seven days. - Jim Morrison, Black Polished Chrome.

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                                          Blake Miller
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                                          StarBucks has already done that. Marriage slows down your coding, a baby slows it down even more!

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