Could he become the next US president?
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No, not Abramoff. The other one.[^]
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*shrug* I'd have voted for him in the last election. So of course, there's no chance that he'll ever end up on the ballot. The real question for 2008 is, will the Democrats step up to the plate and find an even worse candidate than Kerry, or are they gonna have to rely on a popular 3rd-party to step in and help them lose?
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I knew you would stick your nose in. As usual you have nothing to contribute. Why is my responce uncivilised when he had already refered to my parents as bad smelling Hippies? I have taken a vow of poverty. If you want to really piss me off, send me money.
Josh Gray wrote:
Why is my responce uncivilised when he had already refered to my parents as bad smelling Hippies?
He got beat up by a kid from Mexico. Mexico! And here you are, still picking on him. Doesn't that seem even a little shameful to you?
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Josh Gray wrote:
Why is my responce uncivilised when he had already refered to my parents as bad smelling Hippies?
He got beat up by a kid from Mexico. Mexico! And here you are, still picking on him. Doesn't that seem even a little shameful to you?
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I knew you would stick your nose in. As usual you have nothing to contribute. Why is my responce uncivilised when he had already refered to my parents as bad smelling Hippies? I have taken a vow of poverty. If you want to really piss me off, send me money.
Josh Gray wrote:
I knew you would stick your nose in. As usual you have nothing to contribute.
:zzz:
Josh Gray wrote:
Why is my responce uncivilised when he had already refered to my parents as bad smelling Hippies?
I was pointing out that you usually start an argument by throwing a personal attack. Not to say that what kgaddy said was right, but if i remeber correctly, you started the argument by running down kgaddy's mom. And, what Stan Shannon done to personally attack you, when you called him a lunatic Here[^] ? "When only the police have guns, it's called a Police State."
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Josh Gray wrote:
I knew you would stick your nose in. As usual you have nothing to contribute.
:zzz:
Josh Gray wrote:
Why is my responce uncivilised when he had already refered to my parents as bad smelling Hippies?
I was pointing out that you usually start an argument by throwing a personal attack. Not to say that what kgaddy said was right, but if i remeber correctly, you started the argument by running down kgaddy's mom. And, what Stan Shannon done to personally attack you, when you called him a lunatic Here[^] ? "When only the police have guns, it's called a Police State."
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
by running down kgaddy's mom
No i just asked him about the quote he was using. Any sane person that read Stans posts would conclude that he is a lunatic. I have taken a vow of poverty. If you want to really piss me off, send me money.
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Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
by running down kgaddy's mom
No i just asked him about the quote he was using. Any sane person that read Stans posts would conclude that he is a lunatic. I have taken a vow of poverty. If you want to really piss me off, send me money.
Josh Gray wrote:
No i just asked him about the quote he was using.
I thought it was an inflamatory remark. I apologize if I misunderstood.
Josh Gray wrote:
Any sane person that read Stans posts would conclude that he is a lunatic.
I do not think he is a lunatic, but i doubt you think i am a sane person. "When only the police have guns, it's called a Police State."
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Josh Gray wrote:
No i just asked him about the quote he was using.
I thought it was an inflamatory remark. I apologize if I misunderstood.
Josh Gray wrote:
Any sane person that read Stans posts would conclude that he is a lunatic.
I do not think he is a lunatic, but i doubt you think i am a sane person. "When only the police have guns, it's called a Police State."
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
but i doubt you think i am a sane person.
You are just a product of your up bringing. No offence but at 15 you still have a lof of growing up to do (so do I at almost twice your age) and over time you opinions will probably mature and change as you have different experiances in life and come accros people with different back grounds. I have taken a vow of poverty. If you want to really piss me off, send me money.
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Yes. Yes, I could. "we must lose precision to make significant statements about complex systems." -deKorvin on uncertainty
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Mate, Im an Aussie. Grotesque insults are a national past time :) These guys need a sence of humor. I have taken a vow of poverty. If you want to really piss me off, send me money.
It's all good. Things would get pretty dull if the forum was limited *strictly* to US politics... :)
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*shrug* I'd have voted for him in the last election. So of course, there's no chance that he'll ever end up on the ballot. The real question for 2008 is, will the Democrats step up to the plate and find an even worse candidate than Kerry, or are they gonna have to rely on a popular 3rd-party to step in and help them lose?
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Shog9 wrote:
The real question for 2008 is, will the Democrats step up to the plate and find an even worse candidate than Kerry, or are they gonna have to rely on a popular 3rd-party to step in and help them lose?
Isnt Hillary Duff, ops I mean Clinton, going to run for them? I have taken a vow of poverty. If you want to really piss me off, send me money.
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Josh Gray wrote:
Did your mum really tell you that? I pitty you if you grew up with that kind of attitude from your parents.
Yes she did. I had the best childhood. My mom did not tolerate any of us fighting unless we had to defend ourselves. I was told that when I did not defend myself at school with a older kid. He was from Mexico. And she was right. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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Yes. Yes, I could. "we must lose precision to make significant statements about complex systems." -deKorvin on uncertainty
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As has already been opined, McCain would not / will not make it through the primary process. He may have been a decent president had he beaten GWB the first time but he is absolutely not thye man for today: The circumstances that make him a hero (POW) make him weaker than he needs to be in today's world climate. He (my opinion) has delusions of granduer believeing that being a war time pilot and POW somehow gives him military insight greater than that of the generals who actually run the military - the equivalent of an elevator operator believing he can run the Otis Elevator Company. Far too willing to play politics and compromise. Mike "We ain't stuck on stupid." badass Lt. General Russel Honore **"Remember - live bunnies are a great source of nourishment"**silly-assed cartoon A vegan is someone who never heard a carrot cry! I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
Here parties generally choose the one who has the biggest chances to be elected. So even if he becomes more popular in the global electorate than any other member of his party, he won't succeed to win the primary process? What are the common rules to be chosen during the primaries?
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Tim Craig wrote:
Better than Bush who used daddy's influence to get into a National Guard unit that was never going to Viet Nam and then spending most of his time AWOL on political outings and partying.
This is so wrong. Bush was never AWOL. When he asked to go to Alabama and help with Campaigning, the Air Guard was trying to get rid of it's overflow of pilots. Vietnam was winding down and going to Alabama was doing the TANG a favor. It worked out for both parties. This story has been beat to death. Ask Dan Rather about it. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
It is so strange that at a time where people were drafted to go to war, someone who enlisted in the Army in 1968, 5 years before the end of the war, but never saw the front line.
kgaddy wrote:
When he asked to go to Alabama and help with Campaigning, the Air Guard was trying to get rid of it's overflow of pilots
Wasn't Bush a certified Pilot since 1970?
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It's all good. Things would get pretty dull if the forum was limited *strictly* to US politics... :)
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Here parties generally choose the one who has the biggest chances to be elected. So even if he becomes more popular in the global electorate than any other member of his party, he won't succeed to win the primary process? What are the common rules to be chosen during the primaries?
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K(arl) wrote:
So even if he becomes more popular in the global electorate than any other member of his party, he won't succeed to win the primary process?
Sorry for causing the idiocy on the "No" portion of this thread. No, he wouldn't at least not in the current polarized environment. The reason is that the primary process is to select the candidate who will run for election under the banner of a particular party. The way the 2 parties are currently configured, Republicans with a solid conservative core and Democrats with a solid liberal core, the activists of each party represent those cores (or extremes if your real position is that of a moderate). T The primary process draws out the core constituiency, the commited believers, and that eliminates McCain as a viable GOP candidate this time just as it eliminated Leiberman (a conservative Democrat in the mold of John F. Kennedy) in the last election primary cycle for the Democrats. fyi - just as many Democrats would vote for McCain (depending on who the Democrat candidate was) I would have seriously considered voting for Leiberman (depending on who the Republican candidate was). So the process cuts both ways and pretty well assures that each party candidate will represent an initially extreme choice. However to win the election the candidate must appeal to the middle so they always moderate their stance during the real election cycle (following the primaries). Mike "We ain't stuck on stupid." badass Lt. General Russel Honore **"Remember - live bunnies are a great source of nourishment"**silly-assed cartoon A vegan is someone who never heard a carrot cry! I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year -- modified at 8:48 Friday 6th January, 2006
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It is so strange that at a time where people were drafted to go to war, someone who enlisted in the Army in 1968, 5 years before the end of the war, but never saw the front line.
kgaddy wrote:
When he asked to go to Alabama and help with Campaigning, the Air Guard was trying to get rid of it's overflow of pilots
Wasn't Bush a certified Pilot since 1970?
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K(arl) wrote:
Wasn't Bush a certified Pilot since 1970?
Karl, the truth about Vietnam is that by 1970 there was a waiting list to get into non-ground combat positions. In 1972, I volunteered to serve on river patrol boat duty - I was told that there were at least ten thousand volunteers already waiting in line for the same duty. Bush probably could not have gotten into Vietnam regardless of how badly he might have wanted to. His service as an air guard pilot was just as honorable as that of any of the tens of thousands of people who served in the guard, reserves, navy and air force who never got any where near combat in vietnam. Most of whom were not the sons of rich families, but just regular middle class volunteers - such as myself . "Patriotism is the first refuge of a patriot."
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- Get on the ballot in NH and IA
- Get McCain so angry that he punched me in the face, winning the support of neo-conservatives
- Get Kerry so angry that he punched me in the face, winning the hearts of moderates
- Get Cheney so angry at me that his daughter punched me in the face, winning the hearts of decent people everywhere
- Win either primary
- Stump
- Win a majority of the electoral colleges' votes
- Move into 1600 Pennsylvania Drive!
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- Get a job with Diebold
- Change the source code for their voting machines
- Profit!
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- Join the secret society that rules the world!
- Rule the world!
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Shog9 wrote:
The real question for 2008 is, will the Democrats step up to the plate and find an even worse candidate than Kerry, or are they gonna have to rely on a popular 3rd-party to step in and help them lose?
Isnt Hillary Duff, ops I mean Clinton, going to run for them? I have taken a vow of poverty. If you want to really piss me off, send me money.
From the opinion articles that I've read, H. Clinton would lose the election for the Democrats. Supposedly, the analysts remark, her positions represent too moderate of a view for Democrats and ALL Republicans hate her. "we must lose precision to make significant statements about complex systems." -deKorvin on uncertainty
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Now that you've read my lists, do you understand the hyperbole contained in my first post. 'T was merely a joke, sir. "we must lose precision to make significant statements about complex systems." -deKorvin on uncertainty