Protesting Air Strikes
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I've never felt it was a good idea to make terrorism an issue about a handful of individuals such as Osama. As we saw again in yet another incident, it is virtually impossible to track them down over such vast regions where they enjoy so much support. Yet, while I do not entirely agree with every decision my government makes, I nonetheless support it. For all of its many mistakes, the US has always been a force for good in the world. We still are. I certainly do not believe that President Bush is the best leader we could have wished for to manage this situtation. But regardless of who held that office now, these kinds of mistakes would still be occuring. There is simply no way to avoid them. The future of the Islamic world is entirely up to the people of Islam. But the US is simple no longer going to tolerate the notion that your civilization can blithfully disregard the existence of mass murderers, that it feels free to generate them and spew them around the world. We will deal with that threat in what ever manner we deem most appropriate. The very last thing we should concern ourselves with is who we are making angry and why. "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself" -- modified at 7:24 Monday 16th January, 2006
Stan Shannon wrote:
I certainly do not believe that President Bush is the best leader we could have wished for to manage this situtation. But regardless of who held that office now, these kinds of mistakes would still be occuring. There is simply no way to
you guys have fear to see the other part of coin ,thatswhy most of americans including you trust in his words blindly,he dont have charismatic personality that everyone gets fooled by him.
Stan Shannon wrote:
The future of the Islamic world is entirely up to the people of Islam
alas,i wish your words were true,present and past of islamic counteries were in hands of puppets,controlled by US,who looked towards America as they had to seek help from God, i again say that its stupidity to abuse US and ignoring what muslims rulers have done to fuck muslim citzens around the globe,outside can`t do anything unless someone from home help him out and yes many locals(govt ppl) have been helping america since long,these leaders were already supported by US,that is supporting the dictatorship,look at the history of muslim rules around the country and their tenure,recenltly king of kuwait died and he ruled for God damn 21 years,same for UAE,KSA,Oman etc,pakistan dont have kingdom but same agenda is followed that is "Kiss up america",unless ppl get educated,they would keep suffering and americans also know this fact the current generation of muslim extreemist was supported 25 years back at time of USSR war,they have become spoilt brats now they dont listen to others,if they were not given chance to do anything at tht time,we wouldn`t have seen this situation,today`s rascals were darling of USA in past.
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Paul Watson wrote:
Show some sympathy, admit the mistake and move on.
No, I won't do that. The Pakistanis would not need to concern themselves with American mistakes if thier population did not general support the terrorism inflicted upon us. Read Adnan's posts. It is entirely hopeless trying to get through to him. And he, one would assume, is a person of education and intelligence. That part is not our fault at all, and the kind of mistakes made in this instance are inevitable. I have no problem admiting the mistakes the US has made. But I also do not believe in making excuses for the people of the Islamic world. They have a responsibility which they are making no effort at all to fulfil. They are a freer, healthier, more independent people today than they have ever been due primarily to the existence of the US. For all of our mistakes, we have done far more good than harm around the world, including the middle east. It seems we might be forgiven for being a bit less than perfect from time to time. If the first priority of the US is to never make any one angry, than we will simply never be able to defend ourselves. Frankly, I think Pakistan should have been either invaded or largely carpet bombed long ago. In the long run, I see no other way to deal successfully with terrorism than taking out all of its bases of support by direct, brute force. "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself"
Stan Shannon wrote:
Read Adnan's posts. It is entirely hopeless trying to get through to him. And he, one would assume, is a person of education and intelligence. That part is not our fault at all, and the kind of mistakes made in this instance are inevitable.
what made you to make such comment about me?would yo like to elaborate??just coz i am not following your theory?
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Why not just send in soldiers?
Because Pakistan wouldn't have let them in? Just guessing.
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Air strikes are faster, and with the weapns they use, they are much more capable of the benefit of a surprise visit. The U.S. would not intentionally target a civilian building (I mean c'mon, the US military ain't stupid and they know that everything they do is subject to review) unless they had reasonable intelligence to suggest that a high-value target was in the building. And for the clueless out there, everyone in that country knows that if they harbor terrorists, they may share the same inevitable fate as said terrorists. So why has this thread gone as far as it has? I thought most of you were smarter than that. ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
The debate was if the intelligence was accurate and the US acting too quickly. On one hand I agree with you, on the other, look at how we fucked up with Iraq and that reason to go to war. Kinda hard to believe in intelligence right now. Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Right, we're the only country in the world that attacks places.
No, you're not...But sadly you're near the top of the list. Steve
Well, right now yeah. It's kinda known that we're trying to "remove terrorists". I'm just having mixed feelings. I don't like it when innocent people die ya know. Jeremy Falcon
