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    Brad Bruce
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    I think I finally convinced the boss to spring for MSDN (Professional). :jig: After I got slammed for not testing on enough Operating systems, :-O I informed him that there was a solution. Of course I started out by requesting the Universal version :eek: After he came down off the ceiling, I presented him with the professional version. (Aint I a stinker???? :laugh: )

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      I think I finally convinced the boss to spring for MSDN (Professional). :jig: After I got slammed for not testing on enough Operating systems, :-O I informed him that there was a solution. Of course I started out by requesting the Universal version :eek: After he came down off the ceiling, I presented him with the professional version. (Aint I a stinker???? :laugh: )

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      Uwe Keim
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      Then, you should also try VMWARE (www.vmware.com, a virtual PC inside your PC. Ideal for testing operating systems without additional hardware. -- See me: www.magerquark.de

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        Then, you should also try VMWARE (www.vmware.com, a virtual PC inside your PC. Ideal for testing operating systems without additional hardware. -- See me: www.magerquark.de

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        Yup, but then, you won't be able to ask them for more computers to install the other "Test Environments" ;P

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          Yup, but then, you won't be able to ask them for more computers to install the other "Test Environments" ;P

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          Brad Bruce
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          I'm getting drive-trays :-D I have to test on 95, 98, 98se, NT 4.0, ME, 2000 Pro, and XP :(( Brad

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            I'm getting drive-trays :-D I have to test on 95, 98, 98se, NT 4.0, ME, 2000 Pro, and XP :(( Brad

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            Tim Smith
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            That is the way to go. VMWare might be nice, but I don't trust it when it comes to testing software for multiple platforms. Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.

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              I'm getting drive-trays :-D I have to test on 95, 98, 98se, NT 4.0, ME, 2000 Pro, and XP :(( Brad

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              Navin
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              I use imaging software, an MSDN universal license, and a couple computers with large hard drives. That way you can test using fewer computers, and also have a machine that can be made free from corruption by previous app installs/uninstalls. (That is quite important, when the code you work on is the installer and uninstaller... ;P ) The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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                I use imaging software, an MSDN universal license, and a couple computers with large hard drives. That way you can test using fewer computers, and also have a machine that can be made free from corruption by previous app installs/uninstalls. (That is quite important, when the code you work on is the installer and uninstaller... ;P ) The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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                I assume by imaging software, you mean you can quickly get a fresh OS install every time. IMHO, that is by far the way to go. Next is having the removable drives (which is what we do). Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.

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                  I assume by imaging software, you mean you can quickly get a fresh OS install every time. IMHO, that is by far the way to go. Next is having the removable drives (which is what we do). Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.

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                  Navin
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                  Yes, that's exactly the benefit. You set up your system in a "clean" state, image it, and then any time you need it clean again, you just load up the image. The only problem is when you forget to uncheck the "automatically update for daylight savings" checkbox... as soon as daylight savings clicks in and you bring up a few images, your computer is several hours fast. :-O The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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                    I'm getting drive-trays :-D I have to test on 95, 98, 98se, NT 4.0, ME, 2000 Pro, and XP :(( Brad

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                    Another option is to use multiple boot partitions. I have 11 different partitions on this PC to boot into every version of Windows. Each one has separate files and data, which works perfectly for most testing needs. Ed

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                      Another option is to use multiple boot partitions. I have 11 different partitions on this PC to boot into every version of Windows. Each one has separate files and data, which works perfectly for most testing needs. Ed

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                      That's probably what I'll do at home. At work though, I don't want to take the chance of the boot manager introducing a problem. :mad:

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                        Yes, that's exactly the benefit. You set up your system in a "clean" state, image it, and then any time you need it clean again, you just load up the image. The only problem is when you forget to uncheck the "automatically update for daylight savings" checkbox... as soon as daylight savings clicks in and you bring up a few images, your computer is several hours fast. :-O The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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                        Richard Cunday
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                        You may want to consider another option of using Symantec Ghost to setup different OS configurations for testing. See http://enterprisesecurity.symantec.com/products/products.cfm?productID=3

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                          That's probably what I'll do at home. At work though, I don't want to take the chance of the boot manager introducing a problem. :mad:

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                          There is effectively no boot manager. BootItNG just lets the normal MS boot approach work on more partitions. Each one is standard MS stuff. www.terabyteunlimited.com is the site for this software, which is cheap at about $30. Ed

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                            I'm getting drive-trays :-D I have to test on 95, 98, 98se, NT 4.0, ME, 2000 Pro, and XP :(( Brad

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                            Michael A Barnhart
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                            I have been using drive trays for several years and am quite happy. However those trays insulate the drives and especially the 7200 drives run hot. I have a fan installed above each tray to keep them cool.

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                              I think I finally convinced the boss to spring for MSDN (Professional). :jig: After I got slammed for not testing on enough Operating systems, :-O I informed him that there was a solution. Of course I started out by requesting the Universal version :eek: After he came down off the ceiling, I presented him with the professional version. (Aint I a stinker???? :laugh: )

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                              James T Johnson
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                              Congrats! We just got our Professional subscription as well :) Next year we're aiming for the Universal subscription :laugh: James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "Not be to confused with 'The VD Project'. Which would be a very bad pr0n flick. :-D" - Michael P Butler Jan. 18, 2002

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