VS 2005 Academic editions

David Stone

If you don't mind my asking, why not just use the Express editions of the product. They're free for the next year and they're just like VS, only for one language (VC# Express, VB Express, VC++ Express, etc).

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DaTxomin

If I get the academic edition, I get some cash back. But I wanna know what the academic edition exactly is before I buy it. Otherwise, I prefer to wait until later and buy a professional edition when I have the money. The problem, really, is that I haven't found a proper description of what the heck is the academic edition. Lack of information, basically, leads to being unable to make a proper decision.

Jeremy Falcon

DaTxomin wrote:

If I get the academic edition, I get some cash back.

The express editions are free. So, wouldn't you be saving even more money? :rolleyes: Unless you need the extra functionality that is. Jeremy Falcon

Christian Graus

Because they are knobbled versions ? The C++ one doesn't even support MFC. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

DaTxomin

Well, that is the issue, what IS the extra functionality? I mean, if the academic edition IS the professional edition and not the standard edition, that will make a difference in itself. Isn't it odd how hard it is to figure out what exactly is the freaking academic edition?

Ryan Binns

From what I remember, the academic edition of VS has always been simply a cheaper version of VS professional, with the same freedom to distribute applications made with it. Of course, that may have changed for VS 2005. I bought VC++6 academic edition, and there were no restrictions with it.

Ryan

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Super Lloyd

The best place to compare edition is at the vendor's web site! http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/howtobuy/default.aspx[^] A quick search on the page will lead you to this matrix: http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/products/compare/[^] or feedback http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/howtobuy/guide/[^]

Dave Kreskowiak

There is no Acedemic version. What you buy through the Academic program is a price-discounted Visual Studio.NET 2005 Standard Edition (Clicky[^]). This is the fully functional retail product, just cheaper. As for your licensing if you want to do "for profit" work with this Academic licensed version, you'll have to consult with the instituion your buying the product through. The Microsoft Academic programs they participate in will dictate what you can do with the software you write, and even how long you get to use the product for. RageInTheMachine9532 "...a pungent, ghastly, stinky piece of cheese!" -- The Roaming Gnome

Ryan Binns

It seems that only VS2005 Standard is available with academic pricing: http://www.microsoft.com/Education/USAcademicPricing.mspx[^]

Ryan

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DaTxomin

Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

There is no Acedemic version.

That must be the problem. All links lead to pages where there is no mention of an Academic edition.

Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

What you buy through the Academic program is a price-discounted Visual Studio.NET 2005 Standard Edition (Clicky[^]). This is the fully functional retail product, just cheaper.

It agrees with what little I've found so far.

Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

As for your licensing if you want to do "for profit" work with this Academic licensed version, you'll have to consult with the instituion your buying the product through. The Microsoft Academic programs they participate in will dictate what you can do with the software you write, and even how long you get to use the product for.

I'll check the relevant authorities. Thank you very much Dave, and thank you all for taking the time.

William Penington

Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

if you want to do "for profit" work with this Academic licensed version, you'll have to consult with the instituion your buying the product through.

What about the retail academic version? William Penington

Dave Kreskowiak

There is no Academic version. You get the full retail product (VS.NET 2005 Standard Edition) were the only thing Academic about is it is how it's purchased and what your license terms are for using the product. This is dictated by the MS Academic program your institution participates in. RageInTheMachine9532 "...a pungent, ghastly, stinky piece of cheese!" -- The Roaming Gnome

Ed Poore

I don't know if anything has changed since 2003 but I've got an Academic 2003 which is exactly the same as VS.NET 2003 Professional but with extras! Basically you have VS.NET 2003 plus "student support", i.e. access to some of Microsoft's Learning Resources. Like someone else mentioned you're not supposed to sell products you compiled using VS.NET but as far as I know there's no way of tracking this. If you're really concerned then you can always write the code in VS.NET and then compile using Microsoft Build / NAnt or the command-line. So in summary the only differences in the 2003 version were: 1) Licensing 2) Extra student stuff Hope this helps Ed

Tom Archer

According to the Directory of Marketing, the academic version is just a lower-priced Standard Edition. Therefore, you can compare functionality using this table: http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/products/compare/default.aspx[^] Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager MSDN Online (Windows Vista and Visual C++) MICROSOFT

Thomas Stockwell

I own both Visual Studio .NET 2003 and 2005 in academic versions. The Visual Studio .NET 2003 is pretty much exactly the same as the Visual Studio .NET 2003 Professional version but with Student Tools. The student tools include: update AP classes for AP Computer Programming courses that require APStrings, APVectors, etc; Course Tools; and AP samples. Visual Studio .NET 2005 is pretty much the exact same as Visual Studio .NET Standard 2005, their are NO AP files included with this edition of the software. If you like to learn more about academic versions of Microsoft products then you can visit www.academicsuperstore.com, which is where I have bought both of the two programming suites. Regards, 1tg46 -- modified at 16:13 Sunday 26th February, 2006