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  • L Luis Alonso Ramos

    And no, it's not about the compiler or anything related :-D I'm looking for two words in English, and I can't seem to find the exact word. Could someone here help please? :-O 1. What's the word for something that makes a sale of anything more attractive to the customer? For example, in the car-wash business, you have sales that sometimes are cheaper because of a discount (50% or $5 off), but you have other types of ________ that are not necessarily direct money: for example a rain-check in which you get a free wash if you washed your car the day before and it rained, or some loyalty program in which for every 10 washes you get one free. These last two examples are not discounts but still are _________. 2. What do you do when you sign up to a gym? Subscribe? Enroll? Here I'm looking for the noun word (enrollment seems to me like a good word, but I'm open to opinions.) Thanks! -- LuisR


    Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico Not much here: My CP Blog!

    The amount of sleep the average person needs is five more minutes. -- Vikram A Punathambekar, Aug. 11, 2005

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    Sorry, these are probably not the "best" answers, but 1. "incentive" 2. I dont know if there is a noun word .. since it's an action ... the most common think I've heard is "sign-up" or "sign-on" ... especially, in the past tense. "We need less government, not more. The idea that we can become a better society by having a bigger rule book is ridiculous, regardless of who is trying to change the rules" - Doug Goulden

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      Sorry, these are probably not the "best" answers, but 1. "incentive" 2. I dont know if there is a noun word .. since it's an action ... the most common think I've heard is "sign-up" or "sign-on" ... especially, in the past tense. "We need less government, not more. The idea that we can become a better society by having a bigger rule book is ridiculous, regardless of who is trying to change the rules" - Doug Goulden

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      David Patrick wrote:

      1. "incentive"

      looks like I've been "nish-ed" ... It's a word I've just invented to describe that situtation where anything you've posted electronically ( forum, email etc ) is immediately irrelevant because you've been to slow to hit the send button ... usually happens to me with email at work :laugh: "We need less government, not more. The idea that we can become a better society by having a bigger rule book is ridiculous, regardless of who is trying to change the rules" - Doug Goulden

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      • L Luis Alonso Ramos

        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

        1. Incentive?

        In Spanish the word is promoción which literally translates to promotion. But in English promotion is more like the act of promoting something, isn't it? Incentive, well, could be, but it's not a word much heard in marketing, is it?

        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

        2. Enrolled at a gym OR Joined a gym?

        I think enrollment is the word I'm looking for... thanks! :) -- LuisR


        Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico Not much here: My CP Blog!

        The amount of sleep the average person needs is five more minutes. -- Vikram A Punathambekar, Aug. 11, 2005

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        Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:

        But in English promotion is more like the act of promoting something, isn't it?

        No, your original thought was correct ... it can be used as a noun, exactly as you intended. "We need less government, not more. The idea that we can become a better society by having a bigger rule book is ridiculous, regardless of who is trying to change the rules" - Doug Goulden

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          Sorry, these are probably not the "best" answers, but 1. "incentive" 2. I dont know if there is a noun word .. since it's an action ... the most common think I've heard is "sign-up" or "sign-on" ... especially, in the past tense. "We need less government, not more. The idea that we can become a better society by having a bigger rule book is ridiculous, regardless of who is trying to change the rules" - Doug Goulden

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          Luis Alonso Ramos
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          I'm trying to find words for my business-layer objects for an app we're developing for a chain of gyms. Incentive sounds good to me, and I could probably use it (if no better words come out :)). What about offers like in special offers? And for the second one, I was thinking about Enrollment Plans (normal paying every month, prepaid, and so on). I also though about signing in, but doesn't sound good to me as a noun. Thanks! :) -- LuisR


          Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico Not much here: My CP Blog!

          The amount of sleep the average person needs is five more minutes. -- Vikram A Punathambekar, Aug. 11, 2005

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            Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:

            But in English promotion is more like the act of promoting something, isn't it?

            No, your original thought was correct ... it can be used as a noun, exactly as you intended. "We need less government, not more. The idea that we can become a better society by having a bigger rule book is ridiculous, regardless of who is trying to change the rules" - Doug Goulden

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            So, promotion is valid to describe both a discount (50% or $5 off) and another kind of incentive (2x1 sale for example)? -- LuisR


            Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico Not much here: My CP Blog!

            The amount of sleep the average person needs is five more minutes. -- Vikram A Punathambekar, Aug. 11, 2005

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            • L Luis Alonso Ramos

              I'm trying to find words for my business-layer objects for an app we're developing for a chain of gyms. Incentive sounds good to me, and I could probably use it (if no better words come out :)). What about offers like in special offers? And for the second one, I was thinking about Enrollment Plans (normal paying every month, prepaid, and so on). I also though about signing in, but doesn't sound good to me as a noun. Thanks! :) -- LuisR


              Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico Not much here: My CP Blog!

              The amount of sleep the average person needs is five more minutes. -- Vikram A Punathambekar, Aug. 11, 2005

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              Varindir Rajesh Mahdihar
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              member Plans

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                David Patrick wrote:

                1. "incentive"

                looks like I've been "nish-ed" ... It's a word I've just invented to describe that situtation where anything you've posted electronically ( forum, email etc ) is immediately irrelevant because you've been to slow to hit the send button ... usually happens to me with email at work :laugh: "We need less government, not more. The idea that we can become a better society by having a bigger rule book is ridiculous, regardless of who is trying to change the rules" - Doug Goulden

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                Luis Alonso Ramos
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                David Patrick wrote:

                looks like I've been "nish-ed"

                :laugh: You probably invented the word, but not the concept, since it has happenned to many people here with Nish!! :-D Doesn't he have work to do or what? :rolleyes: -- LuisR


                Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico Not much here: My CP Blog!

                The amount of sleep the average person needs is five more minutes. -- Vikram A Punathambekar, Aug. 11, 2005

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                  member Plans

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                  Luis Alonso Ramos
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                  You win! :) Thanks!! -- LuisR


                  Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico Not much here: My CP Blog!

                  The amount of sleep the average person needs is five more minutes. -- Vikram A Punathambekar, Aug. 11, 2005

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                  • L Luis Alonso Ramos

                    So, promotion is valid to describe both a discount (50% or $5 off) and another kind of incentive (2x1 sale for example)? -- LuisR


                    Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico Not much here: My CP Blog!

                    The amount of sleep the average person needs is five more minutes. -- Vikram A Punathambekar, Aug. 11, 2005

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                    David Patrick
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                    Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:

                    promotion is valid to describe both

                    I'd say yes. Think of it this way, both are being used to promote your business. "We need less government, not more. The idea that we can become a better society by having a bigger rule book is ridiculous, regardless of who is trying to change the rules" - Doug Goulden

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                      Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:

                      promotion is valid to describe both

                      I'd say yes. Think of it this way, both are being used to promote your business. "We need less government, not more. The idea that we can become a better society by having a bigger rule book is ridiculous, regardless of who is trying to change the rules" - Doug Goulden

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                      Luis Alonso Ramos
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                      Ok, that will be it then! Thanks!! :) -- LuisR


                      Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico Not much here: My CP Blog!

                      The amount of sleep the average person needs is five more minutes. -- Vikram A Punathambekar, Aug. 11, 2005

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                      • L Luis Alonso Ramos

                        David Patrick wrote:

                        looks like I've been "nish-ed"

                        :laugh: You probably invented the word, but not the concept, since it has happenned to many people here with Nish!! :-D Doesn't he have work to do or what? :rolleyes: -- LuisR


                        Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico Not much here: My CP Blog!

                        The amount of sleep the average person needs is five more minutes. -- Vikram A Punathambekar, Aug. 11, 2005

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                        Nish Nishant
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                        Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:

                        You probably invented the word, but not the concept, since it has happenned to many people here with Nish!! Doesn't he have work to do or what?

                        :rolleyes: Regards, Nish


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                        • L Luis Alonso Ramos

                          I'm trying to find words for my business-layer objects for an app we're developing for a chain of gyms. Incentive sounds good to me, and I could probably use it (if no better words come out :)). What about offers like in special offers? And for the second one, I was thinking about Enrollment Plans (normal paying every month, prepaid, and so on). I also though about signing in, but doesn't sound good to me as a noun. Thanks! :) -- LuisR


                          Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico Not much here: My CP Blog!

                          The amount of sleep the average person needs is five more minutes. -- Vikram A Punathambekar, Aug. 11, 2005

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                          Michael Bergman
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                          I would call it a contract. That is, essentially, what you have between any business and client. Enrollment is a one-shot process, like an initialization whereas contract is more flexible and can cover a range of behaviors.

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                            I would call it a contract. That is, essentially, what you have between any business and client. Enrollment is a one-shot process, like an initialization whereas contract is more flexible and can cover a range of behaviors.

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                            Luis Alonso Ramos
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                            I think I'll use member plans. It's similar to the term in Spanish, so it fits quite well. Thanks anyway! :) -- LuisR


                            Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico Not much here: My CP Blog!

                            The amount of sleep the average person needs is five more minutes. -- Vikram A Punathambekar, Aug. 11, 2005

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                            • L Luis Alonso Ramos

                              And no, it's not about the compiler or anything related :-D I'm looking for two words in English, and I can't seem to find the exact word. Could someone here help please? :-O 1. What's the word for something that makes a sale of anything more attractive to the customer? For example, in the car-wash business, you have sales that sometimes are cheaper because of a discount (50% or $5 off), but you have other types of ________ that are not necessarily direct money: for example a rain-check in which you get a free wash if you washed your car the day before and it rained, or some loyalty program in which for every 10 washes you get one free. These last two examples are not discounts but still are _________. 2. What do you do when you sign up to a gym? Subscribe? Enroll? Here I'm looking for the noun word (enrollment seems to me like a good word, but I'm open to opinions.) Thanks! -- LuisR


                              Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico Not much here: My CP Blog!

                              The amount of sleep the average person needs is five more minutes. -- Vikram A Punathambekar, Aug. 11, 2005

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                              1. Incentive A promotion is usually a temporary advertising campaign. In your promotion, you would draw attention to those incentives. "Amenities" might also be useful, but not in the context of your example. Free coffee while you wait, television in the lobby, etc. would be amenities. 2. Plan or Package It looks like you already decided on "member plan". Sounds good. Package would also sound fine.

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                              • L Luis Alonso Ramos

                                And no, it's not about the compiler or anything related :-D I'm looking for two words in English, and I can't seem to find the exact word. Could someone here help please? :-O 1. What's the word for something that makes a sale of anything more attractive to the customer? For example, in the car-wash business, you have sales that sometimes are cheaper because of a discount (50% or $5 off), but you have other types of ________ that are not necessarily direct money: for example a rain-check in which you get a free wash if you washed your car the day before and it rained, or some loyalty program in which for every 10 washes you get one free. These last two examples are not discounts but still are _________. 2. What do you do when you sign up to a gym? Subscribe? Enroll? Here I'm looking for the noun word (enrollment seems to me like a good word, but I'm open to opinions.) Thanks! -- LuisR


                                Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico Not much here: My CP Blog!

                                The amount of sleep the average person needs is five more minutes. -- Vikram A Punathambekar, Aug. 11, 2005

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                                Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:

                                What do you do when you sign up to a gym?

                                Here it's generally called a membership, so you become a member of the gym.

                                Ryan

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                                • L Luis Alonso Ramos

                                  I'm trying to find words for my business-layer objects for an app we're developing for a chain of gyms. Incentive sounds good to me, and I could probably use it (if no better words come out :)). What about offers like in special offers? And for the second one, I was thinking about Enrollment Plans (normal paying every month, prepaid, and so on). I also though about signing in, but doesn't sound good to me as a noun. Thanks! :) -- LuisR


                                  Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico Not much here: My CP Blog!

                                  The amount of sleep the average person needs is five more minutes. -- Vikram A Punathambekar, Aug. 11, 2005

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                                  Incentive is the word I most often find associated with a bonus for doing something desirable. As for gym memberships, join is the word most often used in my experience. Enrollment plan sounds clumsy to me; I prefer Membership plan; enrollment sounds too much like a contract committment. I enroll in a school, but I joined a health club (aka gym). "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9

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                                  • L Luis Alonso Ramos

                                    And no, it's not about the compiler or anything related :-D I'm looking for two words in English, and I can't seem to find the exact word. Could someone here help please? :-O 1. What's the word for something that makes a sale of anything more attractive to the customer? For example, in the car-wash business, you have sales that sometimes are cheaper because of a discount (50% or $5 off), but you have other types of ________ that are not necessarily direct money: for example a rain-check in which you get a free wash if you washed your car the day before and it rained, or some loyalty program in which for every 10 washes you get one free. These last two examples are not discounts but still are _________. 2. What do you do when you sign up to a gym? Subscribe? Enroll? Here I'm looking for the noun word (enrollment seems to me like a good word, but I'm open to opinions.) Thanks! -- LuisR


                                    Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico Not much here: My CP Blog!

                                    The amount of sleep the average person needs is five more minutes. -- Vikram A Punathambekar, Aug. 11, 2005

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                                    1. voucher perhaps, even a 'comp' as in complemetary but more orrientated to service industry.

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                                    • L Luis Alonso Ramos

                                      And no, it's not about the compiler or anything related :-D I'm looking for two words in English, and I can't seem to find the exact word. Could someone here help please? :-O 1. What's the word for something that makes a sale of anything more attractive to the customer? For example, in the car-wash business, you have sales that sometimes are cheaper because of a discount (50% or $5 off), but you have other types of ________ that are not necessarily direct money: for example a rain-check in which you get a free wash if you washed your car the day before and it rained, or some loyalty program in which for every 10 washes you get one free. These last two examples are not discounts but still are _________. 2. What do you do when you sign up to a gym? Subscribe? Enroll? Here I'm looking for the noun word (enrollment seems to me like a good word, but I'm open to opinions.) Thanks! -- LuisR


                                      Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico Not much here: My CP Blog!

                                      The amount of sleep the average person needs is five more minutes. -- Vikram A Punathambekar, Aug. 11, 2005

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                                      1. Incentive[^] 2. Join. [ guess I should have read more of the posts to realize you had answered your question already :-O ]


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                                        1. Incentive A promotion is usually a temporary advertising campaign. In your promotion, you would draw attention to those incentives. "Amenities" might also be useful, but not in the context of your example. Free coffee while you wait, television in the lobby, etc. would be amenities. 2. Plan or Package It looks like you already decided on "member plan". Sounds good. Package would also sound fine.

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                                        Luis Alonso Ramos
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                                        That was the concept of promotion I had, more what you do to promote something, that's promotion. But incentive sounds to me more like a reward you give someone for doing something or good productivity. Maybe the meaning of the word in Spanish is influencing that idea. Yes, member plan sounds good to me also. Thanks!! -- LuisR


                                        Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico Not much here: My CP Blog!

                                        The amount of sleep the average person needs is five more minutes. -- Vikram A Punathambekar, Aug. 11, 2005

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                                          1. Incentive[^] 2. Join. [ guess I should have read more of the posts to realize you had answered your question already :-O ]


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                                          Luis Alonso Ramos
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                                          Gary Wheeler wrote:

                                          guess I should have read more of the posts to realize you had answered your question already

                                          Don't worry, I appreciate it! :) -- LuisR


                                          Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico Not much here: My CP Blog!

                                          The amount of sleep the average person needs is five more minutes. -- Vikram A Punathambekar, Aug. 11, 2005

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