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  • M Martin Marvinski

    Lets have others comment on it. I believe that you meant what you inferred and are now embarrased. I bet that others will read your orginal post the same way I have. If they don't, then I appologise, but if everyone agrees that you meant it that way, I retract my appology. I :love: Microsoft and :bob:

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    Konstantin Vasserman
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    Martin Marvinski wrote: I bet that others will read your orginal post the same way I have. I did not find anything derogatory to anyone or anything in what David said in his original post. The first derogatory statement in your exchange with David was made by you, Martin: Martin Marvinski wrote: Just because England is a backwards country doesn't excuse you from posting such chauvinistic rhetoric online. I live in US, but I've come here from Russia and I know first hand how it feels when someone who knows nothing about your country throwing insulting statements like that at you. "You Russians...", "You Brits...", "You --insert any country, nationality, religion--..." I find your statement about England to be ignorant and insulting. And it is your apology to David that is due as far as I concern.

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    • M Martin Marvinski

      David Wulff wrote: Besides whic, what part of that statement was chauvinistic, and what part mentioned women? The part where you wrote "a box of tissue or a willing partner" was quite demeaning to women. I really can't blame you for that comment because the UK is clearly not training it's citizens and residents about the modern world of equality among the sexes. I :love: Microsoft and :bob:

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      Bill Leibold
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      I am from the US and I don't see anything wrong with what he wrote! Lighten up. :laugh:

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      • M Martin Marvinski

        Lets have others comment on it. I believe that you meant what you inferred and are now embarrased. I bet that others will read your orginal post the same way I have. If they don't, then I appologise, but if everyone agrees that you meant it that way, I retract my appology. I :love: Microsoft and :bob:

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        Stan Shannon
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        Martin, although I enjoy your openly anti-English sentiments, I will have to agree with the others. Your critique of David's comments are way out of line. "Thank you, thank you very much" Elvis.

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        • J Jon Sagara

          As an American, I sadly have to agree with you, Robert. Jon Sagara What about :bob:?

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          Lost User
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          Jon Sagara wrote: As an American, I sadly have to agree with you, Robert. Ditto!

          Mike Mullikin "Programming is like sex. One mistake and you have to support it for the rest of your life." - Michael Sinz

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          • R Robert Dickenson

            Jon Sagara wrote: don't think about anything (don't even think about not thinking about anything), and enjoy your rest. If you could bottle that, I'm sure you'd be the worlds most popular person. And for all the best reasons. :) Any hints on how you manage to achieve such a blissfull sounding state of mind :confused:

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            Jon Sagara
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            No, not any more than I've given above. Sorry. :) Jon Sagara What about :bob:?

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            • M Mauricio Ritter

              I´ve been quite sleepless in the last weeks... dont´t know if I´ve drinked too much coffee (or chimarrão). Fact is... i can´t sleep well. Does anyone have the same problem ? Does anyone have a solution (drugs not accepted) ? Mauricio Ritter Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 Trank

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              Christian Graus
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              Hot chocolate milk. Otherwise, I agree with David Wulf. Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001 Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff.

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              • M Martin Marvinski

                Lets have others comment on it. I believe that you meant what you inferred and are now embarrased. I bet that others will read your orginal post the same way I have. If they don't, then I appologise, but if everyone agrees that you meant it that way, I retract my appology. I :love: Microsoft and :bob:

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                qomi
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                David Wulff wrote: "partner who's openminded" All sexual preferences use the term partner. Assuming that Mauricio chooses only to have sex with women, than yes in this case the statement would be in reference to a woman. However, David did not word it that way. Any form of sex (i.e. masturbation, oral, anal, vaginal) release endorphins. For those that don't know endorphins are a morphine-like substances that is naturally released from your brain when you exert yourself physically or eat extremely spicy foods. This is part of what causes the euphoric feeling afterwards. Can anyone say they haven't 'used' sex as a stress reliever? As long as all parties are willing…what’s the big deal about? qomi "Don't compromise yourself. It's all you've got." - Janis Joplin

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                • M Martin Marvinski

                  What David Wulff means is that whenever he is stressed out, he goes to his wife or girlfriend and uses their bodies for sexual release, thereby giving him a state of relaxation and comfort. He is also recommending that everyone else have the same types of relationships with women as he does, i.e., merely using the female form as a stress reliever or a human toilet. I :love: Microsoft and :bob:

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                  Mustafa Demirhan
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                  Hey, shut up Martin. This is enough. Dont make things hard for yourself!!!! Mustafa Demirhan http://www.macroangel.com Sonork ID 100.9935:zoltrix

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                  • Q qomi

                    David Wulff wrote: "partner who's openminded" All sexual preferences use the term partner. Assuming that Mauricio chooses only to have sex with women, than yes in this case the statement would be in reference to a woman. However, David did not word it that way. Any form of sex (i.e. masturbation, oral, anal, vaginal) release endorphins. For those that don't know endorphins are a morphine-like substances that is naturally released from your brain when you exert yourself physically or eat extremely spicy foods. This is part of what causes the euphoric feeling afterwards. Can anyone say they haven't 'used' sex as a stress reliever? As long as all parties are willing…what’s the big deal about? qomi "Don't compromise yourself. It's all you've got." - Janis Joplin

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                    Christian Graus
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                    qomi wrote: Any form of sex (i.e. masturbation, oral, anal, vaginal) release endorphins. Can I just clarify - are you saying someone who is taking it up the tradesmans entrance or eating a fish or pork sandwich is also releasing endorphins ? Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001 Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff.

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                    • M Mauricio Ritter

                      I´ve been quite sleepless in the last weeks... dont´t know if I´ve drinked too much coffee (or chimarrão). Fact is... i can´t sleep well. Does anyone have the same problem ? Does anyone have a solution (drugs not accepted) ? Mauricio Ritter Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 Trank

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                      qomi
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                      Is the lack of sleep disturbing your waking hours? Maybe you don't need those hours of sleep you are trying to get? Are your dreams waking you up? Or are you just not getting to sleep? When I am having trouble falling asleep, what I do is: **1)**exercise for at least 1/2hour **2)**start warming some milk **3)**hop in a warm shower **4)**drink some warmed milk with Baileys (I see honey was suggested,that would work too) **5)**lie in bed and read a dry book until I fall sleep I usually don't make it though a page! good luck :-) qomi "Don't compromise yourself. It's all you've got." - Janis Joplin

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                        qomi wrote: Any form of sex (i.e. masturbation, oral, anal, vaginal) release endorphins. Can I just clarify - are you saying someone who is taking it up the tradesmans entrance or eating a fish or pork sandwich is also releasing endorphins ? Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001 Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff.

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                        qomi
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                        LOL :laugh: what nice polite terms you use To clarify :-O though I am sure you know the answer! Yes, anal sex done properly is a pleasurable experience on the receiving end. And in fact there are probably more endorphins released during anal sex for the receiver, since the purpose of endorphins is to act as an anaesthetic. As in 'a runners high'. However, it doesn't work if you are on the giving end of oral sex, unless you are receiving at the same time. Better? qomi "Don't compromise yourself. It's all you've got." - Janis Joplin

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                        • M Martin Marvinski

                          Lets have others comment on it. I believe that you meant what you inferred and are now embarrased. I bet that others will read your orginal post the same way I have. If they don't, then I appologise, but if everyone agrees that you meant it that way, I retract my appology. I :love: Microsoft and :bob:

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                          Richard Melton
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                          I'm with David on this Martin. Jeesh, I couldn't disagree with you more. I really think your heavy handed comment is really ignorant. I'd like to say more, but I since I don't know you, it's not fair to say what I'm thinking.

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                            LOL :laugh: what nice polite terms you use To clarify :-O though I am sure you know the answer! Yes, anal sex done properly is a pleasurable experience on the receiving end. And in fact there are probably more endorphins released during anal sex for the receiver, since the purpose of endorphins is to act as an anaesthetic. As in 'a runners high'. However, it doesn't work if you are on the giving end of oral sex, unless you are receiving at the same time. Better? qomi "Don't compromise yourself. It's all you've got." - Janis Joplin

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                            Paul Watson
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                            qomi wrote: Better? I think you just made Christians day Qomi :laugh: qomi wrote: since the purpose of endorphins is to act as an anaesthetic Hence why some people get a kick out of pain, because the end result is actually pleasure, not pain. Even simple things like getting your ear or belly button peirced releases endorphins. So when you watch the X-Files and the guy tatoos his whole body, or has 500 piercings, it is not SO wierd. Maybe you can clear something up, since you seem to know a bit about the subject. When two people make love are the endorphins released due to the physical exertion? I can understand that anal sex would release endorphins because it can be painful at first, but surely not vaginal or oral? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront

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                            • M Mauricio Ritter

                              I´ve been quite sleepless in the last weeks... dont´t know if I´ve drinked too much coffee (or chimarrão). Fact is... i can´t sleep well. Does anyone have the same problem ? Does anyone have a solution (drugs not accepted) ? Mauricio Ritter Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 Trank

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                              Paul Watson
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                              Mauricio Ritter wrote: Does anyone have the same problem ? It takes me an hour to get to sleep, no matter what. But that is normal for me and it is not due to stress or worrying. It just takes my head an hour to slow down enough so that I can sleep :) Mauricio Ritter wrote: Does anyone have a solution As David said making love (sex) or masturbating is probably the best way. It relaxes you because men release certain hormones after having an orgasm which almost forces the body to rest and sleep (to recover from the physical exertion and stock up on sperm.) This is why a lot of men just roll over and fall asleep, and why their wives get so pissed off :) (though I don't condone rolling-over-and-falling-asleep, women should understand it is a physical thing) Otherwise do some exercise. Also I find sometimes if I am thinking to much I have to force myself to breathe deeply and start clearing my mind. First start thinking of more relaxing things, then from there move to simple things (like buy milk tomorrow or imagine a blue sky and drifting beneath it), once there you can literally start thinking blank thoughts. I find I have to actively think about all of this at first, and then a few minutes later it becomes automatic and the next thing I know I am waking up the next day not remembering how I fell asleep. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront

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                                David Wulff wrote: "partner who's openminded" All sexual preferences use the term partner. Assuming that Mauricio chooses only to have sex with women, than yes in this case the statement would be in reference to a woman. However, David did not word it that way. Any form of sex (i.e. masturbation, oral, anal, vaginal) release endorphins. For those that don't know endorphins are a morphine-like substances that is naturally released from your brain when you exert yourself physically or eat extremely spicy foods. This is part of what causes the euphoric feeling afterwards. Can anyone say they haven't 'used' sex as a stress reliever? As long as all parties are willing…what’s the big deal about? qomi "Don't compromise yourself. It's all you've got." - Janis Joplin

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                                Roger Wright
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                                qomi wrote: Any form of sex (i.e. masturbation, oral, anal, vaginal) release endorphins So does chocolate... You continue to impress me with your breadth and depth of knowledge! Good work, young lady...

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                                • K Konstantin Vasserman

                                  Martin Marvinski wrote: I bet that others will read your orginal post the same way I have. I did not find anything derogatory to anyone or anything in what David said in his original post. The first derogatory statement in your exchange with David was made by you, Martin: Martin Marvinski wrote: Just because England is a backwards country doesn't excuse you from posting such chauvinistic rhetoric online. I live in US, but I've come here from Russia and I know first hand how it feels when someone who knows nothing about your country throwing insulting statements like that at you. "You Russians...", "You Brits...", "You --insert any country, nationality, religion--..." I find your statement about England to be ignorant and insulting. And it is your apology to David that is due as far as I concern.

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                                  Roger Wright
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                                  Konstantin Vasserman wrote: . "You Russians...", "You Brits...", "You --insert any country, nationality, religion--..." And well you should find such comments insulting. They are spoken by the ignorant, so be a bit tolerant, but not too tolerant:) Stereotypes are usually built upon experience, but they are not usually universally true. And unpleasant experiences we tend to remember longer than those we enjoyed. What a pity... All that you earn by your years are wrinkles - very few ever acquire wisdom. - me

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                                    Mauricio Ritter wrote: my latin american english is not very good Your English is a hell of a lot better than most American/English people's Brazillian... :) ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk "DON'T MOVE! It can't see you if you don't move" - Sam Neil talking to me as John Simmons walked into the office.

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                                    Roger Wright
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                                    Ditto! In fact, most people who live outside of America (I mean the USA, not the southern part of America) are knowledgable about a number of languages. It seems that only we in the US are arrogant enough to expect the rest of the world to speak our language. I think we are missing much as a result...

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                                      David Wulff wrote: "partner who's openminded" All sexual preferences use the term partner. Assuming that Mauricio chooses only to have sex with women, than yes in this case the statement would be in reference to a woman. However, David did not word it that way. Any form of sex (i.e. masturbation, oral, anal, vaginal) release endorphins. For those that don't know endorphins are a morphine-like substances that is naturally released from your brain when you exert yourself physically or eat extremely spicy foods. This is part of what causes the euphoric feeling afterwards. Can anyone say they haven't 'used' sex as a stress reliever? As long as all parties are willing…what’s the big deal about? qomi "Don't compromise yourself. It's all you've got." - Janis Joplin

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                                      David Wulff
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                                      qomi wrote: that is naturally released from your brain when you exert yourself physically or eat extremely spicy foods So *that* is why people eat all that c**p. :) (Man - up at 7:00 in the morning - it just isn't right. :( Surely day starts when the sun comes up?) ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk "I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven't got the guts to bite people themselves" - August Strindberg

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                                        Mauricio Ritter wrote: Does anyone have the same problem ? It takes me an hour to get to sleep, no matter what. But that is normal for me and it is not due to stress or worrying. It just takes my head an hour to slow down enough so that I can sleep :) Mauricio Ritter wrote: Does anyone have a solution As David said making love (sex) or masturbating is probably the best way. It relaxes you because men release certain hormones after having an orgasm which almost forces the body to rest and sleep (to recover from the physical exertion and stock up on sperm.) This is why a lot of men just roll over and fall asleep, and why their wives get so pissed off :) (though I don't condone rolling-over-and-falling-asleep, women should understand it is a physical thing) Otherwise do some exercise. Also I find sometimes if I am thinking to much I have to force myself to breathe deeply and start clearing my mind. First start thinking of more relaxing things, then from there move to simple things (like buy milk tomorrow or imagine a blue sky and drifting beneath it), once there you can literally start thinking blank thoughts. I find I have to actively think about all of this at first, and then a few minutes later it becomes automatic and the next thing I know I am waking up the next day not remembering how I fell asleep. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront

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                                        Jon Sagara
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                                        Paul Watson wrote: It relaxes you because men release certain hormones after having an orgasm which almost forces the body to rest and sleep (to recover from the physical exertion and stock up on sperm.) This is why a lot of men just roll over and fall asleep, and why their wives get so pissed off (though I don't condone rolling-over-and-falling-asleep, women should understand it is a physical thing) Man, I should have paid more attention in biology. ;P Jon Sagara What about :bob:?

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                                          LOL :laugh: what nice polite terms you use To clarify :-O though I am sure you know the answer! Yes, anal sex done properly is a pleasurable experience on the receiving end. And in fact there are probably more endorphins released during anal sex for the receiver, since the purpose of endorphins is to act as an anaesthetic. As in 'a runners high'. However, it doesn't work if you are on the giving end of oral sex, unless you are receiving at the same time. Better? qomi "Don't compromise yourself. It's all you've got." - Janis Joplin

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                                          qomi wrote: Better? Well, I wasn't seeking to correct you, as I wasn't sure, but thanks for clarifying. It reminds me of a joke: Did you know women were designed by a local council ? Who else would put a sewage outlet next to a recreational facility ? Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001 Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff.

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