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  • M Mauricio Ritter

    I´ve been quite sleepless in the last weeks... dont´t know if I´ve drinked too much coffee (or chimarrão). Fact is... i can´t sleep well. Does anyone have the same problem ? Does anyone have a solution (drugs not accepted) ? Mauricio Ritter Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 Trank

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    Is the lack of sleep disturbing your waking hours? Maybe you don't need those hours of sleep you are trying to get? Are your dreams waking you up? Or are you just not getting to sleep? When I am having trouble falling asleep, what I do is: **1)**exercise for at least 1/2hour **2)**start warming some milk **3)**hop in a warm shower **4)**drink some warmed milk with Baileys (I see honey was suggested,that would work too) **5)**lie in bed and read a dry book until I fall sleep I usually don't make it though a page! good luck :-) qomi "Don't compromise yourself. It's all you've got." - Janis Joplin

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    • C Christian Graus

      qomi wrote: Any form of sex (i.e. masturbation, oral, anal, vaginal) release endorphins. Can I just clarify - are you saying someone who is taking it up the tradesmans entrance or eating a fish or pork sandwich is also releasing endorphins ? Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001 Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff.

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      qomi
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      LOL :laugh: what nice polite terms you use To clarify :-O though I am sure you know the answer! Yes, anal sex done properly is a pleasurable experience on the receiving end. And in fact there are probably more endorphins released during anal sex for the receiver, since the purpose of endorphins is to act as an anaesthetic. As in 'a runners high'. However, it doesn't work if you are on the giving end of oral sex, unless you are receiving at the same time. Better? qomi "Don't compromise yourself. It's all you've got." - Janis Joplin

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      • M Martin Marvinski

        Lets have others comment on it. I believe that you meant what you inferred and are now embarrased. I bet that others will read your orginal post the same way I have. If they don't, then I appologise, but if everyone agrees that you meant it that way, I retract my appology. I :love: Microsoft and :bob:

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        I'm with David on this Martin. Jeesh, I couldn't disagree with you more. I really think your heavy handed comment is really ignorant. I'd like to say more, but I since I don't know you, it's not fair to say what I'm thinking.

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          LOL :laugh: what nice polite terms you use To clarify :-O though I am sure you know the answer! Yes, anal sex done properly is a pleasurable experience on the receiving end. And in fact there are probably more endorphins released during anal sex for the receiver, since the purpose of endorphins is to act as an anaesthetic. As in 'a runners high'. However, it doesn't work if you are on the giving end of oral sex, unless you are receiving at the same time. Better? qomi "Don't compromise yourself. It's all you've got." - Janis Joplin

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          Paul Watson
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          qomi wrote: Better? I think you just made Christians day Qomi :laugh: qomi wrote: since the purpose of endorphins is to act as an anaesthetic Hence why some people get a kick out of pain, because the end result is actually pleasure, not pain. Even simple things like getting your ear or belly button peirced releases endorphins. So when you watch the X-Files and the guy tatoos his whole body, or has 500 piercings, it is not SO wierd. Maybe you can clear something up, since you seem to know a bit about the subject. When two people make love are the endorphins released due to the physical exertion? I can understand that anal sex would release endorphins because it can be painful at first, but surely not vaginal or oral? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront

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          • M Mauricio Ritter

            I´ve been quite sleepless in the last weeks... dont´t know if I´ve drinked too much coffee (or chimarrão). Fact is... i can´t sleep well. Does anyone have the same problem ? Does anyone have a solution (drugs not accepted) ? Mauricio Ritter Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 Trank

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            Paul Watson
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            Mauricio Ritter wrote: Does anyone have the same problem ? It takes me an hour to get to sleep, no matter what. But that is normal for me and it is not due to stress or worrying. It just takes my head an hour to slow down enough so that I can sleep :) Mauricio Ritter wrote: Does anyone have a solution As David said making love (sex) or masturbating is probably the best way. It relaxes you because men release certain hormones after having an orgasm which almost forces the body to rest and sleep (to recover from the physical exertion and stock up on sperm.) This is why a lot of men just roll over and fall asleep, and why their wives get so pissed off :) (though I don't condone rolling-over-and-falling-asleep, women should understand it is a physical thing) Otherwise do some exercise. Also I find sometimes if I am thinking to much I have to force myself to breathe deeply and start clearing my mind. First start thinking of more relaxing things, then from there move to simple things (like buy milk tomorrow or imagine a blue sky and drifting beneath it), once there you can literally start thinking blank thoughts. I find I have to actively think about all of this at first, and then a few minutes later it becomes automatic and the next thing I know I am waking up the next day not remembering how I fell asleep. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront

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            • Q qomi

              David Wulff wrote: "partner who's openminded" All sexual preferences use the term partner. Assuming that Mauricio chooses only to have sex with women, than yes in this case the statement would be in reference to a woman. However, David did not word it that way. Any form of sex (i.e. masturbation, oral, anal, vaginal) release endorphins. For those that don't know endorphins are a morphine-like substances that is naturally released from your brain when you exert yourself physically or eat extremely spicy foods. This is part of what causes the euphoric feeling afterwards. Can anyone say they haven't 'used' sex as a stress reliever? As long as all parties are willing…what’s the big deal about? qomi "Don't compromise yourself. It's all you've got." - Janis Joplin

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              qomi wrote: Any form of sex (i.e. masturbation, oral, anal, vaginal) release endorphins So does chocolate... You continue to impress me with your breadth and depth of knowledge! Good work, young lady...

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              • K Konstantin Vasserman

                Martin Marvinski wrote: I bet that others will read your orginal post the same way I have. I did not find anything derogatory to anyone or anything in what David said in his original post. The first derogatory statement in your exchange with David was made by you, Martin: Martin Marvinski wrote: Just because England is a backwards country doesn't excuse you from posting such chauvinistic rhetoric online. I live in US, but I've come here from Russia and I know first hand how it feels when someone who knows nothing about your country throwing insulting statements like that at you. "You Russians...", "You Brits...", "You --insert any country, nationality, religion--..." I find your statement about England to be ignorant and insulting. And it is your apology to David that is due as far as I concern.

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                Roger Wright
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                Konstantin Vasserman wrote: . "You Russians...", "You Brits...", "You --insert any country, nationality, religion--..." And well you should find such comments insulting. They are spoken by the ignorant, so be a bit tolerant, but not too tolerant:) Stereotypes are usually built upon experience, but they are not usually universally true. And unpleasant experiences we tend to remember longer than those we enjoyed. What a pity... All that you earn by your years are wrinkles - very few ever acquire wisdom. - me

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                • D David Wulff

                  Mauricio Ritter wrote: my latin american english is not very good Your English is a hell of a lot better than most American/English people's Brazillian... :) ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk "DON'T MOVE! It can't see you if you don't move" - Sam Neil talking to me as John Simmons walked into the office.

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                  Ditto! In fact, most people who live outside of America (I mean the USA, not the southern part of America) are knowledgable about a number of languages. It seems that only we in the US are arrogant enough to expect the rest of the world to speak our language. I think we are missing much as a result...

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                  • Q qomi

                    David Wulff wrote: "partner who's openminded" All sexual preferences use the term partner. Assuming that Mauricio chooses only to have sex with women, than yes in this case the statement would be in reference to a woman. However, David did not word it that way. Any form of sex (i.e. masturbation, oral, anal, vaginal) release endorphins. For those that don't know endorphins are a morphine-like substances that is naturally released from your brain when you exert yourself physically or eat extremely spicy foods. This is part of what causes the euphoric feeling afterwards. Can anyone say they haven't 'used' sex as a stress reliever? As long as all parties are willing…what’s the big deal about? qomi "Don't compromise yourself. It's all you've got." - Janis Joplin

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                    David Wulff
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                    qomi wrote: that is naturally released from your brain when you exert yourself physically or eat extremely spicy foods So *that* is why people eat all that c**p. :) (Man - up at 7:00 in the morning - it just isn't right. :( Surely day starts when the sun comes up?) ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk "I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven't got the guts to bite people themselves" - August Strindberg

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                    • P Paul Watson

                      Mauricio Ritter wrote: Does anyone have the same problem ? It takes me an hour to get to sleep, no matter what. But that is normal for me and it is not due to stress or worrying. It just takes my head an hour to slow down enough so that I can sleep :) Mauricio Ritter wrote: Does anyone have a solution As David said making love (sex) or masturbating is probably the best way. It relaxes you because men release certain hormones after having an orgasm which almost forces the body to rest and sleep (to recover from the physical exertion and stock up on sperm.) This is why a lot of men just roll over and fall asleep, and why their wives get so pissed off :) (though I don't condone rolling-over-and-falling-asleep, women should understand it is a physical thing) Otherwise do some exercise. Also I find sometimes if I am thinking to much I have to force myself to breathe deeply and start clearing my mind. First start thinking of more relaxing things, then from there move to simple things (like buy milk tomorrow or imagine a blue sky and drifting beneath it), once there you can literally start thinking blank thoughts. I find I have to actively think about all of this at first, and then a few minutes later it becomes automatic and the next thing I know I am waking up the next day not remembering how I fell asleep. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront

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                      Paul Watson wrote: It relaxes you because men release certain hormones after having an orgasm which almost forces the body to rest and sleep (to recover from the physical exertion and stock up on sperm.) This is why a lot of men just roll over and fall asleep, and why their wives get so pissed off (though I don't condone rolling-over-and-falling-asleep, women should understand it is a physical thing) Man, I should have paid more attention in biology. ;P Jon Sagara What about :bob:?

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                      • Q qomi

                        LOL :laugh: what nice polite terms you use To clarify :-O though I am sure you know the answer! Yes, anal sex done properly is a pleasurable experience on the receiving end. And in fact there are probably more endorphins released during anal sex for the receiver, since the purpose of endorphins is to act as an anaesthetic. As in 'a runners high'. However, it doesn't work if you are on the giving end of oral sex, unless you are receiving at the same time. Better? qomi "Don't compromise yourself. It's all you've got." - Janis Joplin

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                        Christian Graus
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                        qomi wrote: Better? Well, I wasn't seeking to correct you, as I wasn't sure, but thanks for clarifying. It reminds me of a joke: Did you know women were designed by a local council ? Who else would put a sewage outlet next to a recreational facility ? Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001 Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff.

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                          qomi wrote: Better? I think you just made Christians day Qomi :laugh: qomi wrote: since the purpose of endorphins is to act as an anaesthetic Hence why some people get a kick out of pain, because the end result is actually pleasure, not pain. Even simple things like getting your ear or belly button peirced releases endorphins. So when you watch the X-Files and the guy tatoos his whole body, or has 500 piercings, it is not SO wierd. Maybe you can clear something up, since you seem to know a bit about the subject. When two people make love are the endorphins released due to the physical exertion? I can understand that anal sex would release endorphins because it can be painful at first, but surely not vaginal or oral? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront

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                          Paul Watson wrote: "I can understand that anal sex would release endorphins because it can be painful at first, but surely not vaginal or oral?" If anal sex is painful it is being forced and not being done properly. STOP! During orgasms we (both men and women) experience a shot of endorphins. No mater what it is that causes that orgasm. qomi "Don't compromise yourself. It's all you've got." - Janis Joplin

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                          • M Martin Marvinski

                            What David Wulff means is that whenever he is stressed out, he goes to his wife or girlfriend and uses their bodies for sexual release, thereby giving him a state of relaxation and comfort. He is also recommending that everyone else have the same types of relationships with women as he does, i.e., merely using the female form as a stress reliever or a human toilet. I :love: Microsoft and :bob:

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                            Sorry Martin I'm fairly open minded (and living in the UK), I see David's original comment one of two ways. 1) A harmless joke, in no way derogotory to anyone (regardless of gender or sexual persuasion) 2) Actually a valid stress releiver (for all parties involved) no matter how I read that comment, I cannot interpret it the way you appear to have. Paresh Solanki One Tequila Two Tequila Three Tequila Floor

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                              Ditto! In fact, most people who live outside of America (I mean the USA, not the southern part of America) are knowledgable about a number of languages. It seems that only we in the US are arrogant enough to expect the rest of the world to speak our language. I think we are missing much as a result...

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                              Paresh Solanki
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                              Also arrogant enough to claim the english language as your own:) (just kidding) Paresh Solanki One Tequila Two Tequila Three Tequila Floor

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                                Martin Marvinski wrote: others will read your orginal post the same way I have Not a chance! It was completely gender-neutral, perfectly PC.

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                                Roger Wright wrote: Not a chance! It was completely gender-neutral, perfectly PC. I'll second that. :) IMHO Martin's lost the plot today... ;P Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd

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                                • M Martin Marvinski

                                  David Wulff wrote: I know of a fool-proof natural method for getting rid of stress and making you relaxed, but you'd need a box of tissue (or a partner who's openminded)... I can't believe you wrote that. Women are not just objects to be used for relieving stress or as sperm depositories. How are women supposed to feel with men having attitudes like that? If you were in the U.S. you would be trained at an early age to respect women as equals. Just because England is a backwards country doesn't excuse you from posting such chauvinistic rhetoric online. It may someday come back to bite you in the arse. I :love: :bob:

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                                  Martin Marvinski wrote: Just because England is a backwards country doesn't excuse you from posting such chauvinistic rhetoric online. Excuse me? I'd think more carefully about what you're saying if I was you. Your comments are well out of order. :mad: Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd

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                                    Is the lack of sleep disturbing your waking hours? Maybe you don't need those hours of sleep you are trying to get? Are your dreams waking you up? Or are you just not getting to sleep? When I am having trouble falling asleep, what I do is: **1)**exercise for at least 1/2hour **2)**start warming some milk **3)**hop in a warm shower **4)**drink some warmed milk with Baileys (I see honey was suggested,that would work too) **5)**lie in bed and read a dry book until I fall sleep I usually don't make it though a page! good luck :-) qomi "Don't compromise yourself. It's all you've got." - Janis Joplin

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                                    qomi wrote: 5)lie in bed and read a dry book until I fall sleep I usually don't make it though a page! good luck This was actually a problem for me when studying for uni, any textbook should do it. Only works in bed however because the sound of your head hitting the desk usually wakes you up again. :eek: sonork ID: 100.9940

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                                    • R Roger Wright

                                      Konstantin Vasserman wrote: . "You Russians...", "You Brits...", "You --insert any country, nationality, religion--..." And well you should find such comments insulting. They are spoken by the ignorant, so be a bit tolerant, but not too tolerant:) Stereotypes are usually built upon experience, but they are not usually universally true. And unpleasant experiences we tend to remember longer than those we enjoyed. What a pity... All that you earn by your years are wrinkles - very few ever acquire wisdom. - me

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                                      Konstantin Vasserman
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                                      Roger Wright wrote: They are spoken by the ignorant, so be a bit tolerant, but not too tolerant I am getting more tolerant as I get older. I pick my fights more wisely than I ever did. However, I believe that it is tolerance of the ignorance that makes ignorance spread so fast and so far. It is almost OK to be ignorant these days. It doesn't bother anyone much anymore. It is almost OK that majority of the people know very little of their history, their culture and culture of the world. It seems that nobody is ashamed of being illiterate anymore...

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                                        Also arrogant enough to claim the english language as your own:) (just kidding) Paresh Solanki One Tequila Two Tequila Three Tequila Floor

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                                        Paresh Solanki wrote: (just kidding) Why? It's a perfectly valid statement, and inthe case of a great many Americans, probably true:laugh:

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                                          Roger Wright wrote: They are spoken by the ignorant, so be a bit tolerant, but not too tolerant I am getting more tolerant as I get older. I pick my fights more wisely than I ever did. However, I believe that it is tolerance of the ignorance that makes ignorance spread so fast and so far. It is almost OK to be ignorant these days. It doesn't bother anyone much anymore. It is almost OK that majority of the people know very little of their history, their culture and culture of the world. It seems that nobody is ashamed of being illiterate anymore...

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                                          Roger Wright
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                                          Konstantin Vasserman wrote: It seems that nobody is ashamed of being illiterate anymore... Is that true everywhere? I thought it was only happening in the US... I do three crossword puzzles a day, and I'm amazed that of the 100 or so employees where I work, only one besides myself ever even attempts to work one. When asked why, they claim that they're too hard. Mind you, one actually is a bit challenging, though not very (LA Times), but the other two are trivial. In fact, they are often wrong! Konstantin Vasserman wrote: It is almost OK to be ignorant these days. It will never be okay in my book, but there's little I can do to alter the fact. We've tried to pass a law requiring a standardized test to be passed as a requirement for high school graduation in this state. The law has failed for several years, with the primary opposition coming from teachers. It turns out that quite a few of them can't pass it:mad: On the subject of literacy, and communications skills in general, one of my favorite authors said: "Anyone who cannot convey the fundamentals of his profession to a five year old is incompetent."** A bit harsh, perhaps, but I'm inclined to agree. ** Albert Einstein You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think! - a sign on the wall of my 7th grade Math class...

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