Anyone offended by high voted posts?
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Just wondering since I've seen a lot of 5-rated posts being down rated for no reason the past few days in the VC++/MFC forum. Does the read line hurt someones eyes or what? I always thought the voting facility is a way to alert other members about posts worth reading because they contain some good tips or tricks. I just feel this whole idea going down the drain due to abuse. If it's a joke that gets down rated I couldn't care less, but if the post contains something good it somewhat disturbs me. At the end of the day this behaviour may keep people with good ideas from posting. Thoughts anyone? -- Roger
It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!
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Just wondering since I've seen a lot of 5-rated posts being down rated for no reason the past few days in the VC++/MFC forum. Does the read line hurt someones eyes or what? I always thought the voting facility is a way to alert other members about posts worth reading because they contain some good tips or tricks. I just feel this whole idea going down the drain due to abuse. If it's a joke that gets down rated I couldn't care less, but if the post contains something good it somewhat disturbs me. At the end of the day this behaviour may keep people with good ideas from posting. Thoughts anyone? -- Roger
It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!
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Just wondering since I've seen a lot of 5-rated posts being down rated for no reason the past few days in the VC++/MFC forum. Does the read line hurt someones eyes or what? I always thought the voting facility is a way to alert other members about posts worth reading because they contain some good tips or tricks. I just feel this whole idea going down the drain due to abuse. If it's a joke that gets down rated I couldn't care less, but if the post contains something good it somewhat disturbs me. At the end of the day this behaviour may keep people with good ideas from posting. Thoughts anyone? -- Roger
It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!
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Just wondering since I've seen a lot of 5-rated posts being down rated for no reason the past few days in the VC++/MFC forum. Does the read line hurt someones eyes or what? I always thought the voting facility is a way to alert other members about posts worth reading because they contain some good tips or tricks. I just feel this whole idea going down the drain due to abuse. If it's a joke that gets down rated I couldn't care less, but if the post contains something good it somewhat disturbs me. At the end of the day this behaviour may keep people with good ideas from posting. Thoughts anyone? -- Roger
It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!
In any open community of this size there will always be the spoilers who troll in one form or another. Visual Studio and SQL are dead. Long live Visual Studio and SQL!
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Nope. I was just wondering more in general since I think it would be a shame if this simple way of giving credit to CPians that help others for free in spare time is abused. I know, whenever I get 5-rated I think it's nice and the time spent writing the post was well spent.
It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!
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Roger Stoltz wrote:
to alert other members about posts worth reading
I like the downvoted posts as well. I want to see what he/she wrote to deserve the downvotes :laugh:. Coulda, woulda, shoulda doesn't matter if you don't.
Yep, I appreciate that and I sometimes feel the same way. But, honestly, that's pure sick curiousity, isn't it? :->
It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!
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In any open community of this size there will always be the spoilers who troll in one form or another. Visual Studio and SQL are dead. Long live Visual Studio and SQL!
True, but sad. Perhaps a reply should be required if someone wants to rate down a post, 1 or 2, that has been high rated earlier such as 4 or 5. If I get down rated I would like to know why. It's not personal, I would like to know what was wrong in my post if it's possible. Even if I consider myself quite experienced, I know I will spend the rest of my life learning.
It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!
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Just wondering since I've seen a lot of 5-rated posts being down rated for no reason the past few days in the VC++/MFC forum. Does the read line hurt someones eyes or what? I always thought the voting facility is a way to alert other members about posts worth reading because they contain some good tips or tricks. I just feel this whole idea going down the drain due to abuse. If it's a joke that gets down rated I couldn't care less, but if the post contains something good it somewhat disturbs me. At the end of the day this behaviour may keep people with good ideas from posting. Thoughts anyone? -- Roger
It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!
It's probably that intrinsically human attitude of "If I don't have my posts voted red, then no one else shall either" :) Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
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It's probably that intrinsically human attitude of "If I don't have my posts voted red, then no one else shall either" :) Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
The Ultimate Grid - The #1 MFC grid out there!Maybe we should let those who think that way vote green. Visual Studio and SQL are dead. Long live Visual Studio and SQL!
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True, but sad. Perhaps a reply should be required if someone wants to rate down a post, 1 or 2, that has been high rated earlier such as 4 or 5. If I get down rated I would like to know why. It's not personal, I would like to know what was wrong in my post if it's possible. Even if I consider myself quite experienced, I know I will spend the rest of my life learning.
It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!
Roger Stoltz wrote:
Perhaps a reply should be required if someone wants to rate down a post, 1 or 2, that has been high rated earlier such as 4 or 5.
But then what is a 3 vote? I agree but I don't feel like replying? I don't disagree or agree, I am lukewarm and have no opinion? ;) _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Maybe we should let those who think that way vote green. Visual Studio and SQL are dead. Long live Visual Studio and SQL!
Toasty0 wrote:
Maybe we should let those who think that way vote green.
so vote colors.... I think this post is a mauve: FFC7B8 All the votes get mixed and see what color comes out the other side.... :~ _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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It's probably that intrinsically human attitude of "If I don't have my posts voted red, then no one else shall either" :) Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
The Ultimate Grid - The #1 MFC grid out there!I guess so, Nish. Pityful...:sigh: Couldn't there be something done about this, such as require a reply when down rating a previously up rated post? Would that comprimise CP's freedom of speech in some way or risk having lots of posts with no content?
It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!
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Toasty0 wrote:
Maybe we should let those who think that way vote green.
so vote colors.... I think this post is a mauve: FFC7B8 All the votes get mixed and see what color comes out the other side.... :~ _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
:laugh::laugh::laugh: Maybe a form should be displayed when voting asking how the voter thinks, if he is narrow minded or not. Put in a reminder as well asking the voter to answer truthfully. ;P
It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!
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Roger Stoltz wrote:
Perhaps a reply should be required if someone wants to rate down a post, 1 or 2, that has been high rated earlier such as 4 or 5.
But then what is a 3 vote? I agree but I don't feel like replying? I don't disagree or agree, I am lukewarm and have no opinion? ;) _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
I consider a 3-vote a way to say "OK, but this is common knowledge, or least it should be" rating a previously non-rated post. If the post was previously up rated it's a way of saying "But hey, this is no rocket science". Or if the post was previously down rated: "It wasn't that bad anyway...". It should be interesting to have a survey about how fellow CPians interpret different ratings.
It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!
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Just wondering since I've seen a lot of 5-rated posts being down rated for no reason the past few days in the VC++/MFC forum. Does the read line hurt someones eyes or what? I always thought the voting facility is a way to alert other members about posts worth reading because they contain some good tips or tricks. I just feel this whole idea going down the drain due to abuse. If it's a joke that gets down rated I couldn't care less, but if the post contains something good it somewhat disturbs me. At the end of the day this behaviour may keep people with good ideas from posting. Thoughts anyone? -- Roger
It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!
Roger Stoltz wrote:
I always thought the voting facility is a way to alert other members about posts worth reading because they contain some good tips or tricks. I just feel this whole idea going down the drain due to abuse. If it's a joke that gets down rated I couldn't care less, but if the post contains something good it somewhat disturbs me. At the end of the day this behaviour may keep people with good ideas from posting.
"Drive by voting" has always been a problem. And there is very little that can be done about it. The best way to beat it, is to vote good stuff a 5. If everybody who read a post that gave good advice and a sound answer, voted then these low voters would be hidden under the weight of the good votes. Too many times in the forums, do I see a good answer and not bothering voting on it. I guess others do the same. But perhaps it is time that the community started to acknowledge publically good responses rather than agreeing in silence. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
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Roger Stoltz wrote:
I always thought the voting facility is a way to alert other members about posts worth reading because they contain some good tips or tricks. I just feel this whole idea going down the drain due to abuse. If it's a joke that gets down rated I couldn't care less, but if the post contains something good it somewhat disturbs me. At the end of the day this behaviour may keep people with good ideas from posting.
"Drive by voting" has always been a problem. And there is very little that can be done about it. The best way to beat it, is to vote good stuff a 5. If everybody who read a post that gave good advice and a sound answer, voted then these low voters would be hidden under the weight of the good votes. Too many times in the forums, do I see a good answer and not bothering voting on it. I guess others do the same. But perhaps it is time that the community started to acknowledge publically good responses rather than agreeing in silence. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
Michael P Butler wrote:
But perhaps it is time that the community started to acknowledge publically good responses rather than agreeing in silence.
Couldn't agree more. You've got my 5 for that. -- Roger
It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!
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:laugh::laugh::laugh: Maybe a form should be displayed when voting asking how the voter thinks, if he is narrow minded or not. Put in a reminder as well asking the voter to answer truthfully. ;P
It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!
Roger Stoltz wrote:
Put in a reminder as well asking the voter to answer truthfully.
One man's truth.... I vote this post a nice eggplant color 0x990066... ;P [edit: hey, at least it is green-ish] _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) -- modified at 12:29 Friday 7th April, 2006
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Roger Stoltz wrote:
I always thought the voting facility is a way to alert other members about posts worth reading because they contain some good tips or tricks. I just feel this whole idea going down the drain due to abuse. If it's a joke that gets down rated I couldn't care less, but if the post contains something good it somewhat disturbs me. At the end of the day this behaviour may keep people with good ideas from posting.
"Drive by voting" has always been a problem. And there is very little that can be done about it. The best way to beat it, is to vote good stuff a 5. If everybody who read a post that gave good advice and a sound answer, voted then these low voters would be hidden under the weight of the good votes. Too many times in the forums, do I see a good answer and not bothering voting on it. I guess others do the same. But perhaps it is time that the community started to acknowledge publically good responses rather than agreeing in silence. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
Michael P Butler wrote:
The best way to beat it, is to vote good stuff a 5.
I have found that people don't give good stuff a 5 if it is already at a 5. Then a 1 vote does a lot of damage, as people who would vote don't read the message again and you are at a low vote ranking.
Michael P Butler wrote:
"Drive by voting" has always been a problem. And there is very little that can be done about it.
This suggestion kind of defeats some of what CP stands for but... I have found that the people who do the "drive by voting" and "vote bashing" are members who really don't contribute to the site. What would happen if you were in a probation period at the start of your membership? You couldn't vote until you reach say 50 forum posts or 3 good article posts and you could be punted easily if you were being an idiot. Spaming, being extremely rude (some allowance given considering new people don't really know how things work), etc. You get say two warnings, then get punted. Let me know what you think. :) ------------------------------------------------ :EDIT: -It would also be nice for the person who writes a message to be able to see who has voted on it. It would be at least nice to know who has given some of my messages a 1 for no reason. -- modified at 13:29 Friday 7th April, 2006
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I consider a 3-vote a way to say "OK, but this is common knowledge, or least it should be" rating a previously non-rated post. If the post was previously up rated it's a way of saying "But hey, this is no rocket science". Or if the post was previously down rated: "It wasn't that bad anyway...". It should be interesting to have a survey about how fellow CPians interpret different ratings.
It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!
Roger Stoltz wrote:
a survey about how fellow CPians interpret different ratings.
which will tell you the sample based on who took the survey, which may not match who is currently voting. ;) _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Roger Stoltz wrote:
I always thought the voting facility is a way to alert other members about posts worth reading because they contain some good tips or tricks. I just feel this whole idea going down the drain due to abuse. If it's a joke that gets down rated I couldn't care less, but if the post contains something good it somewhat disturbs me. At the end of the day this behaviour may keep people with good ideas from posting.
"Drive by voting" has always been a problem. And there is very little that can be done about it. The best way to beat it, is to vote good stuff a 5. If everybody who read a post that gave good advice and a sound answer, voted then these low voters would be hidden under the weight of the good votes. Too many times in the forums, do I see a good answer and not bothering voting on it. I guess others do the same. But perhaps it is time that the community started to acknowledge publically good responses rather than agreeing in silence. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
Michael P Butler wrote:
But perhaps it is time that the community started to acknowledge publically good responses rather than agreeing in silence.
But then you have 1-15 messages that all say "I agree" or "I disagree" which I think is more data storage than a vote. You can lead a reader to the forum, but you cannot make him post... and sometimes for the sake of your SQL server, that is a good thing.... _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)