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  • D Dan Neely

    not by default. afaik if you're sending raw pop commands via telnet it's possible to request a messagebody without deleting it from the server. I don't know what mail clients (if any) provide this behavior in thier gui, nor do I know if gmail's pop server allows this behavior.

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    Mircea Grelus
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    dan neely wrote:

    if you're sending raw pop commands via telnet it's possible to request a messagebody without deleting it from the server

    The messages are not deleted from the server. They are marked somehow as downloaded, by the server. The thing is that it's probably marking them just as downloaded with no extra options. There is some sort of mechanism to mark the messages as downloaded by certain computer (via IP, or computer name or something). I've got two other emaila ccounts that I receive all messages on the home as well as the work computer. And the messages still reside on the server. regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.

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      dan neely wrote:

      if you're sending raw pop commands via telnet it's possible to request a messagebody without deleting it from the server

      The messages are not deleted from the server. They are marked somehow as downloaded, by the server. The thing is that it's probably marking them just as downloaded with no extra options. There is some sort of mechanism to mark the messages as downloaded by certain computer (via IP, or computer name or something). I've got two other emaila ccounts that I receive all messages on the home as well as the work computer. And the messages still reside on the server. regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.

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      Russell Morris
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      My personal email is managed by my web host's webmail program (SmarterMail, I think). I access this from home and from work using Thunderbird (mozilla.org[^]). At work, my Thunderbird setup for that account has the 'Leave messages on server' checkbox checked. At home, that box is unchecked. I make sure to not run Thunderbird at home when I'm not there. At work, I can read all incoming mail without problems. When I get home, I fire it up, and it downloads everything and removes it from the server. It seems as though Thunderbird properly honors the 'Leave messages on server' setting, so I'd be willing to bet that if you used two instances of Thunderbird to read your POP mail from both locations with that setting, you'd get what you're looking for. YMMV though...

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        My personal email is managed by my web host's webmail program (SmarterMail, I think). I access this from home and from work using Thunderbird (mozilla.org[^]). At work, my Thunderbird setup for that account has the 'Leave messages on server' checkbox checked. At home, that box is unchecked. I make sure to not run Thunderbird at home when I'm not there. At work, I can read all incoming mail without problems. When I get home, I fire it up, and it downloads everything and removes it from the server. It seems as though Thunderbird properly honors the 'Leave messages on server' setting, so I'd be willing to bet that if you used two instances of Thunderbird to read your POP mail from both locations with that setting, you'd get what you're looking for. YMMV though...

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        Steve Mayfield
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        Outlook Express works that way too... Steve

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        • R Russell Morris

          My personal email is managed by my web host's webmail program (SmarterMail, I think). I access this from home and from work using Thunderbird (mozilla.org[^]). At work, my Thunderbird setup for that account has the 'Leave messages on server' checkbox checked. At home, that box is unchecked. I make sure to not run Thunderbird at home when I'm not there. At work, I can read all incoming mail without problems. When I get home, I fire it up, and it downloads everything and removes it from the server. It seems as though Thunderbird properly honors the 'Leave messages on server' setting, so I'd be willing to bet that if you used two instances of Thunderbird to read your POP mail from both locations with that setting, you'd get what you're looking for. YMMV though...

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          Mircea Grelus
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          Russell Morris wrote:

          My personal email is managed by my web host's webmail program

          This is the case of other email accounts of mine which work just fine from home and work. Gmail apparently doesn't. regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.

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          • M Mircea Grelus

            Is it possible to confugure Gmail acount so that two mail applications can receive all messages which arrive on a account? My time is shared between my home and work computer. Mail I receive in Outlook at work does not come in, on my home computer and viceversa. Yes, the option to leave messages on server is checked :) regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.

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            Albert Pascual
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            Get a blackberry My eMail control My Blog

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            • M Mircea Grelus

              Is it possible to confugure Gmail acount so that two mail applications can receive all messages which arrive on a account? My time is shared between my home and work computer. Mail I receive in Outlook at work does not come in, on my home computer and viceversa. Yes, the option to leave messages on server is checked :) regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.

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              Steve Holle
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              I have the opposite problem. I have dialup at home and occasionally someone sends me their entire photo album and my connection times out. I have tried to go online from work and deleted the file and it still tries to download that file. It must get stuck in a queue somewhere. The only solution I've found is to read all the email on line, and set the options to only send emails from this date forward. I sure wish gmail had a flush button.

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                I have the opposite problem. I have dialup at home and occasionally someone sends me their entire photo album and my connection times out. I have tried to go online from work and deleted the file and it still tries to download that file. It must get stuck in a queue somewhere. The only solution I've found is to read all the email on line, and set the options to only send emails from this date forward. I sure wish gmail had a flush button.

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                Mircea Grelus
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                Well it's still a beta. I think they'll fix these issues. Do you know where I can post some feedback regarding Gmail? There usually are places like that for beta products. If a lot of people need certain features, they might just implement them. regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.

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                  Well it's still a beta. I think they'll fix these issues. Do you know where I can post some feedback regarding Gmail? There usually are places like that for beta products. If a lot of people need certain features, they might just implement them. regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.

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                  Steve Holle
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                  google=beta right?

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                    google=beta right?

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                    Mircea Grelus
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                    Gmail == beta :) regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.

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                      Gmail == beta :) regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.

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                      Steve Holle
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                      You're testing, I'm assigning.

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                        You're testing, I'm assigning.

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                        Mircea Grelus
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                        you're a camelCase iGuess. regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.

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                          you're a camelCase iGuess. regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.

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                          Steve Holle
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                          Um, I don't get it?

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                            Um, I don't get it?

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                            Mircea Grelus
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                            Coding standard especially used for .NET. Variable names are composed of joined names first one starting with lowercase following capitalized. camelCaseLooksLikeThis. Of course there is also UpperCamelCase. But for .Net the first is wider used. regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.

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                              Coding standard especially used for .NET. Variable names are composed of joined names first one starting with lowercase following capitalized. camelCaseLooksLikeThis. Of course there is also UpperCamelCase. But for .Net the first is wider used. regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.

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                              Steve Holle
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                              Thanks. 'Fraid I'm not up on .NET.

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                                Is it possible to confugure Gmail acount so that two mail applications can receive all messages which arrive on a account? My time is shared between my home and work computer. Mail I receive in Outlook at work does not come in, on my home computer and viceversa. Yes, the option to leave messages on server is checked :) regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.

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                                Michael Dunn
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                                That's an email client problem, not a server problem. Some clients (I know Eudora does this, I don't know about others) can be set to check the ID for each message (using the UIDL POP command) and keep track of which IDs it's downloaded, and ignore the "has been read" flag on each mail. If your client does this, then you can use it in two locations and get the result you want.

                                --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | NEW!! PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ

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                                  That's an email client problem, not a server problem. Some clients (I know Eudora does this, I don't know about others) can be set to check the ID for each message (using the UIDL POP command) and keep track of which IDs it's downloaded, and ignore the "has been read" flag on each mail. If your client does this, then you can use it in two locations and get the result you want.

                                  --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | NEW!! PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ

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                                  Mircea Grelus
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                                  I'm using Outlook and for the other accounts that happens. Except for the Gmail one. Any extra option somewhere in Outlook that I'm not aware of? regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.

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                                    I'm using Outlook and for the other accounts that happens. Except for the Gmail one. Any extra option somewhere in Outlook that I'm not aware of? regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.

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                                    Michael Dunn
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                                    Not sure, as I said I only know Eudora. *shrug* Gmail's POP might not support UIDL, if that's the case then you're SOL

                                    --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | NEW!! PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ

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                                      Thanks. 'Fraid I'm not up on .NET.

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                                      Mircea Grelus
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                                      You should give it a try sometimes. It's a great playground. :) regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.

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                                      • M Michael Dunn

                                        Not sure, as I said I only know Eudora. *shrug* Gmail's POP might not support UIDL, if that's the case then you're SOL

                                        --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | NEW!! PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ

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                                        Mircea Grelus
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                                        SOL ?! regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.

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                                          SOL ?! regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.

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                                          Michael Dunn
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                                          sorry, out of luck (that's the kid-sister-approved version) --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | NEW!! PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ

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