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    Haim Yulzari
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    Has anybody heard of (or used) a programming environment/language called M-Technology (formerly known as Mumps)? Many years ago I was a Mumps programmer (and quite a good one) and I wonder how wide spread is this language today. Haim

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      Has anybody heard of (or used) a programming environment/language called M-Technology (formerly known as Mumps)? Many years ago I was a Mumps programmer (and quite a good one) and I wonder how wide spread is this language today. Haim

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      Mumps Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?

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        Has anybody heard of (or used) a programming environment/language called M-Technology (formerly known as Mumps)? Many years ago I was a Mumps programmer (and quite a good one) and I wonder how wide spread is this language today. Haim

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        Yes - the military (specifically the air force) still uses it. I know precisely one MUMPS programmer, and he wishes he wasn't one. I was on a project last year that used MUMPS. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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          Has anybody heard of (or used) a programming environment/language called M-Technology (formerly known as Mumps)? Many years ago I was a Mumps programmer (and quite a good one) and I wonder how wide spread is this language today. Haim

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          I worked in a company that had a MUMPS system, but they converted it to VB. Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 Trank

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            I worked in a company that had a MUMPS system, but they converted it to VB. Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 Trank

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            Mauricio Ritter wrote: but they converted it to VB. Before everyone else jumps on this gem: "So it went from bad to worse huh?" or "Now not just the side components don't work, nothing works, right?" or "First they had MUMPS and now they have VB, poor buggers" :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront

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              Mauricio Ritter wrote: but they converted it to VB. Before everyone else jumps on this gem: "So it went from bad to worse huh?" or "Now not just the side components don't work, nothing works, right?" or "First they had MUMPS and now they have VB, poor buggers" :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront

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              Paul Watson wrote: "Now not just the side components don't work, nothing works, right?" Right answer ! Actually the system was converted to VB by the same programmers that created the MUMPS system. Can´t expect much of their first try on VB programming. Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 Trank

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              • H Haim Yulzari

                Has anybody heard of (or used) a programming environment/language called M-Technology (formerly known as Mumps)? Many years ago I was a Mumps programmer (and quite a good one) and I wonder how wide spread is this language today. Haim

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                over here Mumps is an illness that`s quite dangerous for little childs

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                  Paul Watson wrote: "Now not just the side components don't work, nothing works, right?" Right answer ! Actually the system was converted to VB by the same programmers that created the MUMPS system. Can´t expect much of their first try on VB programming. Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 Trank

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                  Mauricio Ritter wrote: Can´t expect much of their first try on VB programming Or the second, or the third, or ..... ;P "Why kill time, when you can kill yourself?" - Cabaret Voltaire

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                    Mauricio Ritter wrote: but they converted it to VB. Before everyone else jumps on this gem: "So it went from bad to worse huh?" or "Now not just the side components don't work, nothing works, right?" or "First they had MUMPS and now they have VB, poor buggers" :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront

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                    Damn you, Paul Watson. Beat me to it. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little.

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                      Has anybody heard of (or used) a programming environment/language called M-Technology (formerly known as Mumps)? Many years ago I was a Mumps programmer (and quite a good one) and I wonder how wide spread is this language today. Haim

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                      Sure have! I worked next door to the DEC MUMPS group at Digital for years! <sigh> Memories... /ravi "There is always one more bug..." http://www.ravib.com ravib@ravib.com

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                        Has anybody heard of (or used) a programming environment/language called M-Technology (formerly known as Mumps)? Many years ago I was a Mumps programmer (and quite a good one) and I wonder how wide spread is this language today. Haim

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                        Used it, loathed it - sorry! I think it's the worst programming language ever. I am quoted being (constructively) critical in the M-Technology and MUMPS Language FAQ, although the e-mail address quoted for me is now way out of date. In the early nineties I worked for the English Health Service in Bristol for a year, where almost all the systems were written in MUMPS (much of it old-style, which may have coloured my views somewhat). Gavin Greig

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                          Sure have! I worked next door to the DEC MUMPS group at Digital for years! <sigh> Memories... /ravi "There is always one more bug..." http://www.ravib.com ravib@ravib.com

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                          Ravi Bhavnani wrote: Sure have! I worked next door to the DEC MUMPS group at Digital for years! Memories... Ah... those would be the rocket scientists who tried to explain the MUMPS "global" storage structure in their documentation with a diagram which had "down arrows" pointing to the right and "right arrows" pointing upwards? :omg: :eek: ;P Aside from MUMPS, which I don't think even DEC could get right :-), DEC always seemed to be a company with some great ideas and expertise who made real dumb mistakes that somehow blew it all. (I'm afraid I can't give examples now, but I remember that was my impression at the time.) What were your impressions from the inside? Gavin Greig

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                            Ravi Bhavnani wrote: Sure have! I worked next door to the DEC MUMPS group at Digital for years! Memories... Ah... those would be the rocket scientists who tried to explain the MUMPS "global" storage structure in their documentation with a diagram which had "down arrows" pointing to the right and "right arrows" pointing upwards? :omg: :eek: ;P Aside from MUMPS, which I don't think even DEC could get right :-), DEC always seemed to be a company with some great ideas and expertise who made real dumb mistakes that somehow blew it all. (I'm afraid I can't give examples now, but I remember that was my impression at the time.) What were your impressions from the inside? Gavin Greig

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                            Gavin Greig wrote: DEC always seemed to be a company with some great ideas and expertise who made real dumb mistakes that somehow blew it all Aye! Imho, the arrogance of the sales teams led to our downfall. We were pushing a superior (VAX) architecture that sold itself to techies, while IBM was quietly handholding their large business clients with 24x7 onsite support. Guess who won? :) Moral of the story: the only reason you stay in business is because your customers allow you to. /ravi "There is always one more bug..." http://www.ravib.com ravib@ravib.com

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