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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    I'm trying to install the Platform SDK, and Internet Exploder keeps coming up with an error dialog that says explorer needs to be re-started, and asks if I want to send a bug report to Microslop. The IE version on the machine is 6.02 This happens on both the MSDN October and February Platform SDK CD's, so I don't think it's a problem with either of the CD's. Anyone heard of this problem before? "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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    That's why I gave up on installing the latest MSDN issue - it insists on installing IE6. I don't want it, and I have online services I need that will not work with it. I don't mind that Micro$oft frequently ships defective products, but I resent the fact that they often make them codependent!

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      That's why I gave up on installing the latest MSDN issue - it insists on installing IE6. I don't want it, and I have online services I need that will not work with it. I don't mind that Micro$oft frequently ships defective products, but I resent the fact that they often make them codependent!

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      Well, our sys admin setup the machine and updated IE 5.5 to 6.0 (his decision before I even got the machine). I asked him about it, and he's gonna re-install 5.5 and see if that doesn't fix my problem. This is precisely the problem I have with Microsoft. They insist on trying to make things easier for us, but when they do, we have to sacrifice compatibility, configurability, and many many times, usability. And the more technically savvy you are, the less likely it is that you're going to like what Microsoft does. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        Well, our sys admin setup the machine and updated IE 5.5 to 6.0 (his decision before I even got the machine). I asked him about it, and he's gonna re-install 5.5 and see if that doesn't fix my problem. This is precisely the problem I have with Microsoft. They insist on trying to make things easier for us, but when they do, we have to sacrifice compatibility, configurability, and many many times, usability. And the more technically savvy you are, the less likely it is that you're going to like what Microsoft does. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: And the more technically savvy you are, the less likely it is that you're going to like what Microsoft does. I must be quite savvy - I dislike intensely almost everything Micro$oft does to "help" me. It nearly always breaks something, or causes me hours of needless effort undoing the damage they've done. Good luck...

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          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: And the more technically savvy you are, the less likely it is that you're going to like what Microsoft does. I must be quite savvy - I dislike intensely almost everything Micro$oft does to "help" me. It nearly always breaks something, or causes me hours of needless effort undoing the damage they've done. Good luck...

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          And the more technically savvy you are, the less likely it is that you're going to like what Microsoft does. A.K.A. "And the more you try to use undocumented 'features', the more you end up beating your head against the wall when these 'features' no longer work." :) Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?

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          • realJSOPR realJSOP

            I'm trying to install the Platform SDK, and Internet Exploder keeps coming up with an error dialog that says explorer needs to be re-started, and asks if I want to send a bug report to Microslop. The IE version on the machine is 6.02 This happens on both the MSDN October and February Platform SDK CD's, so I don't think it's a problem with either of the CD's. Anyone heard of this problem before? "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            I have the platform SDK CD. I want to install what's on the CD. WHY DO I NEED TO USE THE FUCKIN WEB BROWSER TO DO THIS!?!?!? WHY DOES THE FUCKIN MICROSOFT WEB SITE GET INVOLVED AT ALL!!!!???? "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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              And the more technically savvy you are, the less likely it is that you're going to like what Microsoft does. A.K.A. "And the more you try to use undocumented 'features', the more you end up beating your head against the wall when these 'features' no longer work." :) Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?

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              I recognize that you're using humor here, but I'm not at all amused at the way this shit works. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                Well, our sys admin setup the machine and updated IE 5.5 to 6.0 (his decision before I even got the machine). I asked him about it, and he's gonna re-install 5.5 and see if that doesn't fix my problem. This is precisely the problem I have with Microsoft. They insist on trying to make things easier for us, but when they do, we have to sacrifice compatibility, configurability, and many many times, usability. And the more technically savvy you are, the less likely it is that you're going to like what Microsoft does. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: They insist on trying to make things easier for us, but when they do, we have to sacrifice compatibility, configurability, and many many times, usability. yes. 100%. exactly. right on. word to your mutha. then on the other hand, you have Linux, which is written by the technically savvy for the technically savvy; so it's often short on ease of use but high on configurability. i haven't played with a Mac in years... i wonder where they are on the ease vs. flexibility curve these days... -c


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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  I have the platform SDK CD. I want to install what's on the CD. WHY DO I NEED TO USE THE FUCKIN WEB BROWSER TO DO THIS!?!?!? WHY DOES THE FUCKIN MICROSOFT WEB SITE GET INVOLVED AT ALL!!!!???? "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  Navin
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                  Gotta love that bundling of the OS and the Web Browser, huh? :-D I think it has to do with their HTML help stuff, though. Why simply adding new information to MSDN requires a browser update though is beyond me. The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    I have the platform SDK CD. I want to install what's on the CD. WHY DO I NEED TO USE THE FUCKIN WEB BROWSER TO DO THIS!?!?!? WHY DOES THE FUCKIN MICROSOFT WEB SITE GET INVOLVED AT ALL!!!!???? "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    Henry Jacobs
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                    You keep on complaining like that and they will make the next version of Visual Studio an Internet Explorer component.

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      I'm trying to install the Platform SDK, and Internet Exploder keeps coming up with an error dialog that says explorer needs to be re-started, and asks if I want to send a bug report to Microslop. The IE version on the machine is 6.02 This happens on both the MSDN October and February Platform SDK CD's, so I don't think it's a problem with either of the CD's. Anyone heard of this problem before? "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      I also tried with February Platform SDK CD's, but no luck until know. I have alrey IE6, but even then it is not working. During the install process it tells something about missing files, but they are there. Moved the whole to a directory, but still no luck. The last PSDK installed sucessfully is the August Version. They have an Internet upgrade version, which is also not working. Is it so difficult for MS to create a decent working setup . This whole DHTML GUI for the installation sucks big time :mad: I hope they will come to their senses and use a normal MSI setup next time. This can't be the future. If this is the forecast about how the NET future will look alike, then we all a really in for it. I am a signature virus! Help me spread and copy me to your sig! Ooops I am infected

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                        I also tried with February Platform SDK CD's, but no luck until know. I have alrey IE6, but even then it is not working. During the install process it tells something about missing files, but they are there. Moved the whole to a directory, but still no luck. The last PSDK installed sucessfully is the August Version. They have an Internet upgrade version, which is also not working. Is it so difficult for MS to create a decent working setup . This whole DHTML GUI for the installation sucks big time :mad: I hope they will come to their senses and use a normal MSI setup next time. This can't be the future. If this is the forecast about how the NET future will look alike, then we all a really in for it. I am a signature virus! Help me spread and copy me to your sig! Ooops I am infected

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                        Martin Bohring wrote: This can't be the future. If this is the forecast about how the NET future will look alike, then we all a really in for it. You know, that is a pretty good point. I know I want to steer clear of .NET until/unless I am bloody sure our customers can actually install it correctly. Hope the .NET redistributables are better than the SDK installs... :-O The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          I recognize that you're using humor here, but I'm not at all amused at the way this shit works. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                          Roger Wright
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                          I don't blame you, John. Why do they work so hard at making it as difficult and unreliable as possible? For the challenge of it?

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                          • realJSOPR realJSOP

                            I have the platform SDK CD. I want to install what's on the CD. WHY DO I NEED TO USE THE FUCKIN WEB BROWSER TO DO THIS!?!?!? WHY DOES THE FUCKIN MICROSOFT WEB SITE GET INVOLVED AT ALL!!!!???? "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                            Roger Wright
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                            Why indeed? I recall installing VS5 - it could not be done without installing IE3.02 - but I was already using 4.x, a couple of generations newer! And since then I was on a modem, downloading the current version after the install took fourteen hours. Morons....

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                              Martin Bohring wrote: This can't be the future. If this is the forecast about how the NET future will look alike, then we all a really in for it. You know, that is a pretty good point. I know I want to steer clear of .NET until/unless I am bloody sure our customers can actually install it correctly. Hope the .NET redistributables are better than the SDK installs... :-O The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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                              Roger Stewart
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                              Navin wrote: Hope the .NET redistributables are better than the SDK installs... Yeah, but you have to redist. all 20 some-odd-Megabytes of them (.NET)! Roger Stewart "I Owe, I Owe, it's off to work I go..."

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                                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: They insist on trying to make things easier for us, but when they do, we have to sacrifice compatibility, configurability, and many many times, usability. yes. 100%. exactly. right on. word to your mutha. then on the other hand, you have Linux, which is written by the technically savvy for the technically savvy; so it's often short on ease of use but high on configurability. i haven't played with a Mac in years... i wonder where they are on the ease vs. flexibility curve these days... -c


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                                Chris Losinger wrote: i haven't played with a Mac in years... i wonder where they are on the ease vs. flexibility curve these days... You can easily do anything on a Mac that you could do on an Etch-a-Sketch...

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