copycats
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recently I made a good program for my firm and showed it to my friends. But they dont believe me. They say its all cut and paste from internet. Everything is available on net.. classes and all. I agree I took help from some forums. But I disagree that It was all cut and paste. I built good algorithms and achieved few good things by my logic. I think all coders have to take help from net on regular basis.. does this mean we are copy cats?
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recently I made a good program for my firm and showed it to my friends. But they dont believe me. They say its all cut and paste from internet. Everything is available on net.. classes and all. I agree I took help from some forums. But I disagree that It was all cut and paste. I built good algorithms and achieved few good things by my logic. I think all coders have to take help from net on regular basis.. does this mean we are copy cats?
It pays the same either way. ---------- Some problems are so complex that you have to be highly intelligent and well informed just to be undecided about them. - Laurence J. Peters
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It pays the same either way. ---------- Some problems are so complex that you have to be highly intelligent and well informed just to be undecided about them. - Laurence J. Peters
Nope. I think its fine to "reuse" code thats available to us by way of the internet. Why reinvent the wheel? Its almost impossible for me personally to remember the syntax of all the different web technologies. Sometimes i'll google it and change what i need to make it work. In fact, I know very senior developers that do that same. So no, You (and me) are not copy cats. :)
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recently I made a good program for my firm and showed it to my friends. But they dont believe me. They say its all cut and paste from internet. Everything is available on net.. classes and all. I agree I took help from some forums. But I disagree that It was all cut and paste. I built good algorithms and achieved few good things by my logic. I think all coders have to take help from net on regular basis.. does this mean we are copy cats?
marcoslav wrote:
say its all cut and paste from internet
You have no idea how much skills it takes to put together a working program using cut and paste from all those sites :-D seriously though i have seen people mess up real bad using cut and paste :)
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recently I made a good program for my firm and showed it to my friends. But they dont believe me. They say its all cut and paste from internet. Everything is available on net.. classes and all. I agree I took help from some forums. But I disagree that It was all cut and paste. I built good algorithms and achieved few good things by my logic. I think all coders have to take help from net on regular basis.. does this mean we are copy cats?
This post is created by copying and pasting letters from the Internet. Actually not, because that would be too time consuming, but you get the point. Tell your friends that. Tell you friends that they probably haven't had an original thought in years because everything they think and say has been copied and pasted into their brains from their girlfriends/wives. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
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recently I made a good program for my firm and showed it to my friends. But they dont believe me. They say its all cut and paste from internet. Everything is available on net.. classes and all. I agree I took help from some forums. But I disagree that It was all cut and paste. I built good algorithms and achieved few good things by my logic. I think all coders have to take help from net on regular basis.. does this mean we are copy cats?
There's nothing wrong with using code found on the net. As long as you understand it. I've seen people get burned by copy paste programming. But if it has already been done why reinvent the wheel? Also, if those "friends" don't beleive you then are they really friends? Either way, if you are making your firm money, make sure you get paid. Trust me your end users don't care if you use copy paste or write every single line yourself. how vital enterprise application are for proactive organizations leveraging collective synergy to think outside the box and formulate their key objectives into a win-win game plan with a quality-driven approach that focuses on empowering key players to drive-up their core competencies and increase expectations with an all-around initiative to drive up the bottom-line. But of course, that's all a "high level" overview of things --thedailywtf 3/21/06
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recently I made a good program for my firm and showed it to my friends. But they dont believe me. They say its all cut and paste from internet. Everything is available on net.. classes and all. I agree I took help from some forums. But I disagree that It was all cut and paste. I built good algorithms and achieved few good things by my logic. I think all coders have to take help from net on regular basis.. does this mean we are copy cats?
If I see something I can use in a program/project I copy it and use it, as long as the source allows it of course. And usually commenting it in the code. I can't see any problem with that. That's the whole point with collaborating sites like CP, forums etc.
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recently I made a good program for my firm and showed it to my friends. But they dont believe me. They say its all cut and paste from internet. Everything is available on net.. classes and all. I agree I took help from some forums. But I disagree that It was all cut and paste. I built good algorithms and achieved few good things by my logic. I think all coders have to take help from net on regular basis.. does this mean we are copy cats?
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This post is created by copying and pasting letters from the Internet. Actually not, because that would be too time consuming, but you get the point. Tell your friends that. Tell you friends that they probably haven't had an original thought in years because everything they think and say has been copied and pasted into their brains from their girlfriends/wives. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
Marc Clifton wrote:
Tell you friends that they probably haven't had an original thought in years because everything they think and say has been copied and pasted into their brains from their girlfriends/wives.
:laugh::laugh: That's a good one.
Cédric Moonen Software developer
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My house has doors in it that are just like doors in TONS of other houses. Not to mention the linoleum in the kitchen. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who owns that couch, either. It's still my house.
My house has doors in it that are just like doors in TONS of other houses. Not to mention the linoleum in the kitchen. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who owns that couch, either. It's still my house. :-D
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recently I made a good program for my firm and showed it to my friends. But they dont believe me. They say its all cut and paste from internet. Everything is available on net.. classes and all. I agree I took help from some forums. But I disagree that It was all cut and paste. I built good algorithms and achieved few good things by my logic. I think all coders have to take help from net on regular basis.. does this mean we are copy cats?
marcoslav wrote:
recently I made a good program for my firm and showed it to my friends. But they dont believe me. They say its all cut and paste from internet. Everything is available on net.. classes and all. I agree I took help from some forums. But I disagree that It was all cut and paste. I built good algorithms and achieved few good things by my logic. I think all coders have to take help from net on regular basis.. does this mean we are copy cats?
The Wright brothers made an aircraft, they were not the first, but they are remembered whereas the first inventer of the airplane is forgotten. Two other crafts in Europe left the ground, but neither were feasable as a permanent aircraft, once crashed they were lost because they were built from the ground up independant of all other technologies. They were mistakes even before they left the ground and their families still fight for recognition of their flights even though the invention was doomed before they left the ground. The Wright brothers used bicycle parts, ready made parts that could be used to mass-produce airplanes once it was used correctly for flight. Before their airplane left the ground it was serviceable, reproduceable, and an industry standard. They are recognized as the fathers of flight not just for that first few seconds off the ground, which the other two families still fight over, but because their product had a future BEFORE it left the ground. Writing EVERYTHING from scratch is rediculous and wastes valuable time. How often has the wheel been re-invented? How often the telephone? Look them square in the eye and tell them when they put together their own computer without using commercially available "parts" but by etching every circuit by hand, they can complain about reusing code. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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This post is created by copying and pasting letters from the Internet. Actually not, because that would be too time consuming, but you get the point. Tell your friends that. Tell you friends that they probably haven't had an original thought in years because everything they think and say has been copied and pasted into their brains from their girlfriends/wives. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
Marc Clifton wrote:
would be too time consuming
Excellent point. I only reuse code if it fits into the new work very well, with little or no modifications.
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Nope. I think its fine to "reuse" code thats available to us by way of the internet. Why reinvent the wheel? Its almost impossible for me personally to remember the syntax of all the different web technologies. Sometimes i'll google it and change what i need to make it work. In fact, I know very senior developers that do that same. So no, You (and me) are not copy cats. :)
I think you intended to reply to marcoslav. ---------- Some problems are so complex that you have to be highly intelligent and well informed just to be undecided about them. - Laurence J. Peters
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marcoslav wrote:
recently I made a good program for my firm and showed it to my friends. But they dont believe me. They say its all cut and paste from internet. Everything is available on net.. classes and all. I agree I took help from some forums. But I disagree that It was all cut and paste. I built good algorithms and achieved few good things by my logic. I think all coders have to take help from net on regular basis.. does this mean we are copy cats?
The Wright brothers made an aircraft, they were not the first, but they are remembered whereas the first inventer of the airplane is forgotten. Two other crafts in Europe left the ground, but neither were feasable as a permanent aircraft, once crashed they were lost because they were built from the ground up independant of all other technologies. They were mistakes even before they left the ground and their families still fight for recognition of their flights even though the invention was doomed before they left the ground. The Wright brothers used bicycle parts, ready made parts that could be used to mass-produce airplanes once it was used correctly for flight. Before their airplane left the ground it was serviceable, reproduceable, and an industry standard. They are recognized as the fathers of flight not just for that first few seconds off the ground, which the other two families still fight over, but because their product had a future BEFORE it left the ground. Writing EVERYTHING from scratch is rediculous and wastes valuable time. How often has the wheel been re-invented? How often the telephone? Look them square in the eye and tell them when they put together their own computer without using commercially available "parts" but by etching every circuit by hand, they can complain about reusing code. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
Look them square in the eye and tell them when they put together their own computer without using commercially available "parts" but by etching every circuit by hand, they can complain about reusing code.
Nice one, Jeff. Oh, and when they etch out the circuit board by hand, it needs to run just as fast and well, as anything that can be bought off the shelf.
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recently I made a good program for my firm and showed it to my friends. But they dont believe me. They say its all cut and paste from internet. Everything is available on net.. classes and all. I agree I took help from some forums. But I disagree that It was all cut and paste. I built good algorithms and achieved few good things by my logic. I think all coders have to take help from net on regular basis.. does this mean we are copy cats?
marcoslav wrote:
I think all coders have to take help from net on regular basis
Yes, the net is a helpful source. Especially here at Code Project :)
marcoslav wrote:
does this mean we are copy cats?
No! By all means, any code that I have used here, if and when I make my programs available to the public (for FREE or for FEE), rest can be assured that the author of the code that I "borrowed" will be recognized for his or her hard work :) PJC
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recently I made a good program for my firm and showed it to my friends. But they dont believe me. They say its all cut and paste from internet. Everything is available on net.. classes and all. I agree I took help from some forums. But I disagree that It was all cut and paste. I built good algorithms and achieved few good things by my logic. I think all coders have to take help from net on regular basis.. does this mean we are copy cats?
That's what friends are for! When you work hard to climb up that ladder, they're there to knock you back down to their level. Seriously, it doesn't matter what you did to create your program, it's hard for a friend to acknowledge your best achievements because that makes them look worse. If your program is good and you make money off of it, go out and buy yourself a big screen and then invite your friends over to check it out. I guarantee they'll say that you got the wrong one, or you didn't get all the cool features, or they like their TV better. It's just the way it is.
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Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
Look them square in the eye and tell them when they put together their own computer without using commercially available "parts" but by etching every circuit by hand, they can complain about reusing code.
Nice one, Jeff. Oh, and when they etch out the circuit board by hand, it needs to run just as fast and well, as anything that can be bought off the shelf.
Paul Conrad wrote:
Nice one, Jeff. Oh, and when they etch out the circuit board by hand, it needs to run just as fast and well, as anything that can be bought off the shelf.
after that they can hand-pour all the metal parts of their car and make sure it gets as good or better gas-mileage, generate their own electricity without buying parts or equipment, making their own generator parts and wiring, create their own LCD or TV Tube based Television set, again fashioning their own materials. I will even be flexible and let them choose if they want to go digital and etch all their own TV chips, or hand blow their own TV glass. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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marcoslav wrote:
recently I made a good program for my firm and showed it to my friends. But they dont believe me. They say its all cut and paste from internet. Everything is available on net.. classes and all. I agree I took help from some forums. But I disagree that It was all cut and paste. I built good algorithms and achieved few good things by my logic. I think all coders have to take help from net on regular basis.. does this mean we are copy cats?
The Wright brothers made an aircraft, they were not the first, but they are remembered whereas the first inventer of the airplane is forgotten. Two other crafts in Europe left the ground, but neither were feasable as a permanent aircraft, once crashed they were lost because they were built from the ground up independant of all other technologies. They were mistakes even before they left the ground and their families still fight for recognition of their flights even though the invention was doomed before they left the ground. The Wright brothers used bicycle parts, ready made parts that could be used to mass-produce airplanes once it was used correctly for flight. Before their airplane left the ground it was serviceable, reproduceable, and an industry standard. They are recognized as the fathers of flight not just for that first few seconds off the ground, which the other two families still fight over, but because their product had a future BEFORE it left the ground. Writing EVERYTHING from scratch is rediculous and wastes valuable time. How often has the wheel been re-invented? How often the telephone? Look them square in the eye and tell them when they put together their own computer without using commercially available "parts" but by etching every circuit by hand, they can complain about reusing code. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
The Wright brothers made an aircraft, they were not the first, but they are remembered whereas the first inventer of the airplane is forgotten. Two other crafts in Europe left the ground, but neither were feasable as a permanent aircraft, once crashed they were lost because they were built from the ground up independant of all other technologies.
There was also Richard Pearse from Cornwall whom it looks likely got airborne 9 months before the Wrights, although a replica has proven difficult to get off the ground!
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marcoslav wrote:
recently I made a good program for my firm and showed it to my friends. But they dont believe me. They say its all cut and paste from internet. Everything is available on net.. classes and all. I agree I took help from some forums. But I disagree that It was all cut and paste. I built good algorithms and achieved few good things by my logic. I think all coders have to take help from net on regular basis.. does this mean we are copy cats?
The Wright brothers made an aircraft, they were not the first, but they are remembered whereas the first inventer of the airplane is forgotten. Two other crafts in Europe left the ground, but neither were feasable as a permanent aircraft, once crashed they were lost because they were built from the ground up independant of all other technologies. They were mistakes even before they left the ground and their families still fight for recognition of their flights even though the invention was doomed before they left the ground. The Wright brothers used bicycle parts, ready made parts that could be used to mass-produce airplanes once it was used correctly for flight. Before their airplane left the ground it was serviceable, reproduceable, and an industry standard. They are recognized as the fathers of flight not just for that first few seconds off the ground, which the other two families still fight over, but because their product had a future BEFORE it left the ground. Writing EVERYTHING from scratch is rediculous and wastes valuable time. How often has the wheel been re-invented? How often the telephone? Look them square in the eye and tell them when they put together their own computer without using commercially available "parts" but by etching every circuit by hand, they can complain about reusing code. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Look them square in the eye and tell them when they put together their own computer without using commercially available "parts" but by etching every circuit by hand, they can complain about reusing code. Amen to that! I've seen better runs in my shorts! - Patches O'Houlihan
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Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
The Wright brothers made an aircraft, they were not the first, but they are remembered whereas the first inventer of the airplane is forgotten. Two other crafts in Europe left the ground, but neither were feasable as a permanent aircraft, once crashed they were lost because they were built from the ground up independant of all other technologies.
There was also Richard Pearse from Cornwall whom it looks likely got airborne 9 months before the Wrights, although a replica has proven difficult to get off the ground!
viaduct wrote:
There was also Richard Pearse from Cornwall whom it looks likely got airborne 9 months before the Wrights, although a replica has proven difficult to get off the ground!
One of the difficulties even if the families of these people ever prove their claims and there is ample evidence that at least one will. They will, at the most, get a "side-note" in the history books. Because beyond being the first, the wright brothers created assembly line aircraft, they created flight as an industry rather than a hobby. They had a future, as I said, before they took off the ground -- the others did not. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)