future of programming
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Albert Einstein. wrote:
You have do not have a way to make yourself better and provide a future other than your own to your children.
:confused: I dont know where you got that from...This could be true say some 100 or even 50 years ago. Not the case anymore.
Just the impression I was given. But could someone who lives in poverty really become a CEO in India? Probably not. E=mc2 -> BOOM
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Will programing always be an art or, will it become an extreme science like physics, and math? Abhishek
Programming is just solving a problem via computer code. Whilst it can be a creative task, it is no more art than paint by numbers is. More and more solutions will be created by tools and languages that take us further from the machine. Programming will diverge into those who write the tools and those who write the higher level solutions. Personally, I'm in it for the higher end problem solving, the coding doesn't really interest me so much. The higher the abstraction and the more the tools will do, is all better for me. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
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Most of all art sucks. The only thing that ends up on display is the tolerable stuff. The rest is crap. Arguably the displayed stuff is too. E=mc2 -> BOOM
Albert Einstein. wrote:
Most of all art sucks. The only thing that ends up on display is the tolerable stuff. The rest is crap. Arguably the displayed stuff is too.
And who is the leadig authority on that?;P Abhishek
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Programming is just solving a problem via computer code. Whilst it can be a creative task, it is no more art than paint by numbers is. More and more solutions will be created by tools and languages that take us further from the machine. Programming will diverge into those who write the tools and those who write the higher level solutions. Personally, I'm in it for the higher end problem solving, the coding doesn't really interest me so much. The higher the abstraction and the more the tools will do, is all better for me. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
Michael P Butler wrote:
More and more solutions will be created by tools and languages that take us further from the machine. Programming will diverge into those who write the tools and those who write the higher level solutions.
Yeah. Maybe, programing as we now it today wont exist infuture. Maybe we'll use just the mouse to write a program. Abhishek
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Sheesh. Who peed in your breakfast cereal this morning, Marc? :rolleyes:
Software Zen:
delete this;And because he eats that hearty New England oatmeal, it doesn't absorb liquid well, so the pee just tend to float on the top of it all. Double Whammy Bummer for Marc! ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! -- modified at 9:53 Saturday 24th June, 2006
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Super Lloyd wrote:
I think you are neither an artist or a scientist or a programmer to write such balderdash!
You are right. I am only figuring out which will be worth my time. :-D Abhishek
Maybe i was a bit harsh, bad mood, sorry :sigh: But good reaction on your part! :laugh:
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Just the impression I was given. But could someone who lives in poverty really become a CEO in India? Probably not. E=mc2 -> BOOM
Albert Einstein. wrote:
Just the impression I was given. But could someone who lives in poverty really become a CEO in India? Probably not.
Dont know if you have heard of Narayan Murty and Infosys. Thats the example you are searching for. Abhishek
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Just the impression I was given. But could someone who lives in poverty really become a CEO in India? Probably not. E=mc2 -> BOOM
Very difficult. There could be a few examples of people who rose up from abject poverty to be industry leaders but too few and far between. But I guess there is an iota of difficulty in that happening even in the west. As far as your originial post goes, you are right, there are social imbalances due to the caste system especially in rural areas. But can you deny a person a job, education or healthcare based on his religion/nationality/caste in India ? - Absolutely not.
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Maybe i was a bit harsh, bad mood, sorry :sigh: But good reaction on your part! :laugh:
Super Lloyd wrote:
Maybe i was a bit harsh, bad mood........
I bet it is about porting code to the new Framework.:laugh: Abhishek
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Albert Einstein. wrote:
Just the impression I was given. But could someone who lives in poverty really become a CEO in India? Probably not.
Dont know if you have heard of Narayan Murty and Infosys. Thats the example you are searching for. Abhishek
Thanks. Not being Indian myself I'm speaking from some ignorance. E=mc2 -> BOOM
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Sheesh. Who peed in your breakfast cereal this morning, Marc? :rolleyes:
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
Who peed in your breakfast cereal this morning, Marc?
haha. So, do you agree with me or not? Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
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And because he eats that hearty New England oatmeal, it doesn't absorb liquid well, so the pee just tend to float on the top of it all. Double Whammy Bummer for Marc! ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! -- modified at 9:53 Saturday 24th June, 2006
Jim Crafton wrote:
And because he eats that hearty New England oatmeal,
Yup! Just finished a bowl, with scrambled eggs on the side. Yummm! Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
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Thanks. Not being Indian myself I'm speaking from some ignorance. E=mc2 -> BOOM
Albert Einstein. wrote:
Thanks. Not being Indian myself I'm speaking from some ignorance.
But I thought Albert Eins:laugh:tein was very fond of and knowledgable about India. Abhishek
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Programming is just solving a problem via computer code. Whilst it can be a creative task, it is no more art than paint by numbers is. More and more solutions will be created by tools and languages that take us further from the machine. Programming will diverge into those who write the tools and those who write the higher level solutions. Personally, I'm in it for the higher end problem solving, the coding doesn't really interest me so much. The higher the abstraction and the more the tools will do, is all better for me. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
Michael P Butler wrote:
the coding doesn't really interest me so much. The higher the abstraction and the more the tools will do, is all better for me.
I see coding as proof of concept sort of thing. In engineering, having an idea and implementing it are equally important. Best, Jun
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Very difficult. There could be a few examples of people who rose up from abject poverty to be industry leaders but too few and far between. But I guess there is an iota of difficulty in that happening even in the west. As far as your originial post goes, you are right, there are social imbalances due to the caste system especially in rural areas. But can you deny a person a job, education or healthcare based on his religion/nationality/caste in India ? - Absolutely not.
retZ wrote:
As far as your originial post goes, you are right, there are social imbalances due to the caste system especially in rural areas. But can you deny a person a job, education or healthcare based on his religion/nationality/caste in India ? - Absolutely not.
I wonder how you know how you know so much about the place. Aren’t you an American yourself? And by the way, most of what you say is correct. Only want to add that most of it is political. It doesn’t interfere in business. Abhishek
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Albert Einstein. wrote:
Thanks. Not being Indian myself I'm speaking from some ignorance.
But I thought Albert Eins:laugh:tein was very fond of and knowledgable about India. Abhishek
Actually I don't know. E=mc2 -> BOOM
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retZ wrote:
As far as your originial post goes, you are right, there are social imbalances due to the caste system especially in rural areas. But can you deny a person a job, education or healthcare based on his religion/nationality/caste in India ? - Absolutely not.
I wonder how you know how you know so much about the place. Aren’t you an American yourself? And by the way, most of what you say is correct. Only want to add that most of it is political. It doesn’t interfere in business. Abhishek
Although I am speaking from some ignorance I am becoming more familure with India. 1) I have a developer working for me who is on H1-b from India (She is very good by the way). and 2) There is a project underway which I am involved with that includes India. E=mc2 -> BOOM
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Actually I don't know. E=mc2 -> BOOM
Albert Einstein. wrote:
Actually I don't know.
Dont tell me you are NOT the Einstine who propounded the theory of relativity. Abhishek -- modified at 10:12 Saturday 24th June, 2006
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Although I am speaking from some ignorance I am becoming more familure with India. 1) I have a developer working for me who is on H1-b from India (She is very good by the way). and 2) There is a project underway which I am involved with that includes India. E=mc2 -> BOOM
Albert Einstein. wrote:
There is a project underway which I am involved with that includes India.
I wish you all the best with that. Abhishek
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The future of programming IMO is this : Languages like C# and VB make it increasingly easy for people to write something that doesn't melt their system, and increasingly makes it possible to create simple programs that do something 'run of the mill' without writing much code, if any. At the same time, the number of developers in places like India, Pakistan and Russia ( i.e. places where the cost of living is low ) is making it possible for people to get programs written at unheard of prices. The price of Indian developers will rise. The price people are willing to pay developers in the West will drop. Developing software will in some circles be regarded as no more of a technical skill than using Word ( having said that, I do not know how to use most of Word ). There will always be a place in all of this for people with genuine skills in development, design and architecture to make a good living. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
I've always felt that Microsoft Windows will fall because the OS is a means to an end. When the language becomes easy enough that you can build anything, the person that will retain his or her job is the one that can come up with software ideas that the people will need. Writers don't care which editor they use as long as they can write on it. Hospitals don't care which database application they use as long as it has the functionality they need. The people that will survive in the programmer's pool will be those that can market new ideas to the companies since eventually the program will write itself. My two cents.
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