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  • D Dustin Metzgar

    What is it that makes it enjoyable? Do you have a good manager or a poor one but good co-workers? Is the work exciting or is there some other perk to the job that helps you forget how boring the work is? There are a lot of great programmers on this site, I'm curious if you were able to find jobs you enjoyed. If so, how long did it take you to find it?


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    Dustin Metzgar
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    Mine is the lack of interesting and challenging work, the equipment, the IT security restrictions, and the lack of flexible hours. I could go on, but you get the idea...


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    • D Dustin Metzgar

      I did work at home for a while and enjoyed it immensely. I missed the connection to people though. Maybe if I could do half and half? :-D


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      Paul Conrad
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      Dustin Metzgar wrote:

      Maybe if I could do half and half?

      That would rock!

      Dustin Metzgar wrote:

      I missed the connection to people though

      CodeProject Lounge seems pretty alright to me :)

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      • D Dustin Metzgar

        Sounds nice. A tools company like Infragistics would definitely be interesting. Most of my work has been in businesses that specialize in something besides IT. But a tools company you specialize in a particular IT area. Maybe I should give that a shot. Consulting's fun too. You don't stay anywhere for too long, but it can be stressful and demanding as well.


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        Josh Smith
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        Dustin Metzgar wrote:

        A tools company like Infragistics would definitely be interesting.

        I highly recommend it.

        Dustin Metzgar wrote:

        Consulting's fun too. You don't stay anywhere for too long, but it can be stressful and demanding as well.

        Yeah, but it pays really well. ;) I'm currently in a very low-stress environment, but I'm sure it can get hairy. Did I mention that it pays well? :-D

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        • M Marc Clifton

          Richard A. Abbott wrote:

          And now UK School holidays have started.

          I really enjoy summer vacation. I shift my work schedule so that I can spend the mornings with my son, biking, etc., and make up the time in the evenings after dinner, when my girlfriend is usually prepping for the next day at her daycare. But then again, my son is 15, and he can entertain himself. Actually, he's been able to do that since he was little, mainly because I "forced" him to learn how to occupy himself at an early age, like 4, and without TV or video games. Marc

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          On school holidays, my work usually gets shifted to "the midnight hours" thus no disturbances until the following morning. Assuming I am not woken too early through arguments and shouting matches.

          Marc Clifton wrote:

          without TV or video games

          Now that is most unusual in this day and age, and is some achievement. How often were the tantrums?

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          • D Dustin Metzgar

            What is it that makes it enjoyable? Do you have a good manager or a poor one but good co-workers? Is the work exciting or is there some other perk to the job that helps you forget how boring the work is? There are a lot of great programmers on this site, I'm curious if you were able to find jobs you enjoyed. If so, how long did it take you to find it?


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            Chris Austin
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            I enjoy where I work most of the time. I have, for the most part, a great boss. My co-workers are mostly great. But, the work is terrrrrrrribly boring at times and I truly dislike coding in JavaScript these days. But, the perks are good and the work hours are mostly to my choosing. So, even though the pay is a bit below market, I can't complain and I am treated well. That being said, I am leaving in two weeks to take FMLA to spend time with my baby boy and in all honesty, I probably won’t be coming back. I plan on focusing on my side contracts and turning them into 20 - 30 hours a week business. With the rest of my time I will be focusing on the boy and my real estate investments that I've been doing for several years now.

            Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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            • P Paul Conrad

              Dustin Metzgar wrote:

              Maybe if I could do half and half?

              That would rock!

              Dustin Metzgar wrote:

              I missed the connection to people though

              CodeProject Lounge seems pretty alright to me :)

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              PaulC1972 wrote:

              CodeProject Lounge seems pretty alright to me :)

              Well, that's a given. :)


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                I enjoy where I work most of the time. I have, for the most part, a great boss. My co-workers are mostly great. But, the work is terrrrrrrribly boring at times and I truly dislike coding in JavaScript these days. But, the perks are good and the work hours are mostly to my choosing. So, even though the pay is a bit below market, I can't complain and I am treated well. That being said, I am leaving in two weeks to take FMLA to spend time with my baby boy and in all honesty, I probably won’t be coming back. I plan on focusing on my side contracts and turning them into 20 - 30 hours a week business. With the rest of my time I will be focusing on the boy and my real estate investments that I've been doing for several years now.

                Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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                Paul Conrad
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                Chris Austin wrote:

                pend time with my baby boy

                Congrats :-D

                Chris Austin wrote:

                I plan on focusing on my side contracts and turning them into 20 - 30 hours a week business

                Best of luck to you :)

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                • D Dustin Metzgar

                  PaulC1972 wrote:

                  CodeProject Lounge seems pretty alright to me :)

                  Well, that's a given. :)


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                  Paul Conrad
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                  Dustin Metzgar wrote:

                  CodeProject Lounge seems pretty alright to me :) Well, that's a given. :)

                  Yep. Thanks a million to Chris for starting this site :-D

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                    Chris Austin wrote:

                    pend time with my baby boy

                    Congrats :-D

                    Chris Austin wrote:

                    I plan on focusing on my side contracts and turning them into 20 - 30 hours a week business

                    Best of luck to you :)

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                    Chris Austin
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                    Thanks I've been trying to build the pipeline for about a year and half now. It looks like it's almost ready :)

                    Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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                    • C Chris Austin

                      Thanks I've been trying to build the pipeline for about a year and half now. It looks like it's almost ready :)

                      Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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                      Paul Conrad
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                      Chris Austin wrote:

                      I've been trying to build the pipeline for about a year and half now.

                      That is really sweet. Trying to do that myself right now :)

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                      • C Chris Austin

                        I enjoy where I work most of the time. I have, for the most part, a great boss. My co-workers are mostly great. But, the work is terrrrrrrribly boring at times and I truly dislike coding in JavaScript these days. But, the perks are good and the work hours are mostly to my choosing. So, even though the pay is a bit below market, I can't complain and I am treated well. That being said, I am leaving in two weeks to take FMLA to spend time with my baby boy and in all honesty, I probably won’t be coming back. I plan on focusing on my side contracts and turning them into 20 - 30 hours a week business. With the rest of my time I will be focusing on the boy and my real estate investments that I've been doing for several years now.

                        Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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                        Dustin Metzgar
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                        Sounds a lot like my job. Good people but really boring work. Good luck with your side contracts. I get the feeling that most people that work for themselves enjoy it. (Well, at least enjoy it more than working for "the man").


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                        • D Dustin Metzgar

                          Sounds nice. A tools company like Infragistics would definitely be interesting. Most of my work has been in businesses that specialize in something besides IT. But a tools company you specialize in a particular IT area. Maybe I should give that a shot. Consulting's fun too. You don't stay anywhere for too long, but it can be stressful and demanding as well.


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                          I've thought this over more. Forget about IT. IT is for the birds. Companies like Infragistics are software shops, not IT shops. IT is the mire that people sink into because it's ubiquitous and pays well - reports, LDAP, authenticating users, invoices, blah, blah, blow my freakin' head off plz. If you want to get into a shop with really great devs where you work with great code, don't go to a shop that calls itself an "IT shop." Go to a place where they make software. Software. Not IT. Perhaps I'm just hung up on the acronym. :)

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                          • D Dustin Metzgar

                            Mine is the lack of interesting and challenging work, the equipment, the IT security restrictions, and the lack of flexible hours. I could go on, but you get the idea...


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                            I don't like the office pettiness. We sit by accounting and they run to the GM with any grievance. Like, they saw me reading the news one day. The most recent complaint is that my neighbor spends too much time in the lunch room making tea. Why has time to record this stuff? We have to meet with HR now next week to get this resolved. My boss is a really great guy, but his programming drives me crazy. I had a post about programming standards because he had one file 10k lines long, one function being about 5k. Stuff isn't commented. He doesn't keep track of changes. The other annoying thing is people who don't understand that programming takes time. It's not like I have magic jellybeans and can fix your issue instantly. Life is great, except for the people.:-D

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                              I've thought this over more. Forget about IT. IT is for the birds. Companies like Infragistics are software shops, not IT shops. IT is the mire that people sink into because it's ubiquitous and pays well - reports, LDAP, authenticating users, invoices, blah, blah, blow my freakin' head off plz. If you want to get into a shop with really great devs where you work with great code, don't go to a shop that calls itself an "IT shop." Go to a place where they make software. Software. Not IT. Perhaps I'm just hung up on the acronym. :)

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                              Dustin Metzgar
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                              I see what you mean. IT is a broad term. Software is definitely better.


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                              • D Dustin Metzgar

                                Sounds a lot like my job. Good people but really boring work. Good luck with your side contracts. I get the feeling that most people that work for themselves enjoy it. (Well, at least enjoy it more than working for "the man").


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                                Dustin Metzgar wrote:

                                Good luck with your side contracts.

                                Thanks, I am trying not to get into a panic because it is a bit of a scarry step. I don't expect to get automaticly successful but it wouldn't hurt :)

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                                  I don't like the office pettiness. We sit by accounting and they run to the GM with any grievance. Like, they saw me reading the news one day. The most recent complaint is that my neighbor spends too much time in the lunch room making tea. Why has time to record this stuff? We have to meet with HR now next week to get this resolved. My boss is a really great guy, but his programming drives me crazy. I had a post about programming standards because he had one file 10k lines long, one function being about 5k. Stuff isn't commented. He doesn't keep track of changes. The other annoying thing is people who don't understand that programming takes time. It's not like I have magic jellybeans and can fix your issue instantly. Life is great, except for the people.:-D

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                                  Dustin Metzgar
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                                  leckey wrote:

                                  Why has time to record this stuff?

                                  I wondered the same thing at one place I worked until I found out how little people do in a day... :)


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                                  • C Chris Austin

                                    Dustin Metzgar wrote:

                                    Good luck with your side contracts.

                                    Thanks, I am trying not to get into a panic because it is a bit of a scarry step. I don't expect to get automaticly successful but it wouldn't hurt :)

                                    Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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                                    Paul Conrad
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                                    Chris Austin wrote:

                                    I don't expect to get automaticly successful but it wouldn't hurt

                                    Success is nice and it is also a relative term. Success depends on who you talk to. I have a roof over my family's head and a full fridge, so I must be successful to some degree :)

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                                      On school holidays, my work usually gets shifted to "the midnight hours" thus no disturbances until the following morning. Assuming I am not woken too early through arguments and shouting matches.

                                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                                      without TV or video games

                                      Now that is most unusual in this day and age, and is some achievement. How often were the tantrums?

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                                      Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                      Now that is most unusual in this day and age, and is some achievement.

                                      It's strongly encouraged if you have your kid go through Waldorf kindergarten up to and including 8th grade.

                                      Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                      How often were the tantrums?

                                      What tantrums? Ian would have tantrums as an infant during changing and feeding, but quickly learned that tantrums got him nowhere except banishment in his room until the tantrum passed. Coddling children during a tantrum was not in my book. Of course, there's the difference between a tantrum and a truly understandable "ouch, I really hurt myself" cry. And certainly, it didn't stop his infant tantrums, I mean after all, infants are not the pinnacle of self control, but the lesson was learned so that I never, ever, have experienced tantrums with Ian after about the age of 3. Frankly, I'm the one who still has tantrums. :sigh: Marc

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                                      People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow

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                                        Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                        And now UK School holidays have started.

                                        I really enjoy summer vacation. I shift my work schedule so that I can spend the mornings with my son, biking, etc., and make up the time in the evenings after dinner, when my girlfriend is usually prepping for the next day at her daycare. But then again, my son is 15, and he can entertain himself. Actually, he's been able to do that since he was little, mainly because I "forced" him to learn how to occupy himself at an early age, like 4, and without TV or video games. Marc

                                        XPressTier

                                        Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

                                        People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow

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                                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                                        But then again, my son is 15, and he can entertain himself. Actually, he's been able to do that since he was little, mainly because I "forced" him to learn how to occupy himself at an early age, like 4, and without TV or video games.

                                        That's how I grew up, my Mom being a doctor and single there was no one to watch me so i was usually home alone till about 8 yo, that's when my grandparents decided i should live with them Roswell

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                                        • P Paul Conrad

                                          Dustin Metzgar wrote:

                                          CodeProject Lounge seems pretty alright to me :) Well, that's a given. :)

                                          Yep. Thanks a million to Chris for starting this site :-D

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                                          PaulC1972 wrote:

                                          Yep. Thanks a million to Chris for starting this site

                                          Amen. Roswell

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