career decisions
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My friend is insisting on me to go for DBA (oracle side) He is telling me there is no headache in DBA's job and demand is more and salary is high (in indian IT market) , No headaches like in programmer's job , no constant update and studying. I am having 5 years of development (non oracle) experience. I liked ORacle but never got much involved. I like programming and like others use my application. Basic orientation is towards Microsoft technologies. Getting reasonable pay. But now this guy is showing me other side. what do u think.. what you will do if you get such advice putting in my shoes? thanks,
pathak
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My friend is insisting on me to go for DBA (oracle side) He is telling me there is no headache in DBA's job and demand is more and salary is high (in indian IT market) , No headaches like in programmer's job , no constant update and studying. I am having 5 years of development (non oracle) experience. I liked ORacle but never got much involved. I like programming and like others use my application. Basic orientation is towards Microsoft technologies. Getting reasonable pay. But now this guy is showing me other side. what do u think.. what you will do if you get such advice putting in my shoes? thanks,
pathak
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pathakr wrote:
there is no headache in DBA's job
Are you kidding.. its hard being a good DBA... my advice will be stick with what you know and love to do
Help your local Search & Rescue. Get lost!
I was thinking the same. :~
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I was thinking the same. :~
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My friend is insisting on me to go for DBA (oracle side) He is telling me there is no headache in DBA's job and demand is more and salary is high (in indian IT market) , No headaches like in programmer's job , no constant update and studying. I am having 5 years of development (non oracle) experience. I liked ORacle but never got much involved. I like programming and like others use my application. Basic orientation is towards Microsoft technologies. Getting reasonable pay. But now this guy is showing me other side. what do u think.. what you will do if you get such advice putting in my shoes? thanks,
pathak
Just think of those lovely Friday afternoons when the Head of the accounting department has managed to accidentally delete all of his records and needs them all restored and verified in the next 15 minutes...
pathakr wrote:
No headaches like in programmer's job , no constant update and studying.
Hmm... I quite like the constant updates and studying, makes for an interesting life...
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My friend is insisting on me to go for DBA (oracle side) He is telling me there is no headache in DBA's job and demand is more and salary is high (in indian IT market) , No headaches like in programmer's job , no constant update and studying. I am having 5 years of development (non oracle) experience. I liked ORacle but never got much involved. I like programming and like others use my application. Basic orientation is towards Microsoft technologies. Getting reasonable pay. But now this guy is showing me other side. what do u think.. what you will do if you get such advice putting in my shoes? thanks,
pathak
I would not limit yourself to a dba role unless you like sort of thing. To me it is more stressful and less fun. Also, .net programmers are more in demand then Oracle DBAs right now but that is over in the states. I have know idea what it is like in India.
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My friend is insisting on me to go for DBA (oracle side) He is telling me there is no headache in DBA's job and demand is more and salary is high (in indian IT market) , No headaches like in programmer's job , no constant update and studying. I am having 5 years of development (non oracle) experience. I liked ORacle but never got much involved. I like programming and like others use my application. Basic orientation is towards Microsoft technologies. Getting reasonable pay. But now this guy is showing me other side. what do u think.. what you will do if you get such advice putting in my shoes? thanks,
pathak
pathakr wrote:
No headaches like in programmer's job , no constant update and studying.
It's not a headache. You're constantly renewing your knowledge. To learn is a goog thing. No uptadate and studying = stacked in the past :~ My advice is that first you should know if it could like you. To work is something that you don't like and enjoy doing it can be very depressive: you spend many hours in you job every day !!! Marc.
... she said you are the perfect stranger she said baby let's keep it like this... Dire Straits
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My friend is insisting on me to go for DBA (oracle side) He is telling me there is no headache in DBA's job and demand is more and salary is high (in indian IT market) , No headaches like in programmer's job , no constant update and studying. I am having 5 years of development (non oracle) experience. I liked ORacle but never got much involved. I like programming and like others use my application. Basic orientation is towards Microsoft technologies. Getting reasonable pay. But now this guy is showing me other side. what do u think.. what you will do if you get such advice putting in my shoes? thanks,
pathak
Personally I laugh at everyone I meet that is considering a high-tech job for the money (like programming or dba) because I know that without the knack they are just going to be standing in the door. Don't stand in my door, do something you are good at and something you enjoy. Life is short and you can't take the money with you. Although, according to Einstien, driving a ferarri will increase your life. (By nearky 0.00001 Seconds)
A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane
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My friend is insisting on me to go for DBA (oracle side) He is telling me there is no headache in DBA's job and demand is more and salary is high (in indian IT market) , No headaches like in programmer's job , no constant update and studying. I am having 5 years of development (non oracle) experience. I liked ORacle but never got much involved. I like programming and like others use my application. Basic orientation is towards Microsoft technologies. Getting reasonable pay. But now this guy is showing me other side. what do u think.. what you will do if you get such advice putting in my shoes? thanks,
pathak
By all means, become a DBA. The pay is better. And there is no work to do. Particularly if you refuse to be a Production DBA. Join a company as a Development DBA. Make sure that the company uses only purchased software such as Oracle's ERP. You wouldn't have to write any database schemas. You would have it made. Believe me, I worked at a company where every application was purchased (Siebel's CRM, SAP, etc.) and we had three (yes, THREE) development DBAs sitting on their arse.
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Just think of those lovely Friday afternoons when the Head of the accounting department has managed to accidentally delete all of his records and needs them all restored and verified in the next 15 minutes...
pathakr wrote:
No headaches like in programmer's job , no constant update and studying.
Hmm... I quite like the constant updates and studying, makes for an interesting life...
Paddy Boyd wrote:
Just think of those lovely Friday afternoons when the Head of the accounting department has managed to accidentally delete all of his records and needs them all restored and verified in the next 15 minutes...
That would be the responsibility of the Production DBA or the Operations department.
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My friend is insisting on me to go for DBA (oracle side) He is telling me there is no headache in DBA's job and demand is more and salary is high (in indian IT market) , No headaches like in programmer's job , no constant update and studying. I am having 5 years of development (non oracle) experience. I liked ORacle but never got much involved. I like programming and like others use my application. Basic orientation is towards Microsoft technologies. Getting reasonable pay. But now this guy is showing me other side. what do u think.. what you will do if you get such advice putting in my shoes? thanks,
pathak
pathakr wrote:
He is telling me there is no headache in DBA's job
He is wrong. Totally.
Cheers, Vikram.
"whoever I am, I'm not other people" - Corinna John.
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My friend is insisting on me to go for DBA (oracle side) He is telling me there is no headache in DBA's job and demand is more and salary is high (in indian IT market) , No headaches like in programmer's job , no constant update and studying. I am having 5 years of development (non oracle) experience. I liked ORacle but never got much involved. I like programming and like others use my application. Basic orientation is towards Microsoft technologies. Getting reasonable pay. But now this guy is showing me other side. what do u think.. what you will do if you get such advice putting in my shoes? thanks,
pathak
Thanks Gurus, I liked your advices. Better to do things which you like more. Anyhow I am getting reasonable pay package and I like what I am doing. better to grow in what I am best in. Yes its best to keep on updating and giving brain its food or else face alzeimer's desease. ;P
pathak
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Paddy Boyd wrote:
Just think of those lovely Friday afternoons when the Head of the accounting department has managed to accidentally delete all of his records and needs them all restored and verified in the next 15 minutes...
That would be the responsibility of the Production DBA or the Operations department.
Beg pardon. :~
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Beg pardon. :~
In large IT shops, responsibilities are separated among different groups. The Applications Group deploys the application, trains the user and hands over day-to-day responsibility to the Operations Group. As Manager of Computer Operations, it fell to my staff to restore databases, do backups, etc. The Applications Group (including their Development DBAs) walked out the door every day promptly at 5 pm. I had to ensure that all three shifts were manned to respond to emergencies. I was working for a worldwide organization with major facilities in California, London and Japan. That geographical spread ensured that evry single hour of the day was somebody's prime shift (California being 8 hours behind London and 16 hours behind Japan). The separation of responsibility between Applications Development and Computer Operations is required for ensuring data security. You really do not want a pissed-off programmer wreaking havoc on your data on his last day at work, do you? The company's external auditors would not sign off on the books if we could not demonstrate clear separation of roles and responsibilities. Those are the realities of life in the big city. On the other hand, for a mom-and-pop video store, I guess the owner would call the programmer to restore his databases!