My two-cents worth (or 5 cents for those without 1 cent pieces anymore)
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Judah Himango wrote:
if you guys really don't stand for the genocidal notions of removal of the Jewish race
You should know that I am just an anglo saxon, beer drinking, irreligious, cunt. Yes, I condemn all terorist groups, all religious crazies who kill in the name of their god. All hypocrites, all the ignorant scared fools who drag the world in to pain and darkness. What really grips my shit is the hypocrisy of the US. Just because a bunch of fundamental christians think that untill all the Jews are in Israel the messianic ewra wont begin, the US backs Israel to the hilt in whatever it does. So we have three groups of fundamental crazies in the problem. Not a problem unless one of them is a world super power...
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
Christian support of Israel is not simply because it will make Jesus come back; I can't speak for every believer in Jesus, but I know it certainly isn't the case for myself or the folks I converse with. I may not fit into your stereotype since I myself am a Jew, but I have visited many churches and have talked with a wide variety of Christians, and I can say by experience that Christians generally love Jews for several reasons that are a lot deeper than the simpleton's explanation that "Jesus will come back". :) I see plainly how outsiders try to deride such love and support of the Jewish people. Why do Christians support Israel? So Jesus will come back. Why do Christians support Israel financially and visit Israel? So Jesus will come back. Why do Christians send aide to the families of injured or deceased Israeli soldiers? So Jesus will come back. Why do Christians go to the ballgame on Sunday? So Jesus will come back. ;) It's nearly laughable, but at the same time kind of sad that some people have such a deep ignorance and misunderstanding of the situation. Let me elaborate on the real reasons: the Jewish people are spiritual brothers of Christians; Paul talks about this in the New Testament, how followers of Jesus should be blessing the Jews rather than cursing them. The New Testament goes as far as to say that Christians are grafted into the tree of Israel (spiritually speaking) by embracing the Messiah of Israel, Jesus. Christians share so much in common with the Jews: a common belief in the one-and-only God, the entire Jewish Scripture, the basis for our morality, to name a few. Christians aim to love the Jewish people for these reasons. Even the Christian Scriptures tell us to love the Jews, pray for the peace of Jerusalem, bless Israel, and so on. I'd be glad to give you references for all that if you're interested. In addition, it was Jesus who said the greatest of all the commandments in Scripture is to love God and to love others. Christians, I'm sure you'll be quick to point out, have missed big time on the latter, especially in our relationship to the Jewish people in the past, but we've learned our lesson there and are changing. On the political front, Israel as a nation is a beacon of democracy in a sea Islamic theocracies. They share much of our value system, which makes sense as the current value system is one based in Judeo-Christian values; it's no wonder the United States supports Israel politically. The folks disliking this political support typically have either of the followin