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  • M Megan Forbes

    That's interesting, here (Brisbane, yes) almost every petrol station I've been to has the option along with Unleaded and Premium Unleaded. I was told it is cleaner and sold because it's better for the environment.


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    Christian Graus
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    The reason it's better in theory is that it makes the oil go further, but as has been said, most ethanol sources use so many (petro chemical ) fertilizers that they are hardly a 'green' solution. The real reason stations have been using it is that it's cheaper. One thing you may not have learned yet is that Tassie is 6-60 months behind, depending on the issue.

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    • R Roger Wright

      Firstly, I prefer my ethanol in a glass, not the tank, so I can't help you there. But Rescue DisksTM are generally found in the vicinity of Norton products, which cause the sorts of problems that require them. Try checking at bootdisk.com[^] for images of startup disks for most flavors of Windows. Apparently Apples never need them...:rolleyes:

      "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9

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      Roger Wright wrote:

      Apparently Apples never need them...

      Oh, Apple's do need boot disks occasionally, but if they do, they're so screwed you're better off giving up and reinstalling. And I got that from a friend of mine who looks after them for a living, so I'm not just making it up...

      Ryan

      "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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      • R Ryan Binns

        Megan Forbes wrote:

        Firstly, Unleaded fuel with ethanol added - does anyone here use this? I'm not used to having the option so am naturally suspicious. Still, it seems like an environmentally friendly option, so am thinking of giving it a go. Would love to hear what anyone using it thinks.

        Did you bring your car with you to Australia? If not, I wouldn't recommend using ethanol. Ethanol causes excessive engine wear unless the engine is made to cope with it. Most cars made for Australia do not have an engine that can cope with ethanol since ethanol is not very popular here. I've never seen a fuel station that sells it...

        Ryan

        "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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        Megan Forbes
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        That's so interesting Ryan, the Queensland government is apparently trying to spread the exact opposite message. I got a pamphlet thingy from a garage this morning all about how it's best for Queensland as it's not only better for the environment but is made from grains grown here, etc, etc. It also says that almost all post 1986 cars are ready for it. I wonder if that's all marketing hype? Surely there would be complaints if people's cars were breaking down because of it :~


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        • M Megan Forbes

          That's so interesting Ryan, the Queensland government is apparently trying to spread the exact opposite message. I got a pamphlet thingy from a garage this morning all about how it's best for Queensland as it's not only better for the environment but is made from grains grown here, etc, etc. It also says that almost all post 1986 cars are ready for it. I wonder if that's all marketing hype? Surely there would be complaints if people's cars were breaking down because of it :~


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          Megan Forbes wrote:

          It also says that almost all post 1986 cars are ready for it. I wonder if that's all marketing hype?

          Check here[^] to see if your car is suitable. There's quite a few that aren't. The reason they say that post-1986 cars are suitable, because a fuel-ethanol mix has a higher vapour pressure that standard fuel which means the mix can't be used on a car that doesn't have fuel-injection - most cars after 1986 do, so they are the ones that are suitable. All the trials were sponsored by BP. The initial trial was ended because people weren't interested. The current trial is the next push by BP (they're the only ones selling petrol with ethanol, AFAIK). Ethanol increases the octane of the petrol, meaning it burns cleaner, but also hotter. The extra heat is what puts more stress on the engine, similar to a car run on LPG when it's not designed for it. Most cars should be ok, but I'm always wary of running a car on a fuel it wasn't designed for.

          Ryan

          "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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          • M Megan Forbes

            Thanks Roger, I'll take a look :) Completely OT - how are you doing?


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            Megan Forbes wrote:

            how are you doing?

            Quite well, thanks!:-D Keeping busy, of course, and generally having a challenging and interesting time at work. Et tu?

            "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9

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            • M Megan Forbes

              Two seperate questions, just don't want to fill the lounge up too much :) Firstly, Unleaded fuel with ethanol added - does anyone here use this? I'm not used to having the option so am naturally suspicious. Still, it seems like an environmentally friendly option, so am thinking of giving it a go. Would love to hear what anyone using it thinks. Secondly, rescue disks. A friend has a pc (I haven't been round to see it yet, all they can tell me is it runs a version of Windows) which is asking for it's rescue disks when they turn it on. Apparently they did make the discs but they are now lost. Is there a way around this? Thanks :)


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              For as long as I can remember we've had ethanol blended gasoline in Canada, at some gas stations it's not an option afaik it's just there. I've never noticed any difference and it's no cheaper.

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              • K Kent Sharkey

                I agree that ethanol is better in the glass, but it's not too bad in the tank either. It's a cheap octane increaser, and burns cleaner. Sadly (in the US anyway) it's mostly made from corn, so takes so much fertilizer and pesticides that it's not really as green as it should be.

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                What's wrong with fertilizer? I can't think of a gardening additive that's any older other than sun and water.

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                • M Megan Forbes

                  Two seperate questions, just don't want to fill the lounge up too much :) Firstly, Unleaded fuel with ethanol added - does anyone here use this? I'm not used to having the option so am naturally suspicious. Still, it seems like an environmentally friendly option, so am thinking of giving it a go. Would love to hear what anyone using it thinks. Secondly, rescue disks. A friend has a pc (I haven't been round to see it yet, all they can tell me is it runs a version of Windows) which is asking for it's rescue disks when they turn it on. Apparently they did make the discs but they are now lost. Is there a way around this? Thanks :)


                  A mum and loving it!

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                  Joe Woodbury
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                  Let me take this opportunity to push Butanol as a better alternative than Ethanol.

                  Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                  • M Megan Forbes

                    Two seperate questions, just don't want to fill the lounge up too much :) Firstly, Unleaded fuel with ethanol added - does anyone here use this? I'm not used to having the option so am naturally suspicious. Still, it seems like an environmentally friendly option, so am thinking of giving it a go. Would love to hear what anyone using it thinks. Secondly, rescue disks. A friend has a pc (I haven't been round to see it yet, all they can tell me is it runs a version of Windows) which is asking for it's rescue disks when they turn it on. Apparently they did make the discs but they are now lost. Is there a way around this? Thanks :)


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                    Joe Woodbury
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                    For many years, Ethanol/Gas was mandated in the winter where I live. Ethanol is very corrosive and on older cars the mix can cause gaskets to fail and carburators/fuel injection nozzles to clog. Making measurements with several cards, I found that it reduced my gas mileage by 1/2 to 1 mpg. As far as pollution goes, it doesn't really do much. It increases particulate emissions while reducing other types.

                    Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                    • M Member 96

                      What's wrong with fertilizer? I can't think of a gardening additive that's any older other than sun and water.

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                      Well, not regular fertilizer, but corn usually uses a lot of chemical fertilizers. Those are usually derived from petroleum, so you're back to square 0.

                      -------------- TTFN - Kent

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