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  • L leckey 0

    I talked about a previous problem of the accounting department being too nosy and making complaints on everything the programmers do. (One was accused of spending too much time making tea.) The company is small (400) and the owner/creator of the company recently sold it to a company in New York. The company assured my company that they were not going to make any changes. However, a couple key people have left (I don't know the circumstances) and there has been constant changes in management. (The HR person said she's on her about 50th revision of the org chart.) Today I found out that "The Bobs" have arrived. However, we just have one guy named Bill. The progammers are me, a new guy and our boss, plus two Auto-CAD programmers who have a different supervisor. A couple of people have asked my boss what the Auto-CAD programmers "do" exactly. I wonder how long it will be before the questions get asked of us. We have enough problems inside the company of people not understanding the nature of programming. I've decided I better start looking to see what else is out there, but how serious would you take this situation? Run for the hills, stick it out? Has anyone else been in this situation?

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      I talked about a previous problem of the accounting department being too nosy and making complaints on everything the programmers do. (One was accused of spending too much time making tea.) The company is small (400) and the owner/creator of the company recently sold it to a company in New York. The company assured my company that they were not going to make any changes. However, a couple key people have left (I don't know the circumstances) and there has been constant changes in management. (The HR person said she's on her about 50th revision of the org chart.) Today I found out that "The Bobs" have arrived. However, we just have one guy named Bill. The progammers are me, a new guy and our boss, plus two Auto-CAD programmers who have a different supervisor. A couple of people have asked my boss what the Auto-CAD programmers "do" exactly. I wonder how long it will be before the questions get asked of us. We have enough problems inside the company of people not understanding the nature of programming. I've decided I better start looking to see what else is out there, but how serious would you take this situation? Run for the hills, stick it out? Has anyone else been in this situation?

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      Varindir Rajesh Mahdihar
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      unfortunately: 1. everybody's replaceable period. 2. programmers are a dime a dozen. 3. don't think your indespensible. 4. don't think nobody else can do your job. so, think before you act. Stay as long as you can, irregardless, they'll give you a package to away, so you have time to get a new job.

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      • L leckey 0

        I talked about a previous problem of the accounting department being too nosy and making complaints on everything the programmers do. (One was accused of spending too much time making tea.) The company is small (400) and the owner/creator of the company recently sold it to a company in New York. The company assured my company that they were not going to make any changes. However, a couple key people have left (I don't know the circumstances) and there has been constant changes in management. (The HR person said she's on her about 50th revision of the org chart.) Today I found out that "The Bobs" have arrived. However, we just have one guy named Bill. The progammers are me, a new guy and our boss, plus two Auto-CAD programmers who have a different supervisor. A couple of people have asked my boss what the Auto-CAD programmers "do" exactly. I wonder how long it will be before the questions get asked of us. We have enough problems inside the company of people not understanding the nature of programming. I've decided I better start looking to see what else is out there, but how serious would you take this situation? Run for the hills, stick it out? Has anyone else been in this situation?

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        Run, Luke.

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        • L leckey 0

          I talked about a previous problem of the accounting department being too nosy and making complaints on everything the programmers do. (One was accused of spending too much time making tea.) The company is small (400) and the owner/creator of the company recently sold it to a company in New York. The company assured my company that they were not going to make any changes. However, a couple key people have left (I don't know the circumstances) and there has been constant changes in management. (The HR person said she's on her about 50th revision of the org chart.) Today I found out that "The Bobs" have arrived. However, we just have one guy named Bill. The progammers are me, a new guy and our boss, plus two Auto-CAD programmers who have a different supervisor. A couple of people have asked my boss what the Auto-CAD programmers "do" exactly. I wonder how long it will be before the questions get asked of us. We have enough problems inside the company of people not understanding the nature of programming. I've decided I better start looking to see what else is out there, but how serious would you take this situation? Run for the hills, stick it out? Has anyone else been in this situation?

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          Christian Graus
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          I was in a situation of the company being taken over, but nothing like this happened. Have you seen 'Office Space' ? In all seriousness, it sounds like the sort of thing that I'd expect to blow over. They have three coders, how can they possibly hope to cut the numbers ? Some people may have left because it felt uncertain, but I wouldn't be planning my departure until the micromanagement actually started.

          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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            I was in a situation of the company being taken over, but nothing like this happened. Have you seen 'Office Space' ? In all seriousness, it sounds like the sort of thing that I'd expect to blow over. They have three coders, how can they possibly hope to cut the numbers ? Some people may have left because it felt uncertain, but I wouldn't be planning my departure until the micromanagement actually started.

            Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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            Jeremy Falcon
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            Christian Graus wrote:

            but I wouldn't be planning my departure until the micromanagement actually started.

            I'll second that. There's nothing worse than someone that knows even less about your job than you do telling you how to do it.

            Jeremy Falcon

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            • J Jeremy Falcon

              Christian Graus wrote:

              but I wouldn't be planning my departure until the micromanagement actually started.

              I'll second that. There's nothing worse than someone that knows even less about your job than you do telling you how to do it.

              Jeremy Falcon

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              Christian Graus
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              Jeremy Falcon wrote:

              even less about your job than you do

              :laugh::laugh:

              Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                even less about your job than you do

                :laugh::laugh:

                Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                Jeremy Falcon
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                Ah, you got the subtly! :laugh: Congrats, most people pass those right up.

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                • R Rob Graham

                  No company buys another without the intention of making some changes. They need to recover their investment as quickly as possible, and demonstrate that the new aquisition is making a positive contribution to the bottom line. Almost always this means "trimming waste" in the aquisition (i.e. layoffs). By the time they figure out who contributes what, they will have laid off or scared off most of the good people, and the company will be a shadow of its former self, likely just maintaining its products rather than making new products. Sounds like a good time to explore new prospects.

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                  Rob Graham wrote:

                  No company buys another without the intention of making some changes. They need to recover their investment as quickly as possible, and demonstrate that the new aquisition is making a positive contribution to the bottom line. Almost always this means "trimming waste" in the aquisition (i.e. layoffs). By the time they figure out who contributes what, they will have laid off or scared off most of the good people, and the company will be a shadow of its former self, likely just maintaining its products rather than making new products.

                  Not always. Our company was bought about 4 months ago, and the only things that have changed are really, really good things. The company that previously owned us was basically syphoning off all the profit, and left us with nothing to actually build the business up. The new guys have told us that that was rubbish, and they're going to make sure we have enough money to do something useful with. We've been hiring people, and the only people that have left since then (and there's been less than before then) have left of their own accord. It's been the complete opposite to the usual situation. It's cool :cool:

                  Ryan

                  "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                  • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                    Make your husband get a raise and then take time off to right the next great american novel. More seriously, update the resume, start the hunt, and take a good offer. There is no loyalty in modern IT anymore :(

                    A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane

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                    Gary R Wheeler
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                    Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                    There is no loyalty in modern IT anymore

                    Anyone employed since the 1970's who believes in loyalty expressed by a company to their employees is a fool.


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                      Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                      There is no loyalty in modern IT anymore

                      Anyone employed since the 1970's who believes in loyalty expressed by a company to their employees is a fool.


                      Software Zen: delete this;

                      Fold With Us![^]

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                      leckey 0
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                      What if you were born in the 1970's? :-D

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