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Vincent Reynolds wrote:
In order for Emerson's statement to apply to Bush, it would need to be symmetrical, and it's not.
In your attempt to insult Bush, you forgot to realize it was a joke.
Vincent Reynolds wrote:
To be misunderstood is not necessarily to be great.
Yes, but by the same token, it can be. Which means there exists the chance he is great and we just don't understand him. So, logically speaking, you cannot assume he's not.
Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
In your attempt to insult Bush, you forgot to realize it was a joke.
In your attempt to take my insult seriously, you forgot to realize it was a joke, as well as an insult.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Yes, but by the same token, it can be. Which means there exists the chance he is great and we just don't understand him. So, logically speaking, you cannot assume he's not.
True, taken alone, the misunderstanding might indicate greatness, just like the misunderestimating indicated...well, actually, that -- as well as the metric buttload of hilarity that has happened since -- seem to indicate just the opposite. Let's try some measures of greatness:
- Great statesman? Not even with an earpiece and a puppetmaster.
- Great leader? Not by the polls. Any polls.
- Great dignity? "Yo, Blair."
- Great backrubs? Germany says, "nein!"
- Great wit? "I thought you were gonna ask me about the pig. Heh, heh."
- Great guy? Seems like he might be a decent guy to have a beer with. If he still drank. Which he doesn't. Right.
- Great President? Your friends say yes. Mine? Eh...not so much. We'll see what history says.
BTW, it isn't a partisan thing. I disagreed rather strongly with Reagan's politics, but still think he at least had elements of greatness. Or maybe Bush has just lowered the bar...
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
In your attempt to insult Bush, you forgot to realize it was a joke.
In your attempt to take my insult seriously, you forgot to realize it was a joke, as well as an insult.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Yes, but by the same token, it can be. Which means there exists the chance he is great and we just don't understand him. So, logically speaking, you cannot assume he's not.
True, taken alone, the misunderstanding might indicate greatness, just like the misunderestimating indicated...well, actually, that -- as well as the metric buttload of hilarity that has happened since -- seem to indicate just the opposite. Let's try some measures of greatness:
- Great statesman? Not even with an earpiece and a puppetmaster.
- Great leader? Not by the polls. Any polls.
- Great dignity? "Yo, Blair."
- Great backrubs? Germany says, "nein!"
- Great wit? "I thought you were gonna ask me about the pig. Heh, heh."
- Great guy? Seems like he might be a decent guy to have a beer with. If he still drank. Which he doesn't. Right.
- Great President? Your friends say yes. Mine? Eh...not so much. We'll see what history says.
BTW, it isn't a partisan thing. I disagreed rather strongly with Reagan's politics, but still think he at least had elements of greatness. Or maybe Bush has just lowered the bar...
Vincent Reynolds wrote:
In your attempt to take my insult seriously, you forgot to realize it was a joke, as well as an insult.
In your attempt to insult my joke regarding your insulting joke regarding my joke, you forgot to take into consideration that your insulting joke regarding my joke wasn't terribly funny.
Vincent Reynolds wrote:
True, taken alone, the misunderstanding might indicate greatness, just like the misunderestimating indicated...
I didn't misunderstand the qoute at all. ;P
Vincent Reynolds wrote:
Great President? Your friends say yes. Mine? Eh...not so much. We'll see what history says.
It'll say whatever we want it to say, because we'll off the fuckers that write anything we don't like. :rolleyes:
Jeremy Falcon
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Vincent Reynolds wrote:
In your attempt to take my insult seriously, you forgot to realize it was a joke, as well as an insult.
In your attempt to insult my joke regarding your insulting joke regarding my joke, you forgot to take into consideration that your insulting joke regarding my joke wasn't terribly funny.
Vincent Reynolds wrote:
True, taken alone, the misunderstanding might indicate greatness, just like the misunderestimating indicated...
I didn't misunderstand the qoute at all. ;P
Vincent Reynolds wrote:
Great President? Your friends say yes. Mine? Eh...not so much. We'll see what history says.
It'll say whatever we want it to say, because we'll off the fuckers that write anything we don't like. :rolleyes:
Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
In your attempt to insult my joke regarding your insulting joke regarding my joke, you forgot to take into consideration that your insulting joke regarding my joke wasn't terribly funny.
I find your attempt to claim that my response to your response regarding my insulting joke regarding your Emerson quote wasn't funny amusing.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
I didn't misunderstand the qoute at all.
No, I think you misunderestimated it instead.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
In your attempt to insult my joke regarding your insulting joke regarding my joke, you forgot to take into consideration that your insulting joke regarding my joke wasn't terribly funny.
I find your attempt to claim that my response to your response regarding my insulting joke regarding your Emerson quote wasn't funny amusing.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
I didn't misunderstand the qoute at all.
No, I think you misunderestimated it instead.
Vincent Reynolds wrote:
I find your attempt to claim that my response to your response regarding my insulting joke regarding your Emerson quote wasn't funny amusing.
That is profound.
This post is provided "as is" without warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
In your attempt to insult my joke regarding your insulting joke regarding my joke, you forgot to take into consideration that your insulting joke regarding my joke wasn't terribly funny.
I find your attempt to claim that my response to your response regarding my insulting joke regarding your Emerson quote wasn't funny amusing.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
I didn't misunderstand the qoute at all.
No, I think you misunderestimated it instead.
Vincent Reynolds wrote:
I find your attempt to claim that my response to your response regarding my insulting joke regarding your Emerson quote wasn't funny amusing.
Yeah, it helps to have a sense of humor.
Vincent Reynolds wrote:
No, I think you misunderestimated it instead.
I'm happy to inform that you thought wrong. Please do pull the cork out and take a good whiff. ;) Also, you apparently forgot it was a joke. There's is no over/under estimation with jokes. For further reading, may I suggest this[^].
Jeremy Falcon
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http://www.rense.com/1.imagesG/bushtimemag.jpg[^] Not likely to happen, though:sigh: -- modified at 16:17 Thursday 3rd August, 2006
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
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http://www.rense.com/1.imagesG/bushtimemag.jpg[^] Not likely to happen, though:sigh: -- modified at 16:17 Thursday 3rd August, 2006
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
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What a waste of human suffering it would be if bush resigned now. There is still much more harm he is called to do before 2008.
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Vincent Reynolds wrote:
I find your attempt to claim that my response to your response regarding my insulting joke regarding your Emerson quote wasn't funny amusing.
Yeah, it helps to have a sense of humor.
Vincent Reynolds wrote:
No, I think you misunderestimated it instead.
I'm happy to inform that you thought wrong. Please do pull the cork out and take a good whiff. ;) Also, you apparently forgot it was a joke. There's is no over/under estimation with jokes. For further reading, may I suggest this[^].
Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Yeah, it helps to have a sense of humor.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
There's is no over/under estimation with jokes.
For further reading, may I suggest you google "bush" and "misunderestimate". You probably won't find the resulting pages funny; but, trust me, pretty much everyone else does.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
For further reading, may I suggest this[^].
Good call. That web site is hilarious. I laughed until I stopped.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Yeah, it helps to have a sense of humor.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
There's is no over/under estimation with jokes.
For further reading, may I suggest you google "bush" and "misunderestimate". You probably won't find the resulting pages funny; but, trust me, pretty much everyone else does.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
For further reading, may I suggest this[^].
Good call. That web site is hilarious. I laughed until I stopped.
Vincent Reynolds wrote:
For further reading, may I suggest you google "bush" and "misunderestimate". You probably won't find the resulting pages funny; but, trust me, pretty much everyone else does.
Crap I missed that one. :laugh:
Jeremy Falcon
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There is that, at least.
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison
dennisd45 wrote:
There is that, at least.
Well I guess hope springs eternal amongest those of little vision and depend on hope/dope to make it thru the day. Remember back before President Bush won his second term how he was vilefied by so many here in the box, how it was impossible that he would be elected AGAIN, how superior Kerry was in all manner to that poor ignorant daddys boy from some little hick town in Texas. Hell the man couldn't even speak English.The Supremes gave him the first election anyway. Only got into school cause Daddy went there. Dumb dumb dumb. Still enough dumb American red necks left the bar or the trailer park sober enough to make it to the polls to elect him anyway - in spite of the overwhelming evidence he was at least an idiot and at most a criminal who should be impeached, arrested, convicted, injected, inspected, and put away where he could bother no one. Well guess what - its gonna happen again. The Dems are probably gonna be dumb enough to run ole Hillary , push for a rollback of the tax cuts, go anti war, pro abortion, And assure us of a cure for SS, medicare, and all that ails us. All we have to do is "trust them" and give up 60-65% of all we earn to make this social utopia possible. Reminds me of a lead balloon. The Reps could run just about anybody they want and win unless the Dems get their act together - and at present I see little chance for that. Richard
Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. --Mark Twain
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In order for Emerson's statement to apply to Bush, it would need to be symmetrical, and it's not. To be misunderstood is not necessarily to be great.
Vincent Reynolds wrote:
To be misunderstood is not necessarily to be great.
Ahh . But to be misunderestimated is to be great. Richard
Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. --Mark Twain
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dennisd45 wrote:
There is that, at least.
Well I guess hope springs eternal amongest those of little vision and depend on hope/dope to make it thru the day. Remember back before President Bush won his second term how he was vilefied by so many here in the box, how it was impossible that he would be elected AGAIN, how superior Kerry was in all manner to that poor ignorant daddys boy from some little hick town in Texas. Hell the man couldn't even speak English.The Supremes gave him the first election anyway. Only got into school cause Daddy went there. Dumb dumb dumb. Still enough dumb American red necks left the bar or the trailer park sober enough to make it to the polls to elect him anyway - in spite of the overwhelming evidence he was at least an idiot and at most a criminal who should be impeached, arrested, convicted, injected, inspected, and put away where he could bother no one. Well guess what - its gonna happen again. The Dems are probably gonna be dumb enough to run ole Hillary , push for a rollback of the tax cuts, go anti war, pro abortion, And assure us of a cure for SS, medicare, and all that ails us. All we have to do is "trust them" and give up 60-65% of all we earn to make this social utopia possible. Reminds me of a lead balloon. The Reps could run just about anybody they want and win unless the Dems get their act together - and at present I see little chance for that. Richard
Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. --Mark Twain
I have to say that this was remarkably well-worded.
"I curse economic prosperity as it puts an end to much-needed poverty, famine and pestilence." -dennisd45
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dennisd45 wrote:
There is that, at least.
Well I guess hope springs eternal amongest those of little vision and depend on hope/dope to make it thru the day. Remember back before President Bush won his second term how he was vilefied by so many here in the box, how it was impossible that he would be elected AGAIN, how superior Kerry was in all manner to that poor ignorant daddys boy from some little hick town in Texas. Hell the man couldn't even speak English.The Supremes gave him the first election anyway. Only got into school cause Daddy went there. Dumb dumb dumb. Still enough dumb American red necks left the bar or the trailer park sober enough to make it to the polls to elect him anyway - in spite of the overwhelming evidence he was at least an idiot and at most a criminal who should be impeached, arrested, convicted, injected, inspected, and put away where he could bother no one. Well guess what - its gonna happen again. The Dems are probably gonna be dumb enough to run ole Hillary , push for a rollback of the tax cuts, go anti war, pro abortion, And assure us of a cure for SS, medicare, and all that ails us. All we have to do is "trust them" and give up 60-65% of all we earn to make this social utopia possible. Reminds me of a lead balloon. The Reps could run just about anybody they want and win unless the Dems get their act together - and at present I see little chance for that. Richard
Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. --Mark Twain
Richard Stringer wrote:
and give up 60-65% of all we earn to make this social utopia possible.
Pfft... 65% :rolleyes: It ain't that bad when you become used to it. Actually, it makes you feel ok when having your 6 weeks of vacation, because you wouldn't win that much by working anyway :-)
"God doesn't play dice" - Albert Einstein "God not only plays dice, He sometimes throws the dices where they cannot be seen" - Niels Bohr
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Richard Stringer wrote:
and give up 60-65% of all we earn to make this social utopia possible.
Pfft... 65% :rolleyes: It ain't that bad when you become used to it. Actually, it makes you feel ok when having your 6 weeks of vacation, because you wouldn't win that much by working anyway :-)
"God doesn't play dice" - Albert Einstein "God not only plays dice, He sometimes throws the dices where they cannot be seen" - Niels Bohr
The US has a per capita GDP of about 42,000 with a total GDP of $12.36 trillion ( with a T) snd a growth rate of about 3.5%. The US has a population of about 299,000,000. Denmark has a GDP of about $188.1 billion ( with a B) or a per capita rate of $34,600 with a growth rate of about 3.4%. Denmark has a population of about 5,500,000. Just looking at the figures should show that what may work to some degree in Denmark would simply not work for the US. Our workers are much more efficient as shown by the per capita GDP. We would go into a recession if we were to match Denmarks numbers. Denmark has a life expectancy at birth of 77.79 years . The US 77.85 years . So we are not killing ourselves with work. I don't think I wanna get used to it. I just want to pay my fair amount of taxes , keep as much as I can to provide for myself in my rapidly approaching old age, and depend on the Gov for as little as possible. Thats the American Way.
jan larsen wrote:
"God not only plays dice, He sometimes throws the dices where they cannot be seen" - Niels Bohr
See the Heisenberg indeterminacy principle which states that they are both confused to some degree.
Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. --Mark Twain
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The US has a per capita GDP of about 42,000 with a total GDP of $12.36 trillion ( with a T) snd a growth rate of about 3.5%. The US has a population of about 299,000,000. Denmark has a GDP of about $188.1 billion ( with a B) or a per capita rate of $34,600 with a growth rate of about 3.4%. Denmark has a population of about 5,500,000. Just looking at the figures should show that what may work to some degree in Denmark would simply not work for the US. Our workers are much more efficient as shown by the per capita GDP. We would go into a recession if we were to match Denmarks numbers. Denmark has a life expectancy at birth of 77.79 years . The US 77.85 years . So we are not killing ourselves with work. I don't think I wanna get used to it. I just want to pay my fair amount of taxes , keep as much as I can to provide for myself in my rapidly approaching old age, and depend on the Gov for as little as possible. Thats the American Way.
jan larsen wrote:
"God not only plays dice, He sometimes throws the dices where they cannot be seen" - Niels Bohr
See the Heisenberg indeterminacy principle which states that they are both confused to some degree.
Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. --Mark Twain
Richard Stringer wrote:
Our workers are much more efficient as shown by the per capita GDP.
I believe that there are other parameters than individual efficiency involved that influences the GDP per Capita value eg. Available resources (especially true because imports lowers the GDP). Oh, well, actually GDP doesn't say anything about efficiency at all.
Richard Stringer wrote:
Denmark has a life expectancy at birth of 77.79 years . The US 77.85 years . So we are not killing ourselves with work.
No, I know. All the people I know who've worked at a US office says the same: Extremely long working hours with low efficiency. This is for IT companies, I don't know if its comparable to other industries. These days every danish IT company has to deal with stress. Many companies offer stress workshops to help the employees deal with the high pressure. Personally, I know two guys who got knocked out by stress. One started to have blackouts, and the other experienced psychosomatic heart problems. Compare this to the expanding problem with overweight, and you get a population with lots of heart and bloodstream problems. Anyway, if you really want to draw in the GDP per capita, then this is the list for 2005[^], it seems that the GDP per Capita in Denmark is higher thatn in the US...
"God doesn't play dice" - Albert Einstein "God not only plays dice, He sometimes throws the dices where they cannot be seen" - Niels Bohr
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Richard Stringer wrote:
Our workers are much more efficient as shown by the per capita GDP.
I believe that there are other parameters than individual efficiency involved that influences the GDP per Capita value eg. Available resources (especially true because imports lowers the GDP). Oh, well, actually GDP doesn't say anything about efficiency at all.
Richard Stringer wrote:
Denmark has a life expectancy at birth of 77.79 years . The US 77.85 years . So we are not killing ourselves with work.
No, I know. All the people I know who've worked at a US office says the same: Extremely long working hours with low efficiency. This is for IT companies, I don't know if its comparable to other industries. These days every danish IT company has to deal with stress. Many companies offer stress workshops to help the employees deal with the high pressure. Personally, I know two guys who got knocked out by stress. One started to have blackouts, and the other experienced psychosomatic heart problems. Compare this to the expanding problem with overweight, and you get a population with lots of heart and bloodstream problems. Anyway, if you really want to draw in the GDP per capita, then this is the list for 2005[^], it seems that the GDP per Capita in Denmark is higher thatn in the US...
"God doesn't play dice" - Albert Einstein "God not only plays dice, He sometimes throws the dices where they cannot be seen" - Niels Bohr
jan larsen wrote:
No, I know. All the people I know who've worked at a US office says the same: Extremely long working hours with low efficiency.
Well I don't beleive that that is true with the exception of possibly the larger IT companies. I know of only one person who developed a nervous disorder that was wotk related but he wqs a big time worrier anyway. I personally have been in the business sice 1982 and other than genetic related hair loss :) am not seemingly affected.
jan larsen wrote:
nyway, if you really want to draw in the GDP per capita, then this is the list for 2005[^], it seems that the GDP per Capita in Denmark is higher thatn in the US...
I got my figured here: https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html#Econ[^] https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/da.html#Econ[^] The PPP figures are "supposed" to be a more accurate picture.
Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. --Mark Twain
