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  • G Gary R Wheeler

    I'm surprised it took four replies for the obvious answer :rolleyes:.


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    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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    I was just fulfilling my statistical duty. One out of every four messages on the internet contains the obvious answer. :-D

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    • G Gary R Wheeler

      I'm surprised it took four replies for the obvious answer :rolleyes:.


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      Well, I was still refining my wording.


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      • R Rajasekharan Vengalil

        Gentlemen/Ladies/Kids, What is the one tool that you always wished you had on Linux but isn't there? I recently installed Fedora Core 64 bit on my computer and I am just itching to write something on it so I can learn how stuff works on Linux. So if you want something written on Linux, go ahead and tell me!

        -- Ranju. V http://blogorama.nerdworks.in/ --

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        The last time I looked at the Linux world (about a year ago), I concluded there was no replacement for: WMA DRM files (paid video files such as video on demand) Adobe Photoshop Quicken (required to access my online banking) Visual Studio (and now would include MS Expression set) Microsoft Publisher (and now after using it for a little while Office 2007) Nero I am sure I am leaving a a few out, but the other big loss is my last two decades of programming experience on MS machines. There was also a problem with viewing DVDs legally when I last tired but they probably have some legal avenue by now.

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        • R Rajasekharan Vengalil

          Gentlemen/Ladies/Kids, What is the one tool that you always wished you had on Linux but isn't there? I recently installed Fedora Core 64 bit on my computer and I am just itching to write something on it so I can learn how stuff works on Linux. So if you want something written on Linux, go ahead and tell me!

          -- Ranju. V http://blogorama.nerdworks.in/ --

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          Paul Loree
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          Hmm.. will have to think of somethings that could be useful if your itching to write something for it.. Linux is the primary O/S's I run, Windows is only on my laptop to dual-boot for VS which I need to use for classes other than that every thing else I use my computers for is done in Slackware.

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          • R Rajasekharan Vengalil

            Gentlemen/Ladies/Kids, What is the one tool that you always wished you had on Linux but isn't there? I recently installed Fedora Core 64 bit on my computer and I am just itching to write something on it so I can learn how stuff works on Linux. So if you want something written on Linux, go ahead and tell me!

            -- Ranju. V http://blogorama.nerdworks.in/ --

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            Civilization IV[^] Polar WebLink[^]

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            • R Rocky Moore

              The last time I looked at the Linux world (about a year ago), I concluded there was no replacement for: WMA DRM files (paid video files such as video on demand) Adobe Photoshop Quicken (required to access my online banking) Visual Studio (and now would include MS Expression set) Microsoft Publisher (and now after using it for a little while Office 2007) Nero I am sure I am leaving a a few out, but the other big loss is my last two decades of programming experience on MS machines. There was also a problem with viewing DVDs legally when I last tired but they probably have some legal avenue by now.

              Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Anti-Spam idea - Help!

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              Jorgen Sigvardsson
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              Rocky Moore wrote:

              There was also a problem with viewing DVDs legally

              :confused: What do you mean by viewing "legally"?

              -- Mr. Bender's Wardrobe by ROBOTANY 500

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                Civilization IV[^] Polar WebLink[^]

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                Paul Loree
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                CivIV is fully supported in Linux w/ Cedega - CivIV[^]

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                  CivIV is fully supported in Linux w/ Cedega - CivIV[^]

                  Last modified: Sat 05 Aug 2006 08:16:27 AM CDT --

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                  Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                  The screenshot says 5 FPS. You call that support? :~

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                  • R Rocky Moore

                    The last time I looked at the Linux world (about a year ago), I concluded there was no replacement for: WMA DRM files (paid video files such as video on demand) Adobe Photoshop Quicken (required to access my online banking) Visual Studio (and now would include MS Expression set) Microsoft Publisher (and now after using it for a little while Office 2007) Nero I am sure I am leaving a a few out, but the other big loss is my last two decades of programming experience on MS machines. There was also a problem with viewing DVDs legally when I last tired but they probably have some legal avenue by now.

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                    Rocky Moore wrote:

                    WMA DRM files (paid video files such as video on demand) Adobe Photoshop Quicken (required to access my online banking) Visual Studio (and now would include MS Expression set) Microsoft Publisher (and now after using it for a little while Office 2007) Nero

                    DRM - who cares, a computer ain't for watching movies PhotoShop - you can run photoshop under WINE. There's always The Gimp, but I hate that program. Quicken - you can run Quicken under WINE. Visual Studio - I believe you can run VS6 under WINE, not sure about anything newer, but what's the point if you're doing .NET 2.0 or higher? You really should be on a windows system if you're a windows developer. Microsoft Publisher - the alternative is a program called "Scribus", but I don't know if it can open .pub files. Office 2007 - never used it, but I can't stand wWord in any incarnation, and don't really use the rest of the suite. OpenOffice is available, but like MSOffice, I don't really use it much Nero - a Linux-native version is available for free as long as you own the windows version too

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                      The screenshot says 5 FPS. You call that support? :~

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                      Paul Loree
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                      I didn't look at the screenshots myself I was just linking to it being playable - never had any fps issues running any games myself on any of my systems, some games actually increase fps in Linux over Windows on my systems such as the Unreal and Unreal Tournament games - will try post some screenshots once I get home from work today

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                      • P Paul Loree

                        I didn't look at the screenshots myself I was just linking to it being playable - never had any fps issues running any games myself on any of my systems, some games actually increase fps in Linux over Windows on my systems such as the Unreal and Unreal Tournament games - will try post some screenshots once I get home from work today

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                        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                        I did run UT on a Linux box a long time ago. Yeah, it was faster, but the graphics just didn't look too good. I used a GeForce 3 card.

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                        • R Rajasekharan Vengalil

                          Gentlemen/Ladies/Kids, What is the one tool that you always wished you had on Linux but isn't there? I recently installed Fedora Core 64 bit on my computer and I am just itching to write something on it so I can learn how stuff works on Linux. So if you want something written on Linux, go ahead and tell me!

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                          Jerry Hammond
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                          Linux? Isn't that a comic strip character?

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                          • R Rajasekharan Vengalil

                            Gentlemen/Ladies/Kids, What is the one tool that you always wished you had on Linux but isn't there? I recently installed Fedora Core 64 bit on my computer and I am just itching to write something on it so I can learn how stuff works on Linux. So if you want something written on Linux, go ahead and tell me!

                            -- Ranju. V http://blogorama.nerdworks.in/ --

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                            A binary-only distro A common package manager among all distros An "OS-only" distro that allows me to pick/choose additional software AFTER the OS is installed and stable A decent working relationship with hardware manufacturers - a lack of manufacturer-supported drivers is one of Linux's main failing points. Better default video support The recognition that to win over MS users, they have to provide an OS that is more like what the MS users are using now Documentation - although I can imagine that it's damn near impossible top provide this with a thousand distros being available that all do things different, not to mention a new kernel version every four months. There's more, but I got bored while writing this...

                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                              Rocky Moore wrote:

                              WMA DRM files (paid video files such as video on demand) Adobe Photoshop Quicken (required to access my online banking) Visual Studio (and now would include MS Expression set) Microsoft Publisher (and now after using it for a little while Office 2007) Nero

                              DRM - who cares, a computer ain't for watching movies PhotoShop - you can run photoshop under WINE. There's always The Gimp, but I hate that program. Quicken - you can run Quicken under WINE. Visual Studio - I believe you can run VS6 under WINE, not sure about anything newer, but what's the point if you're doing .NET 2.0 or higher? You really should be on a windows system if you're a windows developer. Microsoft Publisher - the alternative is a program called "Scribus", but I don't know if it can open .pub files. Office 2007 - never used it, but I can't stand wWord in any incarnation, and don't really use the rest of the suite. OpenOffice is available, but like MSOffice, I don't really use it much Nero - a Linux-native version is available for free as long as you own the windows version too

                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                              -----
                              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                              Nero - a Linux-native version is available for free as long as you own the windows version too

                              :wtf:

                              When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems

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                              • R Rajasekharan Vengalil

                                Gentlemen/Ladies/Kids, What is the one tool that you always wished you had on Linux but isn't there? I recently installed Fedora Core 64 bit on my computer and I am just itching to write something on it so I can learn how stuff works on Linux. So if you want something written on Linux, go ahead and tell me!

                                -- Ranju. V http://blogorama.nerdworks.in/ --

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                                Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                gleat wrote:

                                What do you miss most in Linux?

                                A decent debugger. And no, gdb doesn't qualify as one.

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                                • P Paul Loree

                                  I didn't look at the screenshots myself I was just linking to it being playable - never had any fps issues running any games myself on any of my systems, some games actually increase fps in Linux over Windows on my systems such as the Unreal and Unreal Tournament games - will try post some screenshots once I get home from work today

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                                  Bruce Duncan
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                                  Aren't the Unreal games actual Linux binaries? Whereas the Civ 4 linked above actually runs on top of a customized/modified version of Wine. That might account for performance differences...

                                  "Time sneaks up on you like a windshield on a bug."
                                  - John Lithgow

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                                  • J Jerry Hammond

                                    Linux? Isn't that a comic strip character?

                                    When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems

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                                    Gary R Wheeler
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                                    Bite your tongue. Charles Schultz* is spinning in his grave. (* actually, I seem to remember he wasn't a computer user at all)


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                                    • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                      Rocky Moore wrote:

                                      There was also a problem with viewing DVDs legally

                                      :confused: What do you mean by viewing "legally"?

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                                      Last i checked, DVD movies were still encrypted, which made it effectively illegal (in this great Land of the Once Free) to distribute information on how to decrypt them. Which is essentially what an open-source DVD player is. What, you don't remember the whole "DVD Jon" thing?

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                                        A binary-only distro A common package manager among all distros An "OS-only" distro that allows me to pick/choose additional software AFTER the OS is installed and stable A decent working relationship with hardware manufacturers - a lack of manufacturer-supported drivers is one of Linux's main failing points. Better default video support The recognition that to win over MS users, they have to provide an OS that is more like what the MS users are using now Documentation - although I can imagine that it's damn near impossible top provide this with a thousand distros being available that all do things different, not to mention a new kernel version every four months. There's more, but I got bored while writing this...

                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                        -----
                                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                        An "OS-only" distro that allows me to pick/choose additional software AFTER the OS is installed and stable

                                        Have you tried Debian Linux? That's how I always used to install it. Base first, and then the rest as needed.

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                                          A binary-only distro A common package manager among all distros An "OS-only" distro that allows me to pick/choose additional software AFTER the OS is installed and stable A decent working relationship with hardware manufacturers - a lack of manufacturer-supported drivers is one of Linux's main failing points. Better default video support The recognition that to win over MS users, they have to provide an OS that is more like what the MS users are using now Documentation - although I can imagine that it's damn near impossible top provide this with a thousand distros being available that all do things different, not to mention a new kernel version every four months. There's more, but I got bored while writing this...

                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                          -----
                                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                          Kevin McFarlane
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                                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                          The recognition that to win over MS users, they have to provide an OS that is more like what the MS users are using now

                                          Good point. It's a big reason why I like Firefox. Looks and behaves fairly similarly to IE 6 but has better functionality. Contrast this with Opera. Opera is good (I have it on my system too) but is rather idiosyncratic.

                                          Kevin

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