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  • J Jerry Hammond

    Linux? Isn't that a comic strip character?

    When was the last time you poured some wine for you and your sweetie and went out on the front porch to watch the geometry frolic on the lake?--Rebecca M. Riordan, Designing Effective Database Systems

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    Gary R Wheeler
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    Bite your tongue. Charles Schultz* is spinning in his grave. (* actually, I seem to remember he wasn't a computer user at all)


    Software Zen: delete this;

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    • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

      Rocky Moore wrote:

      There was also a problem with viewing DVDs legally

      :confused: What do you mean by viewing "legally"?

      -- Mr. Bender's Wardrobe by ROBOTANY 500

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      Shog9 0
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      Last i checked, DVD movies were still encrypted, which made it effectively illegal (in this great Land of the Once Free) to distribute information on how to decrypt them. Which is essentially what an open-source DVD player is. What, you don't remember the whole "DVD Jon" thing?

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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        A binary-only distro A common package manager among all distros An "OS-only" distro that allows me to pick/choose additional software AFTER the OS is installed and stable A decent working relationship with hardware manufacturers - a lack of manufacturer-supported drivers is one of Linux's main failing points. Better default video support The recognition that to win over MS users, they have to provide an OS that is more like what the MS users are using now Documentation - although I can imagine that it's damn near impossible top provide this with a thousand distros being available that all do things different, not to mention a new kernel version every four months. There's more, but I got bored while writing this...

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

        An "OS-only" distro that allows me to pick/choose additional software AFTER the OS is installed and stable

        Have you tried Debian Linux? That's how I always used to install it. Base first, and then the rest as needed.

        -- Based on a True Story

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          A binary-only distro A common package manager among all distros An "OS-only" distro that allows me to pick/choose additional software AFTER the OS is installed and stable A decent working relationship with hardware manufacturers - a lack of manufacturer-supported drivers is one of Linux's main failing points. Better default video support The recognition that to win over MS users, they have to provide an OS that is more like what the MS users are using now Documentation - although I can imagine that it's damn near impossible top provide this with a thousand distros being available that all do things different, not to mention a new kernel version every four months. There's more, but I got bored while writing this...

          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          Kevin McFarlane
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          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

          The recognition that to win over MS users, they have to provide an OS that is more like what the MS users are using now

          Good point. It's a big reason why I like Firefox. Looks and behaves fairly similarly to IE 6 but has better functionality. Contrast this with Opera. Opera is good (I have it on my system too) but is rather idiosyncratic.

          Kevin

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          • W wout de zeeuw

            (Documentation) consistency and decent development tools.

            Wout

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            Dario Solera
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            wout de zeeuw wrote:

            (Documentation) consistency and decent development tools.

            I agree, especially for APIs documentation. It's a mess.

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              Rocky Moore wrote:

              WMA DRM files (paid video files such as video on demand) Adobe Photoshop Quicken (required to access my online banking) Visual Studio (and now would include MS Expression set) Microsoft Publisher (and now after using it for a little while Office 2007) Nero

              DRM - who cares, a computer ain't for watching movies PhotoShop - you can run photoshop under WINE. There's always The Gimp, but I hate that program. Quicken - you can run Quicken under WINE. Visual Studio - I believe you can run VS6 under WINE, not sure about anything newer, but what's the point if you're doing .NET 2.0 or higher? You really should be on a windows system if you're a windows developer. Microsoft Publisher - the alternative is a program called "Scribus", but I don't know if it can open .pub files. Office 2007 - never used it, but I can't stand wWord in any incarnation, and don't really use the rest of the suite. OpenOffice is available, but like MSOffice, I don't really use it much Nero - a Linux-native version is available for free as long as you own the windows version too

              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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              Chris Maunder
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              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

              a computer ain't for watching movies

              What's it for? Spreadsheets?

              cheers, Chris Maunder

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                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                a computer ain't for watching movies

                What's it for? Spreadsheets?

                cheers, Chris Maunder

                CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                Shog9 0
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                And bar charts! Don't forget bar charts!

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                • R Rajasekharan Vengalil

                  Gentlemen/Ladies/Kids, What is the one tool that you always wished you had on Linux but isn't there? I recently installed Fedora Core 64 bit on my computer and I am just itching to write something on it so I can learn how stuff works on Linux. So if you want something written on Linux, go ahead and tell me!

                  -- Ranju. V http://blogorama.nerdworks.in/ --

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                  Vivek Rajan
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                  Decent power management

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    Rocky Moore wrote:

                    WMA DRM files (paid video files such as video on demand) Adobe Photoshop Quicken (required to access my online banking) Visual Studio (and now would include MS Expression set) Microsoft Publisher (and now after using it for a little while Office 2007) Nero

                    DRM - who cares, a computer ain't for watching movies PhotoShop - you can run photoshop under WINE. There's always The Gimp, but I hate that program. Quicken - you can run Quicken under WINE. Visual Studio - I believe you can run VS6 under WINE, not sure about anything newer, but what's the point if you're doing .NET 2.0 or higher? You really should be on a windows system if you're a windows developer. Microsoft Publisher - the alternative is a program called "Scribus", but I don't know if it can open .pub files. Office 2007 - never used it, but I can't stand wWord in any incarnation, and don't really use the rest of the suite. OpenOffice is available, but like MSOffice, I don't really use it much Nero - a Linux-native version is available for free as long as you own the windows version too

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                    -----
                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    dandy72
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                    > who cares, a computer ain't for watching movies I beg to differ John, I hook up one of my older machines to a projector to watch movies 8-feet across. I can't buy a TV that size for anything cheaper than what I've paid for both the PC and the projector. Granted my projector's resolution ain't that great, but at 800x600, it's already superior to what current DVDs support. The 5.1 audio built onto my motherboard ain't too shabby either.

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      Rocky Moore wrote:

                      WMA DRM files (paid video files such as video on demand) Adobe Photoshop Quicken (required to access my online banking) Visual Studio (and now would include MS Expression set) Microsoft Publisher (and now after using it for a little while Office 2007) Nero

                      DRM - who cares, a computer ain't for watching movies PhotoShop - you can run photoshop under WINE. There's always The Gimp, but I hate that program. Quicken - you can run Quicken under WINE. Visual Studio - I believe you can run VS6 under WINE, not sure about anything newer, but what's the point if you're doing .NET 2.0 or higher? You really should be on a windows system if you're a windows developer. Microsoft Publisher - the alternative is a program called "Scribus", but I don't know if it can open .pub files. Office 2007 - never used it, but I can't stand wWord in any incarnation, and don't really use the rest of the suite. OpenOffice is available, but like MSOffice, I don't really use it much Nero - a Linux-native version is available for free as long as you own the windows version too

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      peterchen
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                      Why should one run it under WINE when one could run it under Windows?


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                      • R Rajasekharan Vengalil

                        Gentlemen/Ladies/Kids, What is the one tool that you always wished you had on Linux but isn't there? I recently installed Fedora Core 64 bit on my computer and I am just itching to write something on it so I can learn how stuff works on Linux. So if you want something written on Linux, go ahead and tell me!

                        -- Ranju. V http://blogorama.nerdworks.in/ --

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                        Lost User
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                        A decent CAD application, maybe of AutoCAD LT quality.

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                        • R Rajasekharan Vengalil

                          Gentlemen/Ladies/Kids, What is the one tool that you always wished you had on Linux but isn't there? I recently installed Fedora Core 64 bit on my computer and I am just itching to write something on it so I can learn how stuff works on Linux. So if you want something written on Linux, go ahead and tell me!

                          -- Ranju. V http://blogorama.nerdworks.in/ --

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                          Ed Poore
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                          Visual Studio 2005 :cool:


                          As of how to accomplish this I wouldn't have a clue at the moment and I'm too lazy to google it

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                          • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                            An "OS-only" distro that allows me to pick/choose additional software AFTER the OS is installed and stable

                            Have you tried Debian Linux? That's how I always used to install it. Base first, and then the rest as needed.

                            -- Based on a True Story

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                            You can pick and choose what you install in FreeBSD as well. You can run sysinstall again and go back to add packages, or if stuff you need isn't included on the install CD, download it and compile it if you know what you are doing. I know, it's technically not linux but we are still talking about pretty much the same problems in most cases. I really agree on the driver issues, since even some NIC cards are not supported. Though that is probably good for newbies who know nothing about security :laugh: Roswell

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                              You can pick and choose what you install in FreeBSD as well. You can run sysinstall again and go back to add packages, or if stuff you need isn't included on the install CD, download it and compile it if you know what you are doing. I know, it's technically not linux but we are still talking about pretty much the same problems in most cases. I really agree on the driver issues, since even some NIC cards are not supported. Though that is probably good for newbies who know nothing about security :laugh: Roswell

                              "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
                              Antonio VillaRaigosa
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                              Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                              Yeah, which is why I'm running FreeBSD as firewall/server. :)

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                              • R Rajasekharan Vengalil

                                Gentlemen/Ladies/Kids, What is the one tool that you always wished you had on Linux but isn't there? I recently installed Fedora Core 64 bit on my computer and I am just itching to write something on it so I can learn how stuff works on Linux. So if you want something written on Linux, go ahead and tell me!

                                -- Ranju. V http://blogorama.nerdworks.in/ --

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                                Member 96
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                                A job I guess. With windows I've had work for years with Linux I'd be eating grass and sleeping in ditches.

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                                  > who cares, a computer ain't for watching movies I beg to differ John, I hook up one of my older machines to a projector to watch movies 8-feet across. I can't buy a TV that size for anything cheaper than what I've paid for both the PC and the projector. Granted my projector's resolution ain't that great, but at 800x600, it's already superior to what current DVDs support. The 5.1 audio built onto my motherboard ain't too shabby either.

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                                  Daniel Desormeaux wrote:

                                  I hook up one of my older machines to a projector to watch movies 8-feet across.

                                  :cool: What all do you have running you setup?


                                  I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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                                  • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                    gleat wrote:

                                    What do you miss most in Linux?

                                    A decent debugger. And no, gdb doesn't qualify as one.

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                                    Diagon Alley
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                                    I completely agree!! :)

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                                      Daniel Desormeaux wrote:

                                      I hook up one of my older machines to a projector to watch movies 8-feet across.

                                      :cool: What all do you have running you setup?


                                      I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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                                      > What all do you have running you setup? Not sure I understand your question. It's a standard PC with a couple of video cards, one being hooked up permanently to the projector so I'm not constantly moving cables around. The projector's got VGA, composite and S-Video inputs, so I use both for watching DVDs off the PC and TV off the satellite receiver (feeding the projector through S-Video, which is the best this particular receiver can do). So it also saves me a lot of room. Of course the picture can't compare with a high-end HD set, but your standard boardroom projector can be bought for a few hundred bucks nowadays--far cheaper than any such TV.

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                                      • W wout de zeeuw

                                        (Documentation) consistency and decent development tools.

                                        Wout

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                                        led mike
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                                        so.... everything. :-D

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                                        • R Rajasekharan Vengalil

                                          Gentlemen/Ladies/Kids, What is the one tool that you always wished you had on Linux but isn't there? I recently installed Fedora Core 64 bit on my computer and I am just itching to write something on it so I can learn how stuff works on Linux. So if you want something written on Linux, go ahead and tell me!

                                          -- Ranju. V http://blogorama.nerdworks.in/ --

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                                          Giles
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                                          Hello world.


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