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  • L Lost User

    This community is just a bunch of arrogant C* programmers... why even have a VB section? This whole thing has been very dissapointing.

    www.thecodeproject.com - Destroying any hope of learning how to program.

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    If you really bothered to learn anything about the .NET Framework, you would have found that C# and VB.NET are nearly interchangable. My primary language is VB.NET, but if there's something I need that VB.NET doesn't support, like unsafe code blocks and pointers, I'll write that module in C# and have a mixed language project. What's the point of that?? You can't go wrong learning multiple languages!! If you wanted to learn VB.NET and found that some sample code was written in C#, learn to translate it. You'll learn C# at the same time you learn VB.NET!! We're not the arrogant ones here...

    Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic

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      They're knobs. I didn't see the article and therefore didn't see the replies. But I can't see where posting code in replies would have been useful. Unless of course you had glaring errors or requested feedback. Using the language you originally posted in would have been courteous. Fuck 'em all, I still wouldn't have deleted the article.

      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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      Leslie Sanford
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      Michael Martin wrote:

      I didn't see the article and therefore didn't see the replies. But I can't see where posting code in replies would have been useful.

      I've seen and done this plenty of times. Sometimes it's helpful to express an idea through code. A common scenario is to post a message to an article's message board with a snippet of code to illustrate your point.

      Michael Martin wrote:

      Using the language you originally posted in would have been courteous.

      Enh, the language used is a formality, especially with .NET.

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      • L Lost User

        S Douglas wrote:

        Seems rather childish, if you can’t take a little criticism here and there where on earth are you going to fit in?

        The USA.

        Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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        Michael Martin wrote:

        The USA.

        Really? I think we tolerate a rather lot of criticism with good cheer.

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          Michael Martin wrote:

          The USA.

          Really? I think we tolerate a rather lot of criticism with good cheer.

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          Rob Graham wrote:

          Really? I think we tolerate a rather lot of criticism with good cheer.

          Maybe some, but there is a lot of whinging and whining about the US's overbearing way. Kind of the whole got to break a few eggs to make an omlette scenario, as long as your the cook and not the eggs you think it's all fine. Could be you missed my cunning Aussie sarcasm or the whole Jewish complex is overtaking the US.

          Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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          • L Lost User

            I do not want to be a part of this ungrateful community any longer. Tell me how to delete my account.

            www.thecodeproject.com - Destroying any hope of learning how to program.

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            I know, I'm late for this party, but... If you simply stop coming here, nobody will apparently miss you. Heck, in a week, they probably won't even remember your name. In their minds, your account won't exist, and they won't even be able to recall fond memories of you being an asshat before you vanished. If you want to leave little/no footprints, delete your article, and then delete all of the messages you've posted on the site. Yeah, you'll have to delete messages one at a time, but hey, what do you want? A rubber biscuit?

            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            • L Lost User

              I do not want to be a part of this ungrateful community any longer. Tell me how to delete my account.

              www.thecodeproject.com - Destroying any hope of learning how to program.

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              baloneyman
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              Welcome to the Hotel California?

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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                I know, I'm late for this party, but... If you simply stop coming here, nobody will apparently miss you. Heck, in a week, they probably won't even remember your name. In their minds, your account won't exist, and they won't even be able to recall fond memories of you being an asshat before you vanished. If you want to leave little/no footprints, delete your article, and then delete all of the messages you've posted on the site. Yeah, you'll have to delete messages one at a time, but hey, what do you want? A rubber biscuit?

                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                brianwelsch
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                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                what do you want? A rubber biscuit?

                Bow bow bow....herwadda heywadda hoowadda

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                • D Dave Kreskowiak

                  BorgPidgeon wrote:

                  Had the people who replied to my article done so with VB code I would have taken on what they said and updated my article accordingly

                  Why does the language have anything to do with the quality of the reply?? C# and VB.NET and almost entirely interchangable. There are a few things that C# supports that VB.NET doesn't and the reverse is also true, but for the most part, they translate directly statement for statement. That's why people were telling you C#=VB.NET. If you look at the code samples all over the MSDN Help or MSDN site, you'll find thousands of Rosetta stones showing this to be true. You could have learned something there if you just put a tiny bit of effort into it! But no, you had to call everything SPAM because it contained C# code samples...

                  Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic

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                  Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                  C# and VB.NET and almost entirely interchangable

                  in concept yes, but not in syntax. to him it was like reading spanish when he knows french. similar languages, yes, but not nearly the same enough. After all, he's a newbie to programming and VB.NET in particular. Do you really expect that he would be able to translate the C# examples into VB.NET? Your post proves his point about the arrogance of (some) CP members.

                  Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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                    If you really bothered to learn anything about the .NET Framework, you would have found that C# and VB.NET are nearly interchangable. My primary language is VB.NET, but if there's something I need that VB.NET doesn't support, like unsafe code blocks and pointers, I'll write that module in C# and have a mixed language project. What's the point of that?? You can't go wrong learning multiple languages!! If you wanted to learn VB.NET and found that some sample code was written in C#, learn to translate it. You'll learn C# at the same time you learn VB.NET!! We're not the arrogant ones here...

                    Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic

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                    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                    Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                    you would have found that C# and VB.NET are nearly interchangable

                    in concept, but not in syntax.

                    Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                    We're not the arrogant ones here

                    actually you are. he's new to programming and asked for help in learning what he wanted to learn. your attitude is like giving advice in how to build a castle when someone asks how to build a two-room cottage and then complaining when they point out you're not answering their question or providing help in they way they need it. you need to grow up.

                    Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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                    • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                      Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                      C# and VB.NET and almost entirely interchangable

                      in concept yes, but not in syntax. to him it was like reading spanish when he knows french. similar languages, yes, but not nearly the same enough. After all, he's a newbie to programming and VB.NET in particular. Do you really expect that he would be able to translate the C# examples into VB.NET? Your post proves his point about the arrogance of (some) CP members.

                      Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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                      ahz wrote:

                      in concept yes, but not in syntax. to him it was like reading spanish when he knows french. similar languages, yes, but not nearly the same enough. After all, he's a newbie to programming and VB.NET in particular.

                      If I understand his situation, he posted an article containing VB.NET code and got angry when people posted comments to the article's message board containing C# code (he doesn't know C#). If that's the case, and he's a beginner programmer, maybe it would have been better if he had waited about posting an article? I didn't see the article, so I can't comment on the quality of it. I think, however, that it's not unreasonable to expect a certain level of expertise from someone posting an article. This would vary depending on the article's aims, but if he's truly a newbie, I would respectfully suggest looking before leaping.

                      ahz wrote:

                      Do you really expect that he would be able to translate the C# examples into VB.NET?

                      Maybe not. I would expect a civil exchange in which he politely asked for a VB version if he were having trouble. Did he do this?

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                      • L Lost User

                        Rob Graham wrote:

                        Really? I think we tolerate a rather lot of criticism with good cheer.

                        Maybe some, but there is a lot of whinging and whining about the US's overbearing way. Kind of the whole got to break a few eggs to make an omlette scenario, as long as your the cook and not the eggs you think it's all fine. Could be you missed my cunning Aussie sarcasm or the whole Jewish complex is overtaking the US.

                        Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                        leckey 0
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                        Michael Martin wrote:

                        Jewish complex

                        What is that supposed to mean?

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                        • L leckey 0

                          Michael Martin wrote:

                          Jewish complex

                          What is that supposed to mean?

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                          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                          some people believe that the US is controlled/manipulated/manuvered(sp?) by some super-secret, all-encompassing Jewish conspiracy.

                          Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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                            some people believe that the US is controlled/manipulated/manuvered(sp?) by some super-secret, all-encompassing Jewish conspiracy.

                            Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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                            ahz wrote:

                            some people believe that the US is controlled/manipulated/manuvered(sp?) by some super-secret, all-encompassing Jewish conspiracy.

                            And some people believe that aliens exist and have nothing better to do than to sneak around the Earth smashing weird patterns in farm fields and dismembering cattle. :wtf::omg::wtf::omg::wtf::omg::wtf::omg::wtf:

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                              ahz wrote:

                              some people believe that the US is controlled/manipulated/manuvered(sp?) by some super-secret, all-encompassing Jewish conspiracy.

                              And some people believe that aliens exist and have nothing better to do than to sneak around the Earth smashing weird patterns in farm fields and dismembering cattle. :wtf::omg::wtf::omg::wtf::omg::wtf::omg::wtf:

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                              dan neely wrote:

                              aliens exist

                              I'm sure they do.

                              dan neely wrote:

                              have nothing better to do

                              One wonders. Perhaps some of the aliens are wiseacres who like playing practical jokes on lower lifeforms. But you're probably right.

                              Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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                              • L Lost User

                                S Douglas wrote:

                                You can't, or at least I have never seen a way. Not even sure why you would want to.

                                You don't need to understand why he would want too.

                                S Douglas wrote:

                                Umm, then don't participate in any of the discussions here. I don't think Chris & company forces anyone to post here.

                                That doesn't answer his question. He wants to delete his account. Code Project should give him the chance.

                                Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                                Michael Martin wrote:

                                You don't need to understand why he would want too.

                                Why not? He posed a question in a public forum, I responded. How did your post help his cause? :)

                                Michael Martin wrote:

                                That doesn't answer his question. He wants to delete his account.

                                My second comment was about his participation in CP, had nothing to do with deleting his account.

                                BorgPidgeon wrote:

                                I do not want to be a part of this ungrateful community any longer.

                                S Douglas wrote:

                                Umm, then don't participate in any of the discussions here. I don't think Chris & company forces anyone to post here.

                                Michael Martin wrote:

                                He wants to delete his account. Code Project should give him the chance.

                                Really? Why not just change the email address assigned to the CP account here and be done with it? Why make some public announcement? Sheesh, make a smart aleck reply on a board full of smart alecks, and what do yea get a smart aleck reply. :)


                                I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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                                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                  what do you want? A rubber biscuit?

                                  Bow bow bow....herwadda heywadda hoowadda

                                  BW


                                  If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
                                  -- Steven Wright

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                                  ...Do that again....bow bow bow....

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                                    I came here because I had litterally only just begun to use VB.NET and I really wanted to learn how to use it properly. I had searched through a lot of other sites for information on delegates but couldn't find anything that explained what I wanted to know. I finally peiced together what I thought was enough information (because it actually worked in code) and wrote an article to help other new people who were having problems with the same subject. What did I recieve? I wrote a VB.NET article and the only comments I recieved were idiots telling me VB.NET = C#.. why? I hadn't asked that question.. I made no alusion that it might be the same I hadn't even mentioned C# originally. So why bombard me with C# code that is obviously more advanced than the article? It's not helpful to spam a newbie with code that is not even in the language they wanted to learn. This is why I think the majority of the community is arrogant, disrespectful and stupid. Had the people who replied to my article done so with VB code I would have taken on what they said and updated my article accordingly. But they couldn't even do that, instead they just SPAM SPAM SPAM.

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                                    BorgPidgeon wrote:

                                    I wrote a VB.NET article and the only comments I recieved were idiots

                                    BorgPidgeon wrote:

                                    This is why I think the majority of the community is arrogant, disrespectful and stupid.

                                    Wow. You had more than 1.5 million comments?

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                                    • A Andy Davies

                                      i would quite like to know what is wrong with this community? i dont post often, only when i feel it nessaccary, and i have always been received well/treated well.

                                      http://www.stormbase.net

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                                      That's a nice Firefox-eats-IE(?) logo, btw. :-D

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        Well you're just stupid aren't you :) I am leaving... but I wanted to delete my account. Judging by the amount of idiocy here it looks like that's not even possible. How long before the account times out?

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                                        In a lot of ways I can sympathize with how you feel. In another way I want to say you had better get used to this. Software engineers tend to be cocky and arrogant. Just the way it is. I don't advocate that nor do I personally except. I have 10 articles right now and 2 of them were *really* well received the votes I've gotten on the other 8 (3's) tell me they are not bad and could be well received but I need to beef them up a bit more. I'd advise you to not focus on what others think so much. Nobody here is friends or family and they will likely not ever share your bed or your home. They don't matter. Taking pride in your work *should* matter though, right? So if they answered you in C# and gave you flippant responses stand your ground. Not rudely but politely ask them to provide code in VB if they wouldn't mind. Explain that you are new and would benefit. Now having said that... *MANY* people here are C fundamentalist, C Radical Fundamentalists. I'd almost equate them with terrorists as fanatical as they can be but thankfully none of them is guilty of any form of terrorism other than sharp whit and tongue. If you are in the VB crowd just keep on rolling and ignore them. You'll win their respect if you don't react to them at all. Just keep doing your thing but make sure it's quality stuff. Wanting to delete your account is one thing. Just email the webmaster. Links are on every page and ask them to remove your account. You'll be doing the webmaster and yourself a favor. Don't post here it makes you look like a whiner wanting to score sympathy points. Just stand your ground in silence. Humility has never hurt anyone that I'm aware of but unearned praise has caused a lot of problems.


                                        I only read cp for the articles.

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                                          Welcome to the Hotel California?

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