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  • C Chris Maunder

    Zac Howland wrote:

    I take it this is in Java?

    <looks around at all the C# code lying about the place, then looks under books and desks for signs of Java code> err, no :D

    cheers, Chris Maunder

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    Zac Howland
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    Chris Maunder wrote:

    looks around at all the C# code lying about the place

    :sigh: I've used C# so much that I completely forgot it also had a String.Empty ... :doh:

    If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week Zac

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    • C Chris Maunder

      If you have a function that returns a string, and that function fails, do you prefer to return null or String.Empty? Vote 1 = null Vote 5 = String.Empty

      cheers, Chris Maunder

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      Either depending on how critical it is.

      My responsibility ends where your ability to think for yourself begins.

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      • J Judah Gabriel Himango

        Jeremy Falcon wrote:

        even if it gets bad params

        I'm a believer that once you start tolerating bad input, your whole system gets messed up. In my experience, it's best to stop when you get bad input, otherwise all sorts of things start going wrong. Of course, since you're writing C, exceptions are out of the question for you. The best you can do is return soon as you get bad input, and hope the caller checks your error code.

        Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Dumbest. Movie. Title. Evaaar. The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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        Jeremy Falcon
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        Judah Himango wrote:

        I'm a believer that once you start tolerating bad input, your whole system gets messed up.

        Um, nobody said to tolerate it. I said to let the caller know something was bogus. And, letting the caller know a value is messing up a system, I'd wager there were really other aspects in that system(s) that lead to the issues.

        Judah Himango wrote:

        Of course, since you're writing C, exceptions are out of the question for you. The best you can do is return soon as you get bad input, and hope the caller checks your error code.

        Most people tend to use exceptions in a poor way. It's about program flow really.

        Jeremy Falcon A multithreaded, OpenGL-enabled application.[^]

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        • C Chris Maunder

          If you have a function that returns a string, and that function fails, do you prefer to return null or String.Empty? Vote 1 = null Vote 5 = String.Empty

          cheers, Chris Maunder

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          Christian Graus
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          String.Empty, of course. Just like I'd always use Environment.NewLine, even though I know what it is always going to be. Any sort of constant defined by the framework is there to be used, it documents your code and it means that you're conforming to the framework, assuming that one day it may exist on anothe platform where any of those values may concievably change. Just like I'd always use SW_HIDE and not 0, I know it won't change, but it doesn't hurt to do things properly.

          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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            String.Empty, of course. Just like I'd always use Environment.NewLine, even though I know what it is always going to be. Any sort of constant defined by the framework is there to be used, it documents your code and it means that you're conforming to the framework, assuming that one day it may exist on anothe platform where any of those values may concievably change. Just like I'd always use SW_HIDE and not 0, I know it won't change, but it doesn't hurt to do things properly.

            Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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            Christian Graus wrote:

            Just like I'd always use SW_HIDE and not 0

            Uh, i think the choice was between String.Empty (== "") and null (== null)...

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              Christian Graus wrote:

              Just like I'd always use SW_HIDE and not 0

              Uh, i think the choice was between String.Empty (== "") and null (== null)...

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              Oh - that's what I get for responding first thing in the morning. I *always* use string.IsNullOrEmpty to check strings, so the end result for me is the same.

              Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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              • C Chris Maunder

                If you have a function that returns a string, and that function fails, do you prefer to return null or String.Empty? Vote 1 = null Vote 5 = String.Empty

                cheers, Chris Maunder

                CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                Paul Watson
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                Null in the Maunderverse but normally an exception in mine. I guess if it was in the context of nullable columns in a database then you could return null for a string return type. But I think a failure should be indicated by an exception, not a null that subsequent code will trip over without additional checking. Then again you could just start using Ruby and stop worrying... ;)

                regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

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                eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  I love it how a discussion on programming techniques invariable leads to a general slamming of VB. Poor VB...

                  cheers, Chris Maunder

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                  Jeremy Falcon
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                  It was just too tempting. I don't know. It's like, bashing VB is just there for the taking. :laugh:

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                  • L led mike

                    Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                    Anyone that uses an empty string needs to lay down the VB books IMO

                    That's just foolish.

                    led mike

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                    led mike wrote:

                    That's just foolish.

                    Unlike your foolish crap in the SB, mine was also a joke. I suspect in your attempt to "get back at me", reality escaped you. Now, so you don't seem crazy, this is where you reply saying yours was also a joke. But, we both know the reason you said it. And to that I say, next time try understanding what I'm saying when I say you're acting a fool rather than get all butt hurt and learn nothing.

                    Jeremy Falcon A multithreaded, OpenGL-enabled application.[^]

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                    • J Jeremy Falcon

                      led mike wrote:

                      That's just foolish.

                      Unlike your foolish crap in the SB, mine was also a joke. I suspect in your attempt to "get back at me", reality escaped you. Now, so you don't seem crazy, this is where you reply saying yours was also a joke. But, we both know the reason you said it. And to that I say, next time try understanding what I'm saying when I say you're acting a fool rather than get all butt hurt and learn nothing.

                      Jeremy Falcon A multithreaded, OpenGL-enabled application.[^]

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                      led mike
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                      :laugh: Not at all. I never figured out what yours meant so the next time I saw you post I replied "That's just foolish", it doesn't mean anything. :-D

                      led mike

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