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  • N Nish Nishant

    Muslims - A generic term used to refer to moderate followers of Islam and also extremist Islamic terrorists. We really need to have 2 different terms since the two categories are extremely unlike each other.

    Regards, Nish


    Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
    Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

    Muslims - A generic term used to refer to moderate followers of Islam and also extremist Islamic terrorists. We really need to have 2 different terms since the two categories are extremely unlike each other.

    I wish I could give you ten 5's. (Of course, someone here has several accounts with which to vote... you'll probably get hit with 20 1's.)

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      Curry.

      Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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      • N Nish Nishant

        Muslims - A generic term used to refer to moderate followers of Islam and also extremist Islamic terrorists. We really need to have 2 different terms since the two categories are extremely unlike each other.

        Regards, Nish


        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
        Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

        We really need to have 2 different terms since the two categories are extremely unlike each other.

        Good Idea, how about: 1) Good people 2) Assholes :-D

        "I've found that the shortcomings of human nature have little to do with nationality."
        Christopher Duncan in the Lounge

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        • A Alvaro Mendez

          Mike Gaskey wrote:

          Members of a religion of peace

          Have you met any American Muslims? I have. And they're peaceful.


          If [God] knows what we are going to do then we have no free will and are just characters in a play written by him. Without free will, morality for humans makes no sense. Without free will and morality, any sort of punishment or reward system loses any justification. Heaven and hell would be places where [God] could watch the souls he created, predestined just for eternal happiness or agony. - Mark Thomas

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          Alvaro Mendez wrote:

          Have you met any American Muslims?

          yep - 2. both taxi drivers. one a Palestinian immigrant, the other a recent immigrant from Nigeria.

          Alvaro Mendez wrote:

          I have. And they're peaceful.

          so were these 2. Both incounters were post 9-11. As a result, once I discovered they were Muslims I engaged them in conversations. The Palestinian was roughly my age and had been in the US for quite some time. That conversation was focused on the evil of Israel. The conversation with the Nigerian was more interesting. It was focused on his feeling and dedication to his family's success and well being. However, I have no idea what their demeanor would be if at Friday prayers their Imam told them to slit the throat of anyone wearing a Christian symbol.

          Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors. Vincent Reynolds: My opposition is as enlightened as your support, jackass. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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            Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

            Muslims - A generic term used to refer to moderate followers of Islam and also extremist Islamic terrorists. We really need to have 2 different terms since the two categories are extremely unlike each other.

            I wish I could give you ten 5's. (Of course, someone here has several accounts with which to vote... you'll probably get hit with 20 1's.)

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            Nish Nishant
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            David Kentley wrote:

            (Of course, someone here has several accounts with which to vote... you'll probably get hit with 20 1's.)

            Yeah, that's happened to me a few times - was sorta weird the first time :-)

            Regards, Nish


            Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
            Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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            • N Nish Nishant

              Muslims - A generic term used to refer to moderate followers of Islam and also extremist Islamic terrorists. We really need to have 2 different terms since the two categories are extremely unlike each other.

              Regards, Nish


              Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
              Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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              Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

              Muslims - A generic term used to refer to moderate followers of Islam and also extremist Islamic terrorists.

              You have it backwards. The "extremists" are the real followers of the Koran, and the peaceful muslims like Adnan Siddiqi are apostates.

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                Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                Muslims - A generic term used to refer to moderate followers of Islam and also extremist Islamic terrorists.

                You have it backwards. The "extremists" are the real followers of the Koran, and the peaceful muslims like Adnan Siddiqi are apostates.

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                Nish Nishant
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                You have it backwards. The "extremists" are the real followers of the Koran, and the peaceful muslims like Adnan Siddiqi are apostates.

                Anyone who takes what's written in a centuries old book as the absolute will be an extremist, whether that book is the bible, the quran, or the gita.

                Regards, Nish


                Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                • M Mike Gaskey

                  Alvaro Mendez wrote:

                  Have you met any American Muslims?

                  yep - 2. both taxi drivers. one a Palestinian immigrant, the other a recent immigrant from Nigeria.

                  Alvaro Mendez wrote:

                  I have. And they're peaceful.

                  so were these 2. Both incounters were post 9-11. As a result, once I discovered they were Muslims I engaged them in conversations. The Palestinian was roughly my age and had been in the US for quite some time. That conversation was focused on the evil of Israel. The conversation with the Nigerian was more interesting. It was focused on his feeling and dedication to his family's success and well being. However, I have no idea what their demeanor would be if at Friday prayers their Imam told them to slit the throat of anyone wearing a Christian symbol.

                  Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors. Vincent Reynolds: My opposition is as enlightened as your support, jackass. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                  Alvaro Mendez
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                  Mike Gaskey wrote:

                  However, I have no idea what their demeanor would be if at Friday prayers their Imam told them to slit the throat of anyone wearing a Christian symbol.

                  Good question, although I'm pretty sure that if an Imam were to that, his ass would be swiftly carted off to jail (at least in this country). Alvaro


                  If [God] knows what we are going to do then we have no free will and are just characters in a play written by him. Without free will, morality for humans makes no sense. Without free will and morality, any sort of punishment or reward system loses any justification. Heaven and hell would be places where [God] could watch the souls he created, predestined just for eternal happiness or agony. - Mark Thomas

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                    Score: 1.0 (3 votes). wrote:

                    You have it backwards. The "extremists" are the real followers of the Koran, and the peaceful muslims like Adnan Siddiqi are apostates.

                    Anyone who takes what's written in a centuries old book as the absolute will be an extremist, whether that book is the bible, the quran, or the gita.

                    Regards, Nish


                    Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                    Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                    Anyone who takes what's written in a centuries old book

                    what if it is written on the wind as old as the Earth?

                    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                    • A Alvaro Mendez

                      Mike Gaskey wrote:

                      Members of a religion of peace

                      Have you met any American Muslims? I have. And they're peaceful.


                      If [God] knows what we are going to do then we have no free will and are just characters in a play written by him. Without free will, morality for humans makes no sense. Without free will and morality, any sort of punishment or reward system loses any justification. Heaven and hell would be places where [God] could watch the souls he created, predestined just for eternal happiness or agony. - Mark Thomas

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                      I met one peaceful american muslim. he was my undergraduate advisor and originally from iran. we used to get into some fun discussions. he once asked, 'are jews allowed to drink alcohol?' I explained how we have one holiday in which were are encouraged to get drunk. he said, 'oh we muslims get screwed on that.' other than him, i'm still wary of muslims. but then again, i make it obvious that i'm a jew so they probably resent me from the start.

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