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Coding down under - is the demand that high?

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    http://www.techweb.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=193004331[^]

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      Nish Nishant
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      Among some of the most prominent Aussie CPians, Chris M is in Canada, CG works for a Canadian company (and contracts for a Texas company), and Michael Martin works at a pub. I am not so sure Australia is hot ground for tech people :-)

      Regards, Nish


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        Outsourcing - is this the beginning of the end for this practice ? Should outsourcing be considered a "bug" in Upper Management thinking, if so, should it be addressed in the new CP forum.

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          http://www.techweb.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=193004331[^]

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          Hey, I'm looking for work. Where do you sign up?

          Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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            Hey, I'm looking for work. Where do you sign up?

            Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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            The Embassy or Consulate for the Government of Australia should have information packs. Google for their USA offices.

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              Outsourcing - is this the beginning of the end for this practice ? Should outsourcing be considered a "bug" in Upper Management thinking, if so, should it be addressed in the new CP forum.

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              Richard A. Abbott wrote:

              Should outsourcing be considered a "bug" in Upper Management

              Upper Management "is" a bug.

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                I looked into it several years back and found the pay to be low and the cost of living high. So for me is was not an option.

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                  I looked into it several years back and found the pay to be low and the cost of living high. So for me is was not an option.

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                  But the weather, the beaches and the quality of life is superb :D

                  cheers, Chris Maunder

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                    But the weather, the beaches and the quality of life is superb :D

                    cheers, Chris Maunder

                    CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                    But the weather, the beaches and the quality of life is superb :-D

                    ...the beer.

                    Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                      But the weather, the beaches and the quality of life is superb :D

                      cheers, Chris Maunder

                      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                      Absolutely a beautiful country, no doubt.

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                      quality of life

                      That term can be misleading. For example I get 4 weeks vacation per year. In AU I might get 6 weeks. During my 4 weeks US vacation time, I can do almost anything due to a high level of disposable income. In AU I would have to spend my 6 weeks vacation on sitting on the porch. I would rather have 4 weeks of action than 6 weeks of slivers in my arse. :-D

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                        Absolutely a beautiful country, no doubt.

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                        quality of life

                        That term can be misleading. For example I get 4 weeks vacation per year. In AU I might get 6 weeks. During my 4 weeks US vacation time, I can do almost anything due to a high level of disposable income. In AU I would have to spend my 6 weeks vacation on sitting on the porch. I would rather have 4 weeks of action than 6 weeks of slivers in my arse. :-D

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                        Wow Mike - you make it sound like we're all living on $1 a day and continually resoldering our old pots and pans to survive. I'm not sure what job you were doing down there, or what sort of activities the pay from that job failed to cover, but your descriptions are very alien to mine and my friends.

                        cheers, Chris Maunder

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                          Wow Mike - you make it sound like we're all living on $1 a day and continually resoldering our old pots and pans to survive. I'm not sure what job you were doing down there, or what sort of activities the pay from that job failed to cover, but your descriptions are very alien to mine and my friends.

                          cheers, Chris Maunder

                          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                          alien to mine and my friends

                          You mean friends like :bob: :rolleyes:


                          I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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                            Wow Mike - you make it sound like we're all living on $1 a day and continually resoldering our old pots and pans to survive. I'm not sure what job you were doing down there, or what sort of activities the pay from that job failed to cover, but your descriptions are very alien to mine and my friends.

                            cheers, Chris Maunder

                            CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                            I'm not sure what job you were doing down there

                            Sorry I guess I misrepresented my information. Using the Web, I looked at developer jobs in AU and their salary ranges. Then I looked up Real Estate prices in AU. Did some simple math using my current salary and Real Estate prices in my location. That's all. The difference in disposable income was significant.

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                              Among some of the most prominent Aussie CPians, Chris M is in Canada, CG works for a Canadian company (and contracts for a Texas company), and Michael Martin works at a pub. I am not so sure Australia is hot ground for tech people :-)

                              Regards, Nish


                              Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                              Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog

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                              Excellent point, Nish!:-D

                              "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9

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                                Excellent point, Nish!:-D

                                "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9

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                                Nish Nishant
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                                Roger Wright wrote:

                                Excellent point, Nish!

                                Thank you :-D

                                Regards, Nish


                                Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog

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                                  Chris Maunder wrote:

                                  I'm not sure what job you were doing down there

                                  Sorry I guess I misrepresented my information. Using the Web, I looked at developer jobs in AU and their salary ranges. Then I looked up Real Estate prices in AU. Did some simple math using my current salary and Real Estate prices in my location. That's all. The difference in disposable income was significant.

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                                  In Sydney you can easily spend a third of your salary on rent (for an average place). Obviously it depends where you want to live though, and how big a place. So what kind of percentage would this be in the biggest US cities?

                                  "For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza

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                                    There is plenty of work, pay is good and the life style is awsome. We are having trouble finding enough skilled people to work here. Anyone want a job? :)

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                                      In Sydney you can easily spend a third of your salary on rent (for an average place). Obviously it depends where you want to live though, and how big a place. So what kind of percentage would this be in the biggest US cities?

                                      "For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza

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                                      Ashley van Gerven wrote:

                                      So what kind of percentage would this be in the biggest US cities?

                                      Not sure as I have never lived in one but I would guess more than a third. I know most developers with families from the Silicon Valley live outside the area and commute due to the housing costs. However I live in a small to medium size city. I own a medium sized house in a rural neighborhood and my mortgage is about 12% of my net income.

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                                        There is plenty of work, pay is good and the life style is awsome. We are having trouble finding enough skilled people to work here. Anyone want a job? :)

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                                        Josh Gray wrote:

                                        Anyone want a job?

                                        Anyone want MY job.... first in, best dressed.. or was that best of luck?? If you cant manage your money well enough to do something in your time off, that is your own fault I am earning about 5% below the average for my job (outback.. so about 30% less then if I was in a capital city), and i manage to afford to go touring Aus for all of my time off

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                                          Josh Gray wrote:

                                          Anyone want a job?

                                          Anyone want MY job.... first in, best dressed.. or was that best of luck?? If you cant manage your money well enough to do something in your time off, that is your own fault I am earning about 5% below the average for my job (outback.. so about 30% less then if I was in a capital city), and i manage to afford to go touring Aus for all of my time off

                                          "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown

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                                          Thunderbox666 wrote:

                                          Anyone want MY job.... first in, best dressed.. or was that best of luck?? If you cant manage your money well enough to do something in your time off, that is your own fault I am earning about 5% below the average for my job (outback.. so about 30% less then if I was in a capital city), and i manage to afford to go touring Aus for all of my time off

                                          :confused:

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