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    gidius Ahenobarbus
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    I have the odd pop at a pheasant at my neighbour's place. I hardly ever hit one so I don't feel that bad. Is shooting a good or a bad thing? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5387358.stm[^]

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      I have the odd pop at a pheasant at my neighbour's place. I hardly ever hit one so I don't feel that bad. Is shooting a good or a bad thing? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5387358.stm[^]

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      73Zeppelin
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      I take the occasional pop at people taking pops at pheasants. I hardly ever hit one so I don't feel that bad. I pay for my ammunition so I inject lots of money into local communities and hotels and pay for petrol etc. I also provide the added benefit of reducing population load in rural Britain thereby enhancing the habitat for wildlife. This creates more wildlife for hunters to shoot and less competition for the hunters. This enhances their overall hunting experience. Is this a good or a bad thing?

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        I have the odd pop at a pheasant at my neighbour's place. I hardly ever hit one so I don't feel that bad. Is shooting a good or a bad thing? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5387358.stm[^]

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        Ægidius Ahenobarbus wrote:

        Is shooting a good or a bad thing?

        I assume it is OK if you are keeping vermin down to managable numbers.

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          Ægidius Ahenobarbus wrote:

          Is shooting a good or a bad thing?

          I assume it is OK if you are keeping vermin down to managable numbers.

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          gidius Ahenobarbus
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          I was talking about sport shooting of especially bred pheasants.

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            I have the odd pop at a pheasant at my neighbour's place. I hardly ever hit one so I don't feel that bad. Is shooting a good or a bad thing? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5387358.stm[^]

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            Provided you eat what you kill it is no worse that eating meat bought at a supermarket.

            Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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              Provided you eat what you kill it is no worse that eating meat bought at a supermarket.

              Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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              Craster
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              Exactly. If I buy partridge, pigeon, or pheasant from the supermarket then it has come from a shoot farm.

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                I was talking about sport shooting of especially bred pheasants.

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                If for eating and with a clean a kill as possible then fine, else, I say to you as I would say to the Duke of Edinburgh "I don't shoot tigers!"

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                  I take the occasional pop at people taking pops at pheasants. I hardly ever hit one so I don't feel that bad. I pay for my ammunition so I inject lots of money into local communities and hotels and pay for petrol etc. I also provide the added benefit of reducing population load in rural Britain thereby enhancing the habitat for wildlife. This creates more wildlife for hunters to shoot and less competition for the hunters. This enhances their overall hunting experience. Is this a good or a bad thing?

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                  brianwelsch
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                  Surely your not comparing hunting birds with hunting people, that'd just be idiotic, so I must have missed something.

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                    Surely your not comparing hunting birds with hunting people, that'd just be idiotic, so I must have missed something.

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                    73Zeppelin
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                    brianwelsch wrote:

                    Surely your not comparing hunting birds with hunting people, that'd just be idiotic, so I must have missed something.

                    Yes, my dry sarcasm. :-D I was trying to point out the absurdity of his post as his article talks about the "economic benefits" of shooting (the same ones I parodied in my response) Unfortunately, the study in the article is strongly biased as it is funded/written by pro-shooting groups so the conclusions were (a priori) what they wanted to communicate.

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                      brianwelsch wrote:

                      Surely your not comparing hunting birds with hunting people, that'd just be idiotic, so I must have missed something.

                      Yes, my dry sarcasm. :-D I was trying to point out the absurdity of his post as his article talks about the "economic benefits" of shooting (the same ones I parodied in my response) Unfortunately, the study in the article is strongly biased as it is funded/written by pro-shooting groups so the conclusions were (a priori) what they wanted to communicate.

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                      brianwelsch
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                      :-O Man, I usually get that too. I swear someone mixed decaf beans in with the regular this morning.

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                      • G gidius Ahenobarbus

                        I have the odd pop at a pheasant at my neighbour's place. I hardly ever hit one so I don't feel that bad. Is shooting a good or a bad thing? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5387358.stm[^]

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                        KaRl
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                        It depends on what you shoot, and when.


                        We're the regulators that de-regulate We're the animators that de-animate

                        Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                          :-O Man, I usually get that too. I swear someone mixed decaf beans in with the regular this morning.

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                          73Zeppelin
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                          brianwelsch wrote:

                          Man, I usually get that too. I swear someone mixed decaf beans in with the regular this morning.

                          I have that problem too.

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                            brianwelsch wrote:

                            Surely your not comparing hunting birds with hunting people, that'd just be idiotic, so I must have missed something.

                            Yes, my dry sarcasm. :-D I was trying to point out the absurdity of his post as his article talks about the "economic benefits" of shooting (the same ones I parodied in my response) Unfortunately, the study in the article is strongly biased as it is funded/written by pro-shooting groups so the conclusions were (a priori) what they wanted to communicate.

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                            gidius Ahenobarbus
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                            What's worse, these scurroulous organisations employ independant bodies to do their research for them, hence adding false credance to ridiculous conclusions such as that spending hundreds of millions of pounds on nature conservation benefits the environment. Sickening. We should all listen to people like Thealj, who are clearly independant on the issue.

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                              It depends on what you shoot, and when.


                              We're the regulators that de-regulate We're the animators that de-animate

                              Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                              gidius Ahenobarbus
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                              I've been twice and shot one pheasant. It was at about 3.00 pm

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                                I've been twice and shot one pheasant. It was at about 3.00 pm

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                                KaRl
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                                Ægidius Ahenobarbus wrote:

                                It was at about 3.00 pm

                                I was rather refering to the period of the year, like the reproduction period for instance.


                                We're the regulators that de-regulate We're the animators that de-animate

                                Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                                  Ægidius Ahenobarbus wrote:

                                  It was at about 3.00 pm

                                  I was rather refering to the period of the year, like the reproduction period for instance.


                                  We're the regulators that de-regulate We're the animators that de-animate

                                  Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                                  gidius Ahenobarbus
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                                  Pheasant season is in the autumn (I was taking the mick about the 3.00 bit)

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                                    Pheasant season is in the autumn (I was taking the mick about the 3.00 bit)

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                                    KaRl
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                                    Ah, ok. So as long as you didn't use a fragmentation hand grenade or shoot close to habitations/people and if pheasants are not an endangered species, I have no problem with your shooting.


                                    We're the regulators that de-regulate We're the animators that de-animate

                                    Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                                      I have the odd pop at a pheasant at my neighbour's place. I hardly ever hit one so I don't feel that bad. Is shooting a good or a bad thing? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5387358.stm[^]

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                                      jith iii
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                                      Most of the people hunt, because of the lack of availability of other food:laugh: (I doubt so). Since the civilization has not been progressed much from that of stone ages,hunting for food is still there in some parts of the world.And they would always say strane theories of animal population control.But they are forgetting that these hunting crazy people would not leave even carnivoures like lion or tigers.So the natural population control system of the nature gets affected. For some others hunting is just for testing their shooting skills. Human beings are created for ruling the earth.So he can do anything.right?

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                                        Ah, ok. So as long as you didn't use a fragmentation hand grenade or shoot close to habitations/people and if pheasants are not an endangered species, I have no problem with your shooting.


                                        We're the regulators that de-regulate We're the animators that de-animate

                                        Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                                        DRHuff
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                                        K(arl) wrote:

                                        So as long as you didn't use a fragmentation hand grenade

                                        Those are for fishing!

                                        I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Dave

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                                        • G gidius Ahenobarbus

                                          I have the odd pop at a pheasant at my neighbour's place. I hardly ever hit one so I don't feel that bad. Is shooting a good or a bad thing? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5387358.stm[^]

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                                          Ægidius Ahenobarbus wrote:

                                          I have the odd pop at a pheasant at my neighbour's place

                                          Does he know? He might even be my cousin, they keep pheasants and organise shoots as a side business in your part of the world and their game keeper is not very accomidating to poachers :)

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