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    Joe Q
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    The Company I work for just achived CMMI level 5!!!! :-D We just completed the audit a few minutes ago, but we had worked for years to get to that point. I'm just so glad this audit is over and we don't have to be audited again for 3 years! What does this mean to our company...I'm told there was a business case for it. What that business case is I'm not sure. But the president of the company wanted it so we did it. I just wanted to share. Since it's about 1 pm here and the audit if finished, I think I'll go home early. Joe Q

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      The Company I work for just achived CMMI level 5!!!! :-D We just completed the audit a few minutes ago, but we had worked for years to get to that point. I'm just so glad this audit is over and we don't have to be audited again for 3 years! What does this mean to our company...I'm told there was a business case for it. What that business case is I'm not sure. But the president of the company wanted it so we did it. I just wanted to share. Since it's about 1 pm here and the audit if finished, I think I'll go home early. Joe Q

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      Smitha Nishant
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      Congrats!

      Joe Q wrote:

      What does this mean to our company...I'm told there was a business case for it.

      I think it tells prospective customers that you care for quality and that you are methodical :-) A lot of service companies in India go for certifications like this to market themselves better. Cheers Smitha

      Are you an aspiring author? Read how to submit articles to CodeProject: Article Submission Guidelines[^] More questions? Ask an editor here...

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        The Company I work for just achived CMMI level 5!!!! :-D We just completed the audit a few minutes ago, but we had worked for years to get to that point. I'm just so glad this audit is over and we don't have to be audited again for 3 years! What does this mean to our company...I'm told there was a business case for it. What that business case is I'm not sure. But the president of the company wanted it so we did it. I just wanted to share. Since it's about 1 pm here and the audit if finished, I think I'll go home early. Joe Q

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        Russell Morris
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        Joe Q wrote:

        What that business case is I'm not sure. But the president of the company wanted it so we did it.

        DoD work? They need all paper trails to have signed, notarized paper trails. It's easier to spend tons of cash that way, doncha know. :) My company's at CMM 3. Repeatability of process in a big IT organization is a Good Thing, but you lose a bit of efficiency and speed of implementation at the same time. Good always comes with a bit of bad, though.

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          Congrats!

          Joe Q wrote:

          What does this mean to our company...I'm told there was a business case for it.

          I think it tells prospective customers that you care for quality and that you are methodical :-) A lot of service companies in India go for certifications like this to market themselves better. Cheers Smitha

          Are you an aspiring author? Read how to submit articles to CodeProject: Article Submission Guidelines[^] More questions? Ask an editor here...

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          Christian Graus
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          Smitha Vijayan wrote:

          A lot of service companies in India go for certifications like this to market themselves better.

          An external quality certification, to me, mean 'we do a bad job, and it's not our fault'.

          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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            The Company I work for just achived CMMI level 5!!!! :-D We just completed the audit a few minutes ago, but we had worked for years to get to that point. I'm just so glad this audit is over and we don't have to be audited again for 3 years! What does this mean to our company...I'm told there was a business case for it. What that business case is I'm not sure. But the president of the company wanted it so we did it. I just wanted to share. Since it's about 1 pm here and the audit if finished, I think I'll go home early. Joe Q

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            Sreenath Madyastha
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            By the end of CMM you learn to go home early :). That is CMM!

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              The Company I work for just achived CMMI level 5!!!! :-D We just completed the audit a few minutes ago, but we had worked for years to get to that point. I'm just so glad this audit is over and we don't have to be audited again for 3 years! What does this mean to our company...I'm told there was a business case for it. What that business case is I'm not sure. But the president of the company wanted it so we did it. I just wanted to share. Since it's about 1 pm here and the audit if finished, I think I'll go home early. Joe Q

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              Jorgen Sigvardsson
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              So.. what's CMMI Level 5 good for? Something to impress the ladies with in the bar? ;)

              -- Verletzen zerfetzen zersetzen zerstören Doch es darf nicht mir gehören Ich muss zerstören

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                So.. what's CMMI Level 5 good for? Something to impress the ladies with in the bar? ;)

                -- Verletzen zerfetzen zersetzen zerstören Doch es darf nicht mir gehören Ich muss zerstören

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                Sreenath Madyastha
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                Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                Something to impress the ladies with in the bar

                I guess this is CMM 3. CMM 5 goes beyond that :)

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                  Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                  Something to impress the ladies with in the bar

                  I guess this is CMM 3. CMM 5 goes beyond that :)

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                  Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                  Is that when you become like Mel Gibson's character in What Women Want[^]? (Jewish women excluded... :rolleyes:)

                  -- Verletzen zerfetzen zersetzen zerstören Doch es darf nicht mir gehören Ich muss zerstören

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                  • J Joe Q

                    The Company I work for just achived CMMI level 5!!!! :-D We just completed the audit a few minutes ago, but we had worked for years to get to that point. I'm just so glad this audit is over and we don't have to be audited again for 3 years! What does this mean to our company...I'm told there was a business case for it. What that business case is I'm not sure. But the president of the company wanted it so we did it. I just wanted to share. Since it's about 1 pm here and the audit if finished, I think I'll go home early. Joe Q

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                    Shog9 0
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                    Nice. AFAIK, we've never done a formal evaluation, but based on a quick Google Code Search vanity search, it appears the code i'm writing now is still young at heart. :->

                    every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?

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                      Smitha Vijayan wrote:

                      A lot of service companies in India go for certifications like this to market themselves better.

                      An external quality certification, to me, mean 'we do a bad job, and it's not our fault'.

                      Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                      Nish Nishant
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                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      An external quality certification, to me, mean 'we do a bad job, and it's not our fault'.

                      CMM 5 is sorta different - once you reach 5, it means you are good enough to define your own quality standards.

                      Regards, Nish


                      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                      Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog

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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        An external quality certification, to me, mean 'we do a bad job, and it's not our fault'.

                        CMM 5 is sorta different - once you reach 5, it means you are good enough to define your own quality standards.

                        Regards, Nish


                        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                        Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog

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                        Christian Graus
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                        In other words, you're right back where you started ?

                        Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                          Nice. AFAIK, we've never done a formal evaluation, but based on a quick Google Code Search vanity search, it appears the code i'm writing now is still young at heart. :->

                          every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?

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                          Sreenath Madyastha
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                          There are several levels in the CMM. Once they acheive it, Client feels somewhat comfortable in dealing with those companies. Not to mention, there are cases, where companies lobbied evaluators to achieve CMM. All in the game!

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                            In other words, you're right back where you started ?

                            Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                            Nish Nishant
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                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            In other words, you're right back where you started ?

                            Yeah - except you now have CMM recognition :-) It's very similar to the Windows UI development. We had flat ugly UIs in Windows 3.1, that got improved in 98, and got really good in 2000. Then XP came out with cartoonish UIs, and now Vista gives us dreadful VB4-style UIs and everything's semi-transparent, so you can't read anything etc.

                            Regards, Nish


                            Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                            Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog

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                              The Company I work for just achived CMMI level 5!!!! :-D We just completed the audit a few minutes ago, but we had worked for years to get to that point. I'm just so glad this audit is over and we don't have to be audited again for 3 years! What does this mean to our company...I'm told there was a business case for it. What that business case is I'm not sure. But the president of the company wanted it so we did it. I just wanted to share. Since it's about 1 pm here and the audit if finished, I think I'll go home early. Joe Q

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                              KevinMac
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                              How long have you been working on the certification?

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                                There are several levels in the CMM. Once they acheive it, Client feels somewhat comfortable in dealing with those companies. Not to mention, there are cases, where companies lobbied evaluators to achieve CMM. All in the game!

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                                Shog9 0
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                                Yeah, i know. I'm sure it's a good warm fuzzy thing to claim if you're a consulting firm.

                                every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?

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                                  The Company I work for just achived CMMI level 5!!!! :-D We just completed the audit a few minutes ago, but we had worked for years to get to that point. I'm just so glad this audit is over and we don't have to be audited again for 3 years! What does this mean to our company...I'm told there was a business case for it. What that business case is I'm not sure. But the president of the company wanted it so we did it. I just wanted to share. Since it's about 1 pm here and the audit if finished, I think I'll go home early. Joe Q

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                                  Andy Brummer
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                                  So is that 5 pages of documentation for every line of code you write? :-D

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                                    Christian Graus wrote:

                                    In other words, you're right back where you started ?

                                    Yeah - except you now have CMM recognition :-) It's very similar to the Windows UI development. We had flat ugly UIs in Windows 3.1, that got improved in 98, and got really good in 2000. Then XP came out with cartoonish UIs, and now Vista gives us dreadful VB4-style UIs and everything's semi-transparent, so you can't read anything etc.

                                    Regards, Nish


                                    Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                    Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog

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                                    Joe Q
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                                    You define your standards within the context of the CMMI practices. And by following the model, you're suppose to be doing everything according what you say your doing, and you're trying to improve yourself.

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                                      Joe Q wrote:

                                      What that business case is I'm not sure. But the president of the company wanted it so we did it.

                                      DoD work? They need all paper trails to have signed, notarized paper trails. It's easier to spend tons of cash that way, doncha know. :) My company's at CMM 3. Repeatability of process in a big IT organization is a Good Thing, but you lose a bit of efficiency and speed of implementation at the same time. Good always comes with a bit of bad, though.

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                                      Russell Morris wrote:

                                      DoD work? They need all paper trails to have signed, notarized paper trails. It's easier to spend tons of cash that way, doncha know.

                                      Paper trails make the large impersonal corprate world go round.

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                                        By the end of CMM you learn to go home early :). That is CMM!

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                                        Joe Q
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                                        Sreenath Madyastha wrote:

                                        By the end of CMM you learn to go home early

                                        Well you don't want to hang around a place like this to long.

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                                          So.. what's CMMI Level 5 good for? Something to impress the ladies with in the bar? ;)

                                          -- Verletzen zerfetzen zersetzen zerstören Doch es darf nicht mir gehören Ich muss zerstören

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                                          Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                          So.. what's CMMI Level 5 good for? Something to impress the ladies with in the bar?

                                          Either to show off your LARGE CMMI level ;) to impress people or a check mark. It's suppose to help us to continually imporove.

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