I need coders for software for IP cameras!

Alleyes

Where can I find the right people and about how much should I be paying. How long would it take? Thank you for your response as I just found out that software guys that were supposed to do this for me just dont have the right stuff. NeedAdvice

Christian Graus

Alleyes wrote:

Where can I find the right people

All sorts of places - your newspaper, job sites, articles on IP cameras, to name a few.

Alleyes wrote:

how much should I be paying

That depends, really.

Alleyes wrote:

How long would it take?

That's a ridiculous question. You've not described the project, and contrary to populr belief, even saying 'I want a program that detects an IP camera and shows the result' is not a spec that you can expect a reasonably accurate quote on.

Alleyes wrote:

as I just found out that software guys that were supposed to do this for me just dont have the right stuff.

Sounds like you were on rentacoder or something ? That really only stands a chance of working if you are also a developer and know what questions to ask, and how to push a project. Even then, going for a cheap option rarely works IMO. If you had a RAC project, I'd guess that multiplying the price you were bid by between 50 and 100 ( that's real numbers, not percent ), will give you a 'real programmer' price. There's plenty of folks doing contract work on CP. I'm one, but I'm booked solid for the next two years, at least :-)

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Alleyes

Christian, So your saying that developing a good software could cost over 50 - 100k. Dam that is out of my budget........I wonder how many cool projects can't get done cause of blood sucking? Anyways thanks for your informative reply!:^)

Christian Graus

Alleyes wrote:

So your saying that developing a good software could cost over 50 - 100k.

No, I didn't say that. I don't even know what your software does.

Alleyes wrote:

I wonder how many cool projects can't get done cause of blood sucking?

Do you mean, how many pipe dreams can't become reality because of the reality of cost ?

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Dan Neely

That's 6 to 18mo full time for an experianced first world contractor. Potentially cheaper options would be a kid right out of college, but without experiance the lower hourly rate would be partially counterbalanced by more total hours, and you'd run the risk of him dropping the contract for a more stable fulltime position. Cheaper still would be hiring an outsourcing firm but then at a minimum you'd have to deal with different timezones and langauge barriors. Cheapest of all would be something like rentacoder, but you'd run a very high risk of wasting your money paying a total incompetant in doing so.

Alleyes

The project seems like it would take too long, from what I understand a buddy of mine did it in 2 weeks and of course over the next 6 months debugged it. I have a business I want to get going but timing wise it would have to be done in the next 3 months.....lets say maybe I will have to go back to growing......lol Thank you for your information as discouraging as it is......I thought that this would have been the place that something impossible like this would have been made possible .......thanks though!

led mike

Alleyes wrote:

blood sucking

So people that have spent a lifetime learning how to develop software and "get paid" for it is "blood sucking". Well you could always learn how and then do it yourself right, I wonder how long it would take and what it would cost you that way?

led mike

Alleyes

Learning is part of life ......alright I am a Civil Engineer and as such no little of software development except that C++ was my toughest course....but be it programming, doctor, blood sucking lawyers, engineers or what have you...we all work hard to get to were we are but that does not mean we need to make it just as hard or harder for the next guy....the simple thing is that maybe I need to forget about going after my dreams......at least for now:~

led mike

Civil engineer eh? So if i asked you to build me a bridge for 8k, that would take you a year of work to accomplish, and you told me that it would cost 100k to do that, it would be blood sucking?

led mike

David Crow

Alleyes wrote:

...maybe I will have to go back to growing...

So you are not full grown yet?

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Christian Graus

Alleyes wrote:

from what I understand a buddy of mine did it in 2 weeks and of course over the next 6 months debugged it

Sorry, I'd say this means he spent 2 weeks proving the basic concept and 6 months developing. Or, he should never write code again. No-one can spend 6 months debugging 2 weeks work.

Alleyes wrote:

I have a business I want to get going but timing wise it would have to be done in the next 3 months.....

That's a pity, you just said it would take 6 months to write :-)

Alleyes wrote:

I thought that this would have been the place that something impossible like this would have been made possible

If you have a really good idea, you can perhaps find an investor for it, a team of three would halve development time, for example.

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led mike

Christian Graus wrote:

No-one can spend 6 months debugging 2 weeks work.

Based on some of the folks we get here in the forums... I think that is totally possible. :-D

led mike

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Heck, i've done it, starting out on new work in old code. Nothing like believing the documentation for an interface rather than reading the code that implements it to get you into trouble...

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Dave Sexton

You said exactly what I was thinking Mike, bravo.

GaryWoodfine

I can't believe you actually came on here, ask a question as vague as the one you did, were planning a business venture on it, had a few replies and then binned your business venture, I can't see what your point was? Your question was basically I need a house built, how long will it take?

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Alleyes wrote:

a buddy of mine did it in 2 weeks and of course over the next 6 months debugged it

So it took him 6-1/2 months to finish the app. No wonder you're amazed at what real programmers would charge - you suck at even the most trivial math problems. "Blood sucking"? I call that earning a living.

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