Interesting Company Policies
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Having done IS9001 development this deserves a very out of date custard pie. Straight from a very cold fridge.
Trollslayer wrote:
this deserves a very out of date custard pie. Straight from a very cold fridge.
Perhaps lukewarm would work quite nicely too. You know, left out in the sun for a few days kind of warm :)
Ryan
"Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"
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I was just wondering what interesting company policies people had encountered at their work. (it's a slow afternoon here) For example, at one time the company I work for enacted a policy that said "all time shall be rounded to the 1/2 hour", personal time was to be rounded up and casual time was to be rounded down. What this meant was if you came in 45 minutes late, you recorded that as 1 hour late (personal time), and if you worked 45 min extra (casual time to make up for coming in late) you recorded it as 30 min casual time, so you still had to make up 30 min. Our ethics hotline was jammed with complaints about the policy and how it required us to mis-charge our time. The policy was quickly pulled. Joe Q
Larry Dalton, Directory of ICom-IT[^] Software, that not so subtly insisted you had to be a Baptist to be human, and that gays and women and muslims were evil. Fortunately I was none, but at least two of my colleagues were either of the latter two, and I just don't want to know what would have happened if anyone was gay.
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A company my wife worked for had (has?) the policy that you had to read your company email, but on your own time, and of course you couldn't read it from home, you had to be in the office, sitting at your desk, but you don't get paid to do it. I'm sure it didn't apply to anyone above peon.
You mean there was sombody above peon> FT, get a job with a small company. I tried the large one (again) earlier this year, and it sucked (again).
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A couple of good ones here...
- Apparently, you can only speak to the HR department on your own time.
- Speaking privately to one of the directors, instead of addresing concerns to your direct chain of command, is a sure-fire way to have your career turn to shit overnight - regardless of what the conversation was about.
- You are not allowed to wear headphones to listen to music. You are also not allowed to attach "unauthorized" (ie. personal) speakers to your computer. You are, however, permitted to bring a boombox and use that for listening to music. So, I hook this ugly-ass, oversized boombox to my computer (using one of those cassette tape adapters) and play my MP3's on it, for everyone to hear. :doh:
And yes, this is a government institution... :sigh:
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Speaking privately to one of the directors, instead of addresing concerns to your direct chain of command, is a sure-fire way to have your career turn to sh*t overnight - regardless of what the conversation was about.
At the little society I mentioned previously, someone mentioned to the company owner that no overtime was paid, so suddenly the little man that worked for him cut even paid overtime.
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Larry Dalton, Directory of ICom-IT[^] Software, that not so subtly insisted you had to be a Baptist to be human, and that gays and women and muslims were evil. Fortunately I was none, but at least two of my colleagues were either of the latter two, and I just don't want to know what would have happened if anyone was gay.
What about my one boss that sold me a stolen car, that didn't work, then complained when it made me late and insisted that if I was fired for being late again, I give the car back? I did give the car back anyway after avoiding being fired for that reason, and was screwed over with the R9k I had already paid my CIO for a stolen car! I forgot to mention that this guy wasn't the little bigoted boss of a little start-up, he was tne CIO of one of SA's biggest four banks.
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Having done IS9001 development this deserves a very out of date custard pie. Straight from a very cold fridge.
Trollslayer wrote:
Having done IS9001 development this deserves a very out of date custard pie. Straight from a very cold fridge.
...and preferably followed up by the emptying of a jug of iced water (with ice cubes, naturally) over the head of the offender. ;P
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A company my wife worked for had (has?) the policy that you had to read your company email, but on your own time, and of course you couldn't read it from home, you had to be in the office, sitting at your desk, but you don't get paid to do it. I'm sure it didn't apply to anyone above peon.
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Joe Q wrote:
company ethics coordinator
??? really, your time policies are your worst problems...
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Linkify!|Fold With Us!Probably not the worst, but the scrutinized and reviewed item. They get hard data on whether you're there are not (we have to badge in and out), it's something they can look at and have hard evidence. They just wanted to get more work and pay us less...bottom line.
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We had an appraisal system at one place where you had to put in: 3 things the employee should start doing 3 things the employee should keep doing 3 things the employee should stop doing I.e. - three negative actions were required! Being ever so slightly stubborn I only put third category items in if they were justified. Elaine (slightly compliant fluffy tigress)
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Over 15 and that policy is against federal law. Pre correction : U.S. Federal Law
On two occasions I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. - Charles Babbage
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I was just wondering what interesting company policies people had encountered at their work. (it's a slow afternoon here) For example, at one time the company I work for enacted a policy that said "all time shall be rounded to the 1/2 hour", personal time was to be rounded up and casual time was to be rounded down. What this meant was if you came in 45 minutes late, you recorded that as 1 hour late (personal time), and if you worked 45 min extra (casual time to make up for coming in late) you recorded it as 30 min casual time, so you still had to make up 30 min. Our ethics hotline was jammed with complaints about the policy and how it required us to mis-charge our time. The policy was quickly pulled. Joe Q
We got a new Corporate Policy Manual where I work, and here's part of the email I sent to the boss, objecting to two specific clauses in the manual. Under "Concealed Weapons Policy": "Company does not allow any ... employee ... to possess, use, conceal, carry or maintain a concealed weapon or handgun [in any area] used in connection with Company business". If we go by *the letter* of that restriction, that means we can't have weapons at home in the event that we need to work from home. I have firearms at home (and I've worked on Company stuff at home), but I'm not ready to give up my 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms, and I'm positive that nobody (even the Company) can legally infringe that right. Working from a private home should be added as an exception to that section. Common sense may dictate to some that a private home doesn't fall under this clause, but I think you have to write it down. --------------------------------------------------- Under "Search, Inspection, and Investigation Policy": I agree that the "expectation of privacy" stops at the front door to company offices. But a person that has taken normal precautions to maintain his privacy, that is, precautions customarily taken by those seeking to exclude others, is usually a significant factor in determining legitimacy of expectation. In other words, I have an expectation of privacy where my car is concerned because it's locked, and I am the exclusive key holder. If an item is not laying in plain sight, the inspecting party has no probable cause to conduct a search. Finally, since access to the Company parking lot is not controlled (anyone can pull in and park there, as opposed to a site such as a military or a controlled access facility), and since the parking lot is shared with other businesses, the legitimacy of a search of privately owned vehicles by Company officials is further diluted. As such, it could be proven that this policy infringes my 4th Amendment rights.
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
We got a new Corporate Policy Manual where I work, and here's part of the email I sent to the boss, objecting to two specific clauses in the manual. Under "Concealed Weapons Policy": "Company does not allow any ... employee ... to possess, use, conceal, carry or maintain a concealed weapon or handgun [in any area] used in connection with Company business". If we go by *the letter* of that restriction, that means we can't have weapons at home in the event that we need to work from home. I have firearms at home (and I've worked on Company stuff at home), but I'm not ready to give up my 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms, and I'm positive that nobody (even the Company) can legally infringe that right. Working from a private home should be added as an exception to that section. Common sense may dictate to some that a private home doesn't fall under this clause, but I think you have to write it down. --------------------------------------------------- Under "Search, Inspection, and Investigation Policy": I agree that the "expectation of privacy" stops at the front door to company offices. But a person that has taken normal precautions to maintain his privacy, that is, precautions customarily taken by those seeking to exclude others, is usually a significant factor in determining legitimacy of expectation. In other words, I have an expectation of privacy where my car is concerned because it's locked, and I am the exclusive key holder. If an item is not laying in plain sight, the inspecting party has no probable cause to conduct a search. Finally, since access to the Company parking lot is not controlled (anyone can pull in and park there, as opposed to a site such as a military or a controlled access facility), and since the parking lot is shared with other businesses, the legitimacy of a search of privately owned vehicles by Company officials is further diluted. As such, it could be proven that this policy infringes my 4th Amendment rights.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001We have policies written like that too. Sometimes, they seem to be written as if this (the company) is the only place we ever go and that we are property of the company. My boss has said you’re supposed to use common sense when applying these policies. I asked if the company, when applying these policies, would use common sense. He just laughed. Then I pointed out two examples in the past 4 years that were let go due to the application to the letter of policies. In reality, the people were walked out because HR and their bosses were tired of dealing with them. But it shows that common sense is not necessarily applied. Our HR has said the policies have to be written that way for the protection of the company. I asked about the individual and they said they don’t really deal with people; they deal with policies dealing with people. I suggested they change their name to IR (Inhuman Resources). The HR rep didn’t laugh…but I did!
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It's interesting that HR, upper management, and even the ethics office reviewed it and saw nothing wrong with it.
Not really. If that was the case only unethical companies would face lawsuits.
On two occasions I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. - Charles Babbage
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Probably not the worst, but the scrutinized and reviewed item. They get hard data on whether you're there are not (we have to badge in and out), it's something they can look at and have hard evidence. They just wanted to get more work and pay us less...bottom line.
I meant to write "are not your worst problems" :doh: I'm on "no pay, no comp for extra hours". :sigh:
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