Strange, strange problem?!
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I have been being annoyed by a strange problem I got with my computer. It has the following symptoms: (1) Sometime but not every time, when I open a folder window, e.g., when I click "my computer" folder, it will refresh every icons on the desktop automatically and VERY slowly. (2) The machine works much slower than it should be. (3) The anti-virus programs cannot detect any bugs related to this behavor, that is, I tried the anti-virus programs to scan the computer and no bug was found. (4) Internet explorer always seems like freeze for several minutes before it gets the first web pages everytime it is launched. It's really annoying. Is this a real bug? Anybody also has the same problem? Any idea on how it can be solved? THanks.
What virus scanning program are you using? At work, Command Antivirus was mandated a while back, and it caused serious slowdowns on almost all machines. The trick was, if you turn off active protection most things speed back up again._**
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As Dan said ots time for reinstall your windows,But I think forat/install always better than reinstall. :) Mazy "The path you tread is narrow and the drop is shear and very high, The ravens all are watching from a vantage point near by, Apprehension creeping like a choo-train uo your spine, Will the tightrope reach the end;will the final cuplet rhyme?"Cymbaline-Pink Floyd
Mazdak wrote: But I think forat/install always better than reinstall Of course - I always format my C: drive before reinstalling Winblows. :-) I just forgot to mention it. That's why I made a 2.5Gb partition solely for windoze, so I can format it every time windows get slow and full of bugs (every two months :-) ) :-) - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
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I have been being annoyed by a strange problem I got with my computer. It has the following symptoms: (1) Sometime but not every time, when I open a folder window, e.g., when I click "my computer" folder, it will refresh every icons on the desktop automatically and VERY slowly. (2) The machine works much slower than it should be. (3) The anti-virus programs cannot detect any bugs related to this behavor, that is, I tried the anti-virus programs to scan the computer and no bug was found. (4) Internet explorer always seems like freeze for several minutes before it gets the first web pages everytime it is launched. It's really annoying. Is this a real bug? Anybody also has the same problem? Any idea on how it can be solved? THanks.
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Defrag your filesystems. This should also defrag your pagefile, and should as least help performance. Windows relies on swap so much that fragmentation on your pagefile will slow it down regardless of the amount of RAM you have. You may have to defrag a couple times to really get it "clean". Also, check to make sure you have enough space allocated to swap (at least ~111% of the amount of RAM you have installed). If you don't have enough, you will have a slow machine. Also, if you have too much, you'll have a slow machine. This is probably one of the reasons for your icon problem too. Your icon cache is fragmented. Defrag! Defrag! Defrag! :)
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Your anti-virus software is probably using the filesystem to read the files; hence, when it gets them the files appear correct (contiguous).
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More times than not, this is due a corrupt TCP/IP stack. Depending on the version of Windows you are using (W2K, XP) you may not be able to reinstall this and have to reinstall Windows anyway. Otherwise, you might be able to get by with removing and adding TCP/IP again. On a side note, if you ever cross a version of the TCP/IP stack with the wrong version of Windows you have to reinstall Windows to fix it. I found that one out from MS support after banging my head against a wall many times when doing tech support.
Jeremy L. Falcon "The One Who Said, 'The One Who Said...'" Homepage : Feature Article : Sonork = 100.16311
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I have been being annoyed by a strange problem I got with my computer. It has the following symptoms: (1) Sometime but not every time, when I open a folder window, e.g., when I click "my computer" folder, it will refresh every icons on the desktop automatically and VERY slowly. (2) The machine works much slower than it should be. (3) The anti-virus programs cannot detect any bugs related to this behavor, that is, I tried the anti-virus programs to scan the computer and no bug was found. (4) Internet explorer always seems like freeze for several minutes before it gets the first web pages everytime it is launched. It's really annoying. Is this a real bug? Anybody also has the same problem? Any idea on how it can be solved? THanks.
yellowine wrote: It's really annoying. Is this a real bug? Anybody also has the same problem? Any idea on how it can be solved? This is a well-documented scientific phenomenon known as "Entropy". Entropy is like chaos, and a Windows system, if left unchecked, will slowly, gradually, increase in entropy. This happens rather quickly in Windows 95 and ME, at a moderate pace in Windows NT and 98, and more slowly in 2000 and XP. If the entropy gets so high that it starts causing the effects you describe, the only way out is to start fresh. You must reformat your drive and reinstall a fresh Windows. This is a temporary solution though, because eventually entropy will increase on that system as well. :-D recursive adj. See RECURSIVE.
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Mazdak wrote: But I think forat/install always better than reinstall Of course - I always format my C: drive before reinstalling Winblows. :-) I just forgot to mention it. That's why I made a 2.5Gb partition solely for windoze, so I can format it every time windows get slow and full of bugs (every two months :-) ) :-) - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
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yellowine wrote: It's really annoying. Is this a real bug? Anybody also has the same problem? Any idea on how it can be solved? This is a well-documented scientific phenomenon known as "Entropy". Entropy is like chaos, and a Windows system, if left unchecked, will slowly, gradually, increase in entropy. This happens rather quickly in Windows 95 and ME, at a moderate pace in Windows NT and 98, and more slowly in 2000 and XP. If the entropy gets so high that it starts causing the effects you describe, the only way out is to start fresh. You must reformat your drive and reinstall a fresh Windows. This is a temporary solution though, because eventually entropy will increase on that system as well. :-D recursive adj. See RECURSIVE.
Navin wrote: because eventually entropy will increase on that system as well. That's sad but true - I install windows every 2 months :-) - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
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yellowine wrote: It's really annoying. Is this a real bug? Anybody also has the same problem? Any idea on how it can be solved? This is a well-documented scientific phenomenon known as "Entropy". Entropy is like chaos, and a Windows system, if left unchecked, will slowly, gradually, increase in entropy. This happens rather quickly in Windows 95 and ME, at a moderate pace in Windows NT and 98, and more slowly in 2000 and XP. If the entropy gets so high that it starts causing the effects you describe, the only way out is to start fresh. You must reformat your drive and reinstall a fresh Windows. This is a temporary solution though, because eventually entropy will increase on that system as well. :-D recursive adj. See RECURSIVE.
Just wait until MS figures out a way to get around this and keeps the previous entropy going after a fresh install. Then, what if all the OEMs team up with MS and every new computer you buy uses your previous entropy as a start? Hmm... :omg: Jeremy L. Falcon "The One Who Said, 'The One Who Said...'" Homepage : Feature Article : Sonork = 100.16311
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Defrag your filesystems. This should also defrag your pagefile, and should as least help performance. Windows relies on swap so much that fragmentation on your pagefile will slow it down regardless of the amount of RAM you have. You may have to defrag a couple times to really get it "clean". Also, check to make sure you have enough space allocated to swap (at least ~111% of the amount of RAM you have installed). If you don't have enough, you will have a slow machine. Also, if you have too much, you'll have a slow machine. This is probably one of the reasons for your icon problem too. Your icon cache is fragmented. Defrag! Defrag! Defrag! :)
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Your anti-virus software is probably using the filesystem to read the files; hence, when it gets them the files appear correct (contiguous).
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More times than not, this is due a corrupt TCP/IP stack. Depending on the version of Windows you are using (W2K, XP) you may not be able to reinstall this and have to reinstall Windows anyway. Otherwise, you might be able to get by with removing and adding TCP/IP again. On a side note, if you ever cross a version of the TCP/IP stack with the wrong version of Windows you have to reinstall Windows to fix it. I found that one out from MS support after banging my head against a wall many times when doing tech support.
Jeremy L. Falcon "The One Who Said, 'The One Who Said...'" Homepage : Feature Article : Sonork = 100.16311
Jeremy Falcon wrote: You may have to defrag a couple times to really get it "clean". Don't want to start a fight, But are you sure about that ? "I worked on a defrag app once, and a single defrag could not be bettered, Unless your algorithm is crud of course. :confused: Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: You may have to defrag a couple times to really get it "clean". Don't want to start a fight, But are you sure about that ? "I worked on a defrag app once, and a single defrag could not be bettered, Unless your algorithm is crud of course. :confused: Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
Multiple difragging is like zipping a zipped file - it's useless! One defragment should do fine. The problem is that usually the drive which Windows is installed on keeps being written to as you defrag, so it starts over a few times till it's done. It happens only to my C: partition, other partitions work fine. Isaac Sasson, Lean, mean posting machine! Sonork ID 100.13704
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: You may have to defrag a couple times to really get it "clean". Don't want to start a fight, But are you sure about that ? "I worked on a defrag app once, and a single defrag could not be bettered, Unless your algorithm is crud of course. :confused: Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
****Colin Davies wrote: But are you sure about that? I'm just going off of my experiences with using the defrag in 9x. It seems for some reason or another it doesn't like to finish. If you can get past ten percent you're okay though. So, I just said a couple of times to avoid the possibility of thinking it's defraged when not. Too long in tech support I guess. :( ****Colin Davies wrote: Don't want to start a fight, What the
bleepare youbleeping talking about? Ableeping fight forbleeping talking aboutbleeping defrag? Ohbleeping geeze al-bleeping-ready. :-D I hope I don't seem mean or something. :(( Jeremy L. Falcon "The One Who Said, 'The One Who Said...'" Homepage : Feature Article : Sonork = 100.16311 -
****Colin Davies wrote: But are you sure about that? I'm just going off of my experiences with using the defrag in 9x. It seems for some reason or another it doesn't like to finish. If you can get past ten percent you're okay though. So, I just said a couple of times to avoid the possibility of thinking it's defraged when not. Too long in tech support I guess. :( ****Colin Davies wrote: Don't want to start a fight, What the
bleepare youbleeping talking about? Ableeping fight forbleeping talking aboutbleeping defrag? Ohbleeping geeze al-bleeping-ready. :-D I hope I don't seem mean or something. :(( Jeremy L. Falcon "The One Who Said, 'The One Who Said...'" Homepage : Feature Article : Sonork = 100.16311Yeah, I think with Windows the first 10% is scanning and setting up before the real defrag takes place. If in that time a process like a screensaver or network-connection writes to the disk the process is broken. Windows shouldn't allow other processes to interrupt the "defrag" but as we know it does :-(. Really defragging is just a sophisticated sorting of the storage errors. So its guts is a sort routine. And if something is sorted once correctly it can't be better sorted. {In theory } However I wonder with larger HDs now whether defragging does something more. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
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****Colin Davies wrote: But are you sure about that? I'm just going off of my experiences with using the defrag in 9x. It seems for some reason or another it doesn't like to finish. If you can get past ten percent you're okay though. So, I just said a couple of times to avoid the possibility of thinking it's defraged when not. Too long in tech support I guess. :( ****Colin Davies wrote: Don't want to start a fight, What the
bleepare youbleeping talking about? Ableeping fight forbleeping talking aboutbleeping defrag? Ohbleeping geeze al-bleeping-ready. :-D I hope I don't seem mean or something. :(( Jeremy L. Falcon "The One Who Said, 'The One Who Said...'" Homepage : Feature Article : Sonork = 100.16311Oh I forgot ! Jeremy Falcon wrote: What the bleep are you bleeping talking about? A bleeping fight for bleeping talking about bleeping defrag? Oh bleeping geeze al-bleeping-ready. BLEEP Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
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Dan Pomerchik wrote: That's why I made a 2.5Gb partition solely for windoze 2.5? I'm running win2k, and i can't have anything less then 4 (including pagefile).
2.5 is enough for my Win98 :-) I also have a partition for Win2k , and it's even smaller. (I use Win2k for ASP programming) I'm planning to install WinXP too :-) So I'll have 4 operation systems - 3 Windowses and Linux. :-) - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"