Visual Studio 2005 SP1
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This really sucks. 1. The update is 430 Mb - makes you wonder what the hack is working, if they need a service pack this big. 2. Started it on Vista and Visual Studio 2005 Team Edition, it takes like an hour between firing it up and getting the first dialog box!!! This is because Vista is checking signatures as User Account Control is enabled. Didn't even start the installation. So I canceled it. 3. Went back to Windows XP and VS 2005 Team Edition, started installation - going on for like 3 hours...rarely getting any dialog feedback, just "Preparing the installation" for hours..."Updating the MS Office Tools" and such...then canceled the installation, can not really lose half a day on this. Never quite understood if there are so many changes to it, why can't I have the installation of VS 2005 Release January 2007 in my MSDN subscription, as the whole VS installation is much faster then this tormenting process. Pathetic.
Sarajevo, Bosnia
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This really sucks. 1. The update is 430 Mb - makes you wonder what the hack is working, if they need a service pack this big. 2. Started it on Vista and Visual Studio 2005 Team Edition, it takes like an hour between firing it up and getting the first dialog box!!! This is because Vista is checking signatures as User Account Control is enabled. Didn't even start the installation. So I canceled it. 3. Went back to Windows XP and VS 2005 Team Edition, started installation - going on for like 3 hours...rarely getting any dialog feedback, just "Preparing the installation" for hours..."Updating the MS Office Tools" and such...then canceled the installation, can not really lose half a day on this. Never quite understood if there are so many changes to it, why can't I have the installation of VS 2005 Release January 2007 in my MSDN subscription, as the whole VS installation is much faster then this tormenting process. Pathetic.
Sarajevo, Bosnia
Your experience seems similar to my boss's attempt a couple of weeks ago! Prior to him another colleague installed it and his was lucky enough to go smoothly, i.e., it took about 40 minutes. I was recently given a replacement PC and so I had to install all our apps. again. Then I thought I might as well get all the pain out of the way at the start, so I applied VS 2003 and VS 2005 SP1. But prior to the latter I had come across Scott Guthrie's blog - describes issues with the install and provides tips on how to speed up the install. http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2007/01/01/a-few-vs-2005-sp1-links-and-information-nuggets.aspx[^] The main tip is to run it in silent mode from a DOS prompt. VS80sp1-KB926601-X86-ENU.exe /quiet. It took me about a half hour during work lunch time. However, I'm not sure what would have happened had it gone wrong during silent mode. Presumably it would have created a log somewhere.
Kevin
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Your experience seems similar to my boss's attempt a couple of weeks ago! Prior to him another colleague installed it and his was lucky enough to go smoothly, i.e., it took about 40 minutes. I was recently given a replacement PC and so I had to install all our apps. again. Then I thought I might as well get all the pain out of the way at the start, so I applied VS 2003 and VS 2005 SP1. But prior to the latter I had come across Scott Guthrie's blog - describes issues with the install and provides tips on how to speed up the install. http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2007/01/01/a-few-vs-2005-sp1-links-and-information-nuggets.aspx[^] The main tip is to run it in silent mode from a DOS prompt. VS80sp1-KB926601-X86-ENU.exe /quiet. It took me about a half hour during work lunch time. However, I'm not sure what would have happened had it gone wrong during silent mode. Presumably it would have created a log somewhere.
Kevin
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Thanks man. I will give it a try tomorrow, as I am too pissed off right now to even look at it. :mad:
Sarajevo, Bosnia
Mirano, I think Microsoft software installs in general are pretty poor in installation time. (Compare, e.g., IE 7 with Firefox 2 or Opera 9) But it's even worse when the SPs take longer than the original products. VS 2003 SP1 is slow (and big) as well, but not as slow as VS 2005. The other thing is that feedback is so poor, such that you can't tell whether a particular bit has just hung or is just being slow. For VS 2003 I got the Windows Installer dialog sitting there for ages (about 15 minutes) doing nothing. And then it popped up another dialog asking me if I wanted to install SP1! :mad: Well yeah! I think VS 2005 SP1 behaves in the same way doesn't it? Some time soon I've been told to install SQL Server 2005 SP2 CTP and I'm not looking forward to it! We'll probably use a virtual machine though.
Kevin
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Mirano, I think Microsoft software installs in general are pretty poor in installation time. (Compare, e.g., IE 7 with Firefox 2 or Opera 9) But it's even worse when the SPs take longer than the original products. VS 2003 SP1 is slow (and big) as well, but not as slow as VS 2005. The other thing is that feedback is so poor, such that you can't tell whether a particular bit has just hung or is just being slow. For VS 2003 I got the Windows Installer dialog sitting there for ages (about 15 minutes) doing nothing. And then it popped up another dialog asking me if I wanted to install SP1! :mad: Well yeah! I think VS 2005 SP1 behaves in the same way doesn't it? Some time soon I've been told to install SQL Server 2005 SP2 CTP and I'm not looking forward to it! We'll probably use a virtual machine though.
Kevin
Yes, I fully agree. I wouldn't install any of those CTP versions, just those that I am really forced to, to save myself more trouble afterwards, but in general I can really not lose this much time for a simple installation or update. Anyways, maybe that one is not the worse. I see colleagues using C++ are struggling to get bitmaps into the menus....and this is year 2007...or crapload of articles like "How do I make my static control transparent in Visual C++", like it is a science, or God forbid somebody includes it as a design time property option...so I guess its okay, as long as there are people suffering even more. :) Cheers.