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  • R RoswellNX

    Captain See Sharp wrote:

    Sure why not. 209.251.20.183 I dare you to hack me.

    If you are looking for some real vandalism, post it at one of the Craigslist forums or at MySpace... But if you ask me, i'd rather pass. Think about it, why would someone want to risk their entire career? I personally, as a web dev can spot security risks in web applications, and see signs of poor workmanship admin's side if i'm working on a machine "in person", but all i do is report it to them. Grow up. *cough* Captain *cough* Roswell:rose:

    "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
    Antonio VillaRaigosa
    City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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    Bradml
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    What he is asking me to do is more or less childs play. He has given me an IP to an XP box that is manged by... well him. The only thing is it is illegal and also a waist of my time. Perhaps it would humble him a bit though.


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      What he is asking me to do is more or less childs play. He has given me an IP to an XP box that is manged by... well him. The only thing is it is illegal and also a waist of my time. Perhaps it would humble him a bit though.


      Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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      Lost User
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      Bradml wrote:

      Perhaps it would humble him a bit though.

      We will see.

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      • L Lost User

        Bradml wrote:

        Well it does look like you are quite open at the moment.

        Bradml wrote:

        Ok tell you what, wait for me to get home and then I will see what happens.

        Ok, lets see something happen.

        Bradml wrote:

        BTW you didn't answer my question, how is the Cogent network suiting you?

        I wikied Cognet because I didn't know what you were talking about. I don't use that ISP, I don't know how you came to that conclusion.

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        Bradml
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        Captain See Sharp wrote:

        I wikied Cognet because I didn't know what you were talking about. I don't use that ISP, I don't know how you came to that conclusion.

        No you use SISCOM, but from what I can remember they operate over the Cognet backbone. I have heard good things about Cognet and was wondering what you experience with the network was.


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        • E El Corazon

          Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

          I still don't understand how details like someone's name, address, and date of birth are still used as a way to validate a person

          Why should it change? What physical reason, beyond the physical and financial discomfort of the identity theft victims? What percentage of the population are they? 1%? 3%? it doesn't really matter. It is small enough they have no voting majority to "force" change. The banks and other companies do have the money and influence to make sure that they get the least part of the responsibility, they do have the voting majority through political influence. Therefore there is no reason to change, no push to change, no desire to change. For a time there were some people here even claiming that there were no identity theft victims, that it was all a myth. Which only assists in keeping the status quo, therefore there is no reason to change. And why should the banks change identity information when the primary method of identification for the entire USA is name? I don't want to sound to pessimistic, but in this instance I am. As in physics without a force that pushes an object, inertial resistance means there is no change. There is political resistance to change, the responsibility lies with those without power, therefore there is no force for change.

          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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          Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

          even claiming that there were no identity theft victims, that it was all a myth

          I think its just a buzz word. What I described above could equally be described as fraud and thats what it would have been called 10 or even 5 years ago

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          • B Bradml

            What he is asking me to do is more or less childs play. He has given me an IP to an XP box that is manged by... well him. The only thing is it is illegal and also a waist of my time. Perhaps it would humble him a bit though.


            Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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            Bradml wrote:

            Perhaps it would humble him a bit though

            Why bother? time will do that for him and he'll learn more from the bruses

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            • B Bradml

              Captain See Sharp wrote:

              I wikied Cognet because I didn't know what you were talking about. I don't use that ISP, I don't know how you came to that conclusion.

              No you use SISCOM, but from what I can remember they operate over the Cognet backbone. I have heard good things about Cognet and was wondering what you experience with the network was.


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              Bradml wrote:

              No you use SISCOM, but from what I can remember they operate over the Cognet backbone. I have heard good things about Cognet and was wondering what you experience with the network was.

              Its average, sometimes I get slow connections.

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              • B Bradml

                What he is asking me to do is more or less childs play. He has given me an IP to an XP box that is manged by... well him. The only thing is it is illegal and also a waist of my time. Perhaps it would humble him a bit though.


                Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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                Lost User
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                Nice try, LOL! 152.33.186.47 Port 30586

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                  Nice try, LOL! 152.33.186.47 Port 30586

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                  Bradml
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                  Why don't you try pinging that IP then? Have you ever heard of packet forging? Anyway I don't have time right now for this. I have a meeting at 4:00pm across town. I'll decide what I'm going to do with your IP later on.


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                  • B Bradml

                    Why don't you try pinging that IP then? Have you ever heard of packet forging? Anyway I don't have time right now for this. I have a meeting at 4:00pm across town. I'll decide what I'm going to do with your IP later on.


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                    Bradml wrote:

                    Why don't you try pinging that IP then? Have you ever heard of packet forging?

                    Yes and yes.

                    Bradml wrote:

                    Anyway I don't have time right now for this.

                    Looks like super hacker lost, now its time to change my IP address so that it will stay that way.

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                    • L Lost User

                      Bradml wrote:

                      Why don't you try pinging that IP then? Have you ever heard of packet forging?

                      Yes and yes.

                      Bradml wrote:

                      Anyway I don't have time right now for this.

                      Looks like super hacker lost, now its time to change my IP address so that it will stay that way.

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                      Bradml
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                      I fail to see how super hacker lost. I managed to locate you without giving away my position. I simply have a job you see.... If you would care to re-post your IP later I would be happy to show you what I can do (not that it would be hard to find you, I know your network info and your netBios info (how can you let such a fundamental security flaw go unchecked) so It would take me a very short time to find you again.


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                      • L Lost User

                        Bradml wrote:

                        Why don't you try pinging that IP then? Have you ever heard of packet forging?

                        Yes and yes.

                        Bradml wrote:

                        Anyway I don't have time right now for this.

                        Looks like super hacker lost, now its time to change my IP address so that it will stay that way.

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                        RoswellNX
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                        Captain See Sharp wrote:

                        Looks like super hacker lost

                        Look there, in the world outside of TV and newspapers and silly kids, "hacker" means coder, not the person that vandalizes computer equipment. The word "cracker" defines the latter. So it's no surprise that a coder won't want to vandalize a computer. So get a life, buy a dictionary. Roswell

                        "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
                        Antonio VillaRaigosa
                        City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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                          I fail to see how super hacker lost. I managed to locate you without giving away my position. I simply have a job you see.... If you would care to re-post your IP later I would be happy to show you what I can do (not that it would be hard to find you, I know your network info and your netBios info (how can you let such a fundamental security flaw go unchecked) so It would take me a very short time to find you again.


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                          RoswellNX
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                          Bradml wrote:

                          network info and your netBios info

                          :omg: That does it for me...no point in taking Mr. CSS seriously Roswell

                          "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
                          Antonio VillaRaigosa
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                          • R RoswellNX

                            Captain See Sharp wrote:

                            Looks like super hacker lost

                            Look there, in the world outside of TV and newspapers and silly kids, "hacker" means coder, not the person that vandalizes computer equipment. The word "cracker" defines the latter. So it's no surprise that a coder won't want to vandalize a computer. So get a life, buy a dictionary. Roswell

                            "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
                            Antonio VillaRaigosa
                            City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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                            Lost User
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                            RoswellNX wrote:

                            Look there, in the world outside of TV and newspapers and silly kids, "hacker" means coder, not the person that vandalizes computer equipment. The word "cracker" defines the latter. So it's no surprise that a coder won't want to vandalize a computer. So get a life, buy a dictionary.

                            A hacker is someone who breaks into a computer system over a network. A cracker is someone who breaks into programs and removes the trial limitation or enables cheating in a game that would otherwise be impossible. Bradml said he could break into a computer and enable the webcam if one is attached to the computer and stream the video and post it on youtube.

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                              RoswellNX wrote:

                              Look there, in the world outside of TV and newspapers and silly kids, "hacker" means coder, not the person that vandalizes computer equipment. The word "cracker" defines the latter. So it's no surprise that a coder won't want to vandalize a computer. So get a life, buy a dictionary.

                              A hacker is someone who breaks into a computer system over a network. A cracker is someone who breaks into programs and removes the trial limitation or enables cheating in a game that would otherwise be impossible. Bradml said he could break into a computer and enable the webcam if one is attached to the computer and stream the video and post it on youtube.

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                              Captain See Sharp wrote:

                              A hacker is someone who breaks into a computer system over a network. A cracker is someone who breaks into programs and removes the trial limitation or enables cheating in a game that would otherwise be impossible

                              Looks like this industry is now old enough to have a generation gap

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                                Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                                even claiming that there were no identity theft victims, that it was all a myth

                                I think its just a buzz word. What I described above could equally be described as fraud and thats what it would have been called 10 or even 5 years ago

                                System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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                                El Corazon
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                                true, but fraud used to be followed, not limited only to those above $10,000. But now with this "semi-new" type of fraud, it is common enough that it would be impossible to persue all persons who took less than $10,000... so the new way is to limit it only to the top most criminals in fraud, and let the people frauded pay for the rest.

                                _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                  I fail to see how super hacker lost. I managed to locate you without giving away my position. I simply have a job you see.... If you would care to re-post your IP later I would be happy to show you what I can do (not that it would be hard to find you, I know your network info and your netBios info (how can you let such a fundamental security flaw go unchecked) so It would take me a very short time to find you again.


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                                  Bradml wrote:

                                  I know your network info and your netBios info (how can you let such a fundamental security flaw go unchecked)

                                  I doubt it, lets see this information, all of it. Having my computer's name is not enough.

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                                  • E El Corazon

                                    true, but fraud used to be followed, not limited only to those above $10,000. But now with this "semi-new" type of fraud, it is common enough that it would be impossible to persue all persons who took less than $10,000... so the new way is to limit it only to the top most criminals in fraud, and let the people frauded pay for the rest.

                                    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                    Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                                    it is common enough that it would be impossible to persue all persons who took less than $10,000.

                                    The problem in our case is that the losses are distributed. Couple of $1000 here and there but from different organisations

                                    Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                                    and let the people frauded pay for the rest

                                    In our case we were not responsible for any of it as we provided statutary delcarations. We could go to goal if it turns out that we lied.

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                                      Captain See Sharp wrote:

                                      A hacker is someone who breaks into a computer system over a network. A cracker is someone who breaks into programs and removes the trial limitation or enables cheating in a game that would otherwise be impossible

                                      Looks like this industry is now old enough to have a generation gap

                                      System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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                                      Josh Gray wrote:

                                      Looks like this industry is now old enough to have a generation gap

                                      What do you mean?

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                                        Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                                        it is common enough that it would be impossible to persue all persons who took less than $10,000.

                                        The problem in our case is that the losses are distributed. Couple of $1000 here and there but from different organisations

                                        Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                                        and let the people frauded pay for the rest

                                        In our case we were not responsible for any of it as we provided statutary delcarations. We could go to goal if it turns out that we lied.

                                        System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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                                        Josh Gray wrote:

                                        In our case we were not responsible for any of it as we provided statutary delcarations. We could go to goal if it turns out that we lied.

                                        you will pay for it in time and stress for a very long time. Even if no direct money changes hands, you will be fighting the system to prove your innocence for a very long time.

                                        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                          Josh Gray wrote:

                                          Looks like this industry is now old enough to have a generation gap

                                          What do you mean?

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                                          Captain See Sharp wrote:

                                          What do you mean?

                                          I was talking more about you than to you but anyways...... You definition of those words is different to what someone older who has been in the industry longer would give. Yours is obviously influenced by what you have been exposed to. Remember when the term cracker was coined there was no such thing as downloadable limited game demos.

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