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  • J Judah Gabriel Himango

    Seems something.Id is right. FWIW, FxCop says something.ID (note the all caps) is wrong.

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    Chris Maunder
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    Judah Himango wrote:

    FxCop says something.ID (note the all caps) is wrong.

    Yep, so I use .ID in SQL where FxCop can't give me a hard time, and Id in code. ;)

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      Speaking from an "in the trenches" point of view having never taken a course or read a book on the subject, I name the database and code *exactly* the same, it saves a lot of hasssle. However I always prepend my database tables and column names with a single letter to avoid any possible conflicts with reserved words and make it easier to search and search and replace in my code by distinguising the two. However avoid using the letter "a" because two lowercase a's in a row is actually combined to a different letter in some northern European locales. (that was a frigging hard one to debug when it came across my desk). Oh yeah and I *always* name ID fields as ID, there is no need for the extra text, you're always going to see it prepended by it's table name in any db manipulation app I've ever seen anyway so your just adding confusion and extra typing for no reason.

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      John Cardinal wrote:

      I name the database and code *exactly* the same

      That makes sense technically, but from a readability point of view it's difficult because code allows namespaces, table naming doesn't. So we name our tables ModuleObject and the code

      namespace Module
      {
      class Object
      {
      ...

      cheers, Chris Maunder

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      • C Chris Maunder

        In our datebase we have a table called Object and it has a primary key ObjectID. In our code we have an object called Object and it has an ID field called Id. Part of me wants to stay consistent and have the object in code have an ID field Object.ObjectId, while part of me says this is a tautology. What do you guys use?

        cheers, Chris Maunder

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        We use ID for the PK and a Ref postfix for FK's So Car.id is the PK Car.BrandRef is a FK to the Brand table

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        • C Chris Maunder

          John Cardinal wrote:

          I name the database and code *exactly* the same

          That makes sense technically, but from a readability point of view it's difficult because code allows namespaces, table naming doesn't. So we name our tables ModuleObject and the code

          namespace Module
          {
          class Object
          {
          ...

          cheers, Chris Maunder

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          Hey whatever works for you! :) I need to do a *lot* of dynamic sql in my code so I have a lot of mixed sql and code all over in my business objects layers and I've never found readability a problem but the main thing is to have some sort of standard and stick to it rather than the exact way it's done. Note also that I keep things short because I work in several different db layers and I'm up against a limitation of (IIRC) 30 something characters for FireBird so I'm always using lowest common denominator standards.

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            Well, clearly I'm not actually calling the table and object "Object" :D. Close your eyes and pretend that I wrote "CarefullyAndCleverlyNamedObject" everywhere you read "Object" ;) We stick to Object.ObjectID for the following reason: Object has Object.ObjectID Object.Stuff Object.AnotherObjectID (FK) AnotherObject has AnotherObject.AnotherObjectID AnotherObject.DifferentStuff FK naming is then all nice and neat and obvious.

            cheers, Chris Maunder

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            Leah_Garrett
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            Yeah the best way to solve naming convention issues is to ask the opinons of more developers. ;-) Having had to detangle some odd FK naming I like the consistant PK and FK naming approach. Consistant naming in layers is also very helpful. But consistancy is the key, so if someone is using ID for PK then I will use that. -- Leah

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            • C Chris Maunder

              In our datebase we have a table called Object and it has a primary key ObjectID. In our code we have an object called Object and it has an ID field called Id. Part of me wants to stay consistent and have the object in code have an ID field Object.ObjectId, while part of me says this is a tautology. What do you guys use?

              cheers, Chris Maunder

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              Clickok
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              Welcome to War Database x OOP :laugh: I like of the second approach (Object.ObjectId and NOT Object.Id). If you use Object.ObjectId and to another fields you use the exact naming of table fields, do you will by example, use one List in a ASP.Net GridView directly, and update your database table without need worry about mapping of the field names, and a lot of another advantages what, if you wish I can list to you. :rolleyes:


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                Yeah the best way to solve naming convention issues is to ask the opinons of more developers. ;-) Having had to detangle some odd FK naming I like the consistant PK and FK naming approach. Consistant naming in layers is also very helpful. But consistancy is the key, so if someone is using ID for PK then I will use that. -- Leah

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                Leah_Garrett wrote:

                Yeah the best way to solve naming convention issues is to ask the opinons of more developers

                lol.

                cheers, Chris Maunder

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  You ever tried selling the "we'll use this convention here, and a different convention over there" to Dmitry*? :D * Dmitry is one of the devs working the The Rewrite. He accepts no compromise. He scares us.

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                  Christian Graus
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                  No, I generally try more productive pursuits, such as walking on water and reversing gravity.

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                  • C code frog 0

                    In every table that has a generic auto-increment PK I call the field the same name. I always use ThisTableSucksTheDBAIsOnGlueAndNeedsADrugTest as my primary key.

                    • I guarantee it's unique.
                    • It's certainly meaningful.
                    • It's always right. (Even if I'm the DBA.)
                    • It's very easy to remember.
                    • Nobody ever asks what it is or what it means. They know it's the primary key and it's never up for debate.
                    • What I say is final.
                    • There are no warranties at all express, applied, explicit, implicit or profane.
                    • My naming convention is inviolate handed down from my fathers, father a Jedi Knight for a 1000 generations who was always known as Darth Constraint.

                    Questions? Comments? Good!:laugh: For the record: This is post 4,918 :cool:

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                    code-frog wrote:

                    In every table that has a generic auto-increment PK I call the field the same name. I always use ThisTableSucksTheDBAIsOn_Glue_AndNeedsADrugTest as my primary key. * I guarantee it's unique. * It's certainly meaningful. * It's always right. (Even if I'm the DBA.) * It's very easy to remember. * Nobody ever asks what it is or what it means. They know it's the primary key and it's never up for debate. * What I say is final. * There are no warranties at all express, applied, explicit, implicit or profane. * My naming convention is inviolate handed down from my fathers, father a Jedi Knight for a 1000 generations who was always known as Darth Constraint. Questions? Comments? Good!:laugh: For the record: This is post 4,918 :cool:

                    :laugh::laugh::laugh: Glue? ouch! bad stuff... On a serious note, it's worse than any kind of muscle relaxant...i know the effects from making the mistake of working with several types the solvent-based chemicals indoors(all at different times). Most of that stuff affects the nervous system, sort of like a shock that comes in one wave and dislodges all emotions, as well as relaxing the muscles at the same time. The effect that causes the loss of muscle tone is actually pretty well documented. Other side effects are pretty product-specific, like some permanent markers (i remember they had the word "king" on the package as a part of the brand name, but i'm not sure if i remember it right) cause shortness of breath, and over a period of several days after the exposure lungs will respond and cause further breathing problems... Roswell

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      In our datebase we have a table called Object and it has a primary key ObjectID. In our code we have an object called Object and it has an ID field called Id. Part of me wants to stay consistent and have the object in code have an ID field Object.ObjectId, while part of me says this is a tautology. What do you guys use?

                      cheers, Chris Maunder

                      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                      Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                      I used to use ID however consistency won over and I now use Id. database field: customer_id database table: customer member: customerId; property: CustomerId; Another solution I use often is to provide an interface for objects from the db. In your case all objects would have the following interface: Int64? Id{get;set;} Of course this would not match the db. The reason the db needs the full prefix in the case of id columns is because of joins. You don't want to have to alias every join!


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                        code-frog wrote:

                        In every table that has a generic auto-increment PK I call the field the same name. I always use ThisTableSucksTheDBAIsOn_Glue_AndNeedsADrugTest as my primary key. * I guarantee it's unique. * It's certainly meaningful. * It's always right. (Even if I'm the DBA.) * It's very easy to remember. * Nobody ever asks what it is or what it means. They know it's the primary key and it's never up for debate. * What I say is final. * There are no warranties at all express, applied, explicit, implicit or profane. * My naming convention is inviolate handed down from my fathers, father a Jedi Knight for a 1000 generations who was always known as Darth Constraint. Questions? Comments? Good!:laugh: For the record: This is post 4,918 :cool:

                        :laugh::laugh::laugh: Glue? ouch! bad stuff... On a serious note, it's worse than any kind of muscle relaxant...i know the effects from making the mistake of working with several types the solvent-based chemicals indoors(all at different times). Most of that stuff affects the nervous system, sort of like a shock that comes in one wave and dislodges all emotions, as well as relaxing the muscles at the same time. The effect that causes the loss of muscle tone is actually pretty well documented. Other side effects are pretty product-specific, like some permanent markers (i remember they had the word "king" on the package as a part of the brand name, but i'm not sure if i remember it right) cause shortness of breath, and over a period of several days after the exposure lungs will respond and cause further breathing problems... Roswell

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                        RoswellNX wrote:

                        i remember they had the word "king" on the package as a part of the brand name

                        Eh, those stink. The ones that smell like banana mash are much nicer.

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          In our datebase we have a table called Object and it has a primary key ObjectID. In our code we have an object called Object and it has an ID field called Id. Part of me wants to stay consistent and have the object in code have an ID field Object.ObjectId, while part of me says this is a tautology. What do you guys use?

                          cheers, Chris Maunder

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                          PIEBALDconsult
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                          I got to the point where I named a key StinkinKey, but now I tend to use KeyId.

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                            In every table that has a generic auto-increment PK I call the field the same name. I always use ThisTableSucksTheDBAIsOnGlueAndNeedsADrugTest as my primary key.

                            • I guarantee it's unique.
                            • It's certainly meaningful.
                            • It's always right. (Even if I'm the DBA.)
                            • It's very easy to remember.
                            • Nobody ever asks what it is or what it means. They know it's the primary key and it's never up for debate.
                            • What I say is final.
                            • There are no warranties at all express, applied, explicit, implicit or profane.
                            • My naming convention is inviolate handed down from my fathers, father a Jedi Knight for a 1000 generations who was always known as Darth Constraint.

                            Questions? Comments? Good!:laugh: For the record: This is post 4,918 :cool:

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                              Judah Himango wrote:

                              FxCop says something.ID (note the all caps) is wrong.

                              Yep, so I use .ID in SQL where FxCop can't give me a hard time, and Id in code. ;)

                              cheers, Chris Maunder

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                              Chris Maunder wrote:

                              Id in code

                              Blech. For some reason, I've always disliked 'Id' and 'id'; it's supposed to be 'ID', dammit. Sorry. I just finished doing my taxes X|. I'm feeling all middle-aged and irascible :mad:.


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                                code-frog wrote:

                                In every table that has a generic auto-increment PK I call the field the same name. I always use ThisTableSucksTheDBAIsOn_Glue_AndNeedsADrugTest as my primary key. * I guarantee it's unique. * It's certainly meaningful. * It's always right. (Even if I'm the DBA.) * It's very easy to remember. * Nobody ever asks what it is or what it means. They know it's the primary key and it's never up for debate. * What I say is final. * There are no warranties at all express, applied, explicit, implicit or profane. * My naming convention is inviolate handed down from my fathers, father a Jedi Knight for a 1000 generations who was always known as Darth Constraint. Questions? Comments? Good!:laugh: For the record: This is post 4,918 :cool:

                                :laugh::laugh::laugh: Glue? ouch! bad stuff... On a serious note, it's worse than any kind of muscle relaxant...i know the effects from making the mistake of working with several types the solvent-based chemicals indoors(all at different times). Most of that stuff affects the nervous system, sort of like a shock that comes in one wave and dislodges all emotions, as well as relaxing the muscles at the same time. The effect that causes the loss of muscle tone is actually pretty well documented. Other side effects are pretty product-specific, like some permanent markers (i remember they had the word "king" on the package as a part of the brand name, but i'm not sure if i remember it right) cause shortness of breath, and over a period of several days after the exposure lungs will respond and cause further breathing problems... Roswell

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                                A friend of mine (M.S. in Mathematics) paid for an entire year of grad school in two weeks. His job to put on this chemical suit and tear down an old chemistry solvent lab. He said it was horrible. The stench came through the suit at times. They had to stop every hour or so and drink a liter of water. (Texas in the summer.) Then suit back up and go back at it. He said the glue and solvents were the worst.:omg:

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                                  I think I just need to work less. Did you know I'm planning to take over the universe.:-D Rumor has it that you can do it with Linux.:rolleyes::doh:

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                                    I think I just need to work less. Did you know I'm planning to take over the universe.:-D Rumor has it that you can do it with Linux.:rolleyes::doh:

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                                    code-frog wrote:

                                    Rumor has it that you can do it with Linux

                                    That's related to that whole world-domination-by-the-Teletubbies thing, isn't it?


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                                      code-frog wrote:

                                      Rumor has it that you can do it with Linux

                                      That's related to that whole world-domination-by-the-Teletubbies thing, isn't it?


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                                      I think that's what happened to that one group in Waco who tried it with a Mac.:rolleyes:

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                                        A friend of mine (M.S. in Mathematics) paid for an entire year of grad school in two weeks. His job to put on this chemical suit and tear down an old chemistry solvent lab. He said it was horrible. The stench came through the suit at times. They had to stop every hour or so and drink a liter of water. (Texas in the summer.) Then suit back up and go back at it. He said the glue and solvents were the worst.:omg:

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                                        code-frog wrote:

                                        He said it was horrible. The stench came through the suit at times. They had to stop every hour or so and drink a liter of water. (Texas in the summer.) Then suit back up and go back at it. He said the glue and solvents were the worst.:omg:

                                        Well, i'd gladly take the job if it weren't just smells and hot weather. I'm actually pretty immune to chemical smells, but it's a different story with the effects the fumes themselves have on me. I've become almost allergic to a lot of solvents now, since i wasn't careful working with them at first. Like I can't tolerate nail polish because of the acetone. About the same with paint thinner... Roswell

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                                        • C Chris Maunder

                                          In our datebase we have a table called Object and it has a primary key ObjectID. In our code we have an object called Object and it has an ID field called Id. Part of me wants to stay consistent and have the object in code have an ID field Object.ObjectId, while part of me says this is a tautology. What do you guys use?

                                          cheers, Chris Maunder

                                          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                          Howard Richards
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                                          Since you asked.. my approach is usually KISS and try not to mangle stuff for the sake of mangling it unless there is a real benefit. I always name tables as plurals. "Customers" contains customers, not 'a single customer' - that's a single ROW of the table. So in your case my table is called "Objects", and PK is ObjectID as in your example. The data layer generates code for classes but converts the plurals to singulars, so the class is called "Object" but the field is still called "ObjectID", and there is a collection class which is called "ObjectCollection", which represents the table. I guess Object.ObjectID is a tautology but this is code we're writing, not English so it doesn't matter. It makes for a few more keystrokes but it keeps things clearer on what you're referring to.. This link http://vyaskn.tripod.com/object_naming.htm[^] was one I looked at when designing my current DB. I avoided using the underscore from their approach as this causes the CLR problems as it's not CLS compliant for names. I do however try to prefix all tables with a similar name to keep them together, e.g. Customers, CustomerServices, CustomerOrders etc.

                                          'Howard

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